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This is so true. I meet atleast 3-5 people that act like this on the ladder every day. This is often time how the situation unfolds:
I beat the living snot out of someone who clearly doesn't know basic timings. They then go on to whine about how protoss are imba and there is no counter in the game for what I just did. I often times take the nice guy approach and tell them exactly how to play against my style. Even though I just gave away valuable information about my gameplay they still flame me hardcore and refuse to acknowlege that I might have more experience than them. Often time it ends with me explaining that I have played 3 times as many games as them and my rating with random is 300 points higher than their rating with a main race. does that make them stop flamin? Hell no.
People in general need to stop whining so god damn much in game. it's fine if you nerd rage once in a while but don't argue when someone is nice and gives constructive critisism.
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This should be on the 'do you accept' page when you sign up. Thank you for telling it how it is mate.
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Well spoken. Couldn't agree more. also like the idea of submission of reply along with posting.
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A lot of it has to do with the fact that SC2 got mainstream attention, bringing a lot of mainstream people who have no idea about the game here, before, it was just people who were really interested in the scene and would do a lot to support it, now, everyone's here pretty much. Good points on the difference between the bw group and the sc2 group, with the sc2 group acting like kids, not acknowledging their mistakes.
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On October 25 2010 04:19 mahnini wrote:
For many of us, BW taught us a stern lesson in humility. No matter smart you were, someone was smarter; no matter how fast you were, someone was faster; no matter how well you played, someone played better. It was just the natural order of things. People knew that no matter how hard they were trying, someone out there in that little-big community of ours, someone was trying harder. People understood that improvement in BW was a self-reflective process. You had to find it in yourself to win, you had to understand that the reason you lost is because you made mistakes and to get better you had to come to terms with them. It wasn't about what your opponent did right, it was about what you did wrong.
This is the game we play. Thank you.
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Well pointed out mahnini, TL has changed over the last few years sure but when I check the forums these days. All the cleverly written articles about BW and progaming that actually made you think and reflect and actual discussions above an immature teenage level are gone.
There's just to much crying and complaining about BW & SC2, it's gotten really pointless to keep checking the site when it no longer is interesting, in fact the only section I bother reading is general and News. 
I think I've grown out of this site and lost interest in the games.
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what really amazes me about all of this racial imbalance crap is that it doesnt matter what blizzard does to balance the game, some crazy guy with this crazy but successfull idea will apparently throw the whole game into whack with his strategic genius and it will spread throughout the gaming discourse. you see it in the magic box tactic, mass reapers, ect ect ect. You cant nerf human inventiveness *except for perhaps with use of a screwdriver* so people should always try to invest in that rather than whine.
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I totally agree, I don't read the strategy boards because so much information is just wrong or misleading. It's almost always better just to fine pro replays and understand what they're doing instead.
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On October 27 2010 21:47 Throllax wrote:
This should be on the 'do you accept' page when you sign up. Thank you for telling it how it is mate.
seconded
is this feasible?
i understand you have the basic rules but that doesn't prevent QQ/whine/god-complex
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I endorse this message. So that's why they gave you the llama hammer mahnini <3
Should start using it like it's Thor's Hammer to get rid of all the filth.
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This is a great post, and should definitely be required reading.
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Great, great post. While I don't think it's going to improve any time soon, I hope at least just a couple of guys posting in the SC2 strat forum will think twice before hitting the "Post" button after reading this.
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I think many of the players whining about inbalance are players who have not played bw, instead played games like wow where QQ about inbalance is common. Loved the post and all players posting should reconsider after reading this
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u go girl, exactly what i hate about the section and a lot of people in general. its always easier to blame balance before yourself; if you actually play a game and dont make major mistakes or a bunch of little ones then there might be problems otherwise shhhhhh
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I'm glad this was posted. although i don't post very often, i check the TL forums about 20 times a day and it just gets old when you see the same posts about racial imba. Every time i post i will keep this OP in mind.
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So true.. I have new-found respect for TL! Some of the recent threads/posts started to remind me of bnet forums and that was scary. I only started posting after sc2 came out, but i've been reading the forums for allmost 3 years, and some things deffinetly changed.
I think mods really shoud be more strict with the bans, but that's just me..
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Good post - I think everyone fairly reasonable would agree.
With that said I really know how frustrating it can be to go on a losing streak. Even though you feel that you try hard you just seem to get roflstomped every time. And since its a new game.... well why not blame the game insted of the player!
Definetly a good point that we should try to take a breather and analyse our flaws insted of just raging over one's own insuffiency
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I agree, although the recent roach buff was totally helpful. 
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Usually longer posts are the better ones since they got more details. Why not introduce longer posts as a requirement?
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This should be required reading for anyone posting in the SC2 strat section.
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