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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 07 2014 15:37 GMT
#441
On July 06 2014 10:34 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 03:38 AgentW wrote:
All of these tweets and reports about the Big Three leaving today, I don't know what to believe anymore. I've been a staunch proponent of "they're not going anywhere" but I'm beginning to doubt that position. Anyone else?

At this point about both the big 3 and Melo every position from all definitely staying to all leaving have been made so it's just a wait and see. If both Bosh and LBJ want max money though I could see them splitting up. I think Wade'll stay though.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 05:17 cLutZ wrote:
Well its fine for them, but being above the salary floor is irrelevant. If you are below it you literally just take the $10million or whatever and split it up among your players Pro Rata. If you value cap space over competitiveness there is no reason to worry about it.

This is true but since it makes no difference financially why not approach teams looking to clear cap space like Houston and offering to take shitty contracts for picks? If you're spending the money somehow anyway it's better to get some asset, even if it's just a 2nd round pick, than to get nothing. So if they trade and get Lin for a pick then it's worth it for them.


Apparently Philly is trying to trade 1-2 draft picks for Amare Stoudemire and Iman Shumpert, for exactly this reason. They'd get Shumpert, decent 2 (ultimately should be a really strong bench player), strong defender + eat Amare's contract for a year. Also, I feel like Amare had something of a resurgence last year, he might end up being a decent player still
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 07 2014 15:40 GMT
#442
On July 07 2014 23:41 Ace wrote:
Kind of would be excited with Lebron to Cleveland and Bosh to Houston. Wade gets to play with K-Love next year?!?!?!?!?!


No way Kevin Love is going to Miami. He'll go to LA with Carmelo and Kobe, which is totally going to happen.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if Bosh went to Houston and LeBron back to Cleveland though. I'm not a huge fan of these moves though, primarily because it just makes the West stronger (Bosh / Carmelo move west) and the East significantly weaker. As much as it would be nice, I don't think anybody wants to watch the Spurs/Houston/OKC decimate the Raptors or Wizards in the finals.

The east will be so wide open if this happens... Chicago, Washington, Toronto, Indiana, Cleveland all will have a shot at making the finals.

I'm more intrigued about where Deng and Lance Stephenson end up... they seem to be the biggest wild cards right now. I think we can be fairly certain that it'll end up something like Carmelo-LA, Bosh-Houston, LeBron-Cleveland, Wade-Miami .. bleh.
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Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
July 07 2014 15:44 GMT
#443
On July 08 2014 00:23 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2014 00:21 Haiq343 wrote:
On July 07 2014 23:41 Ace wrote:
Kind of would be excited with Lebron to Cleveland and Bosh to Houston. Wade gets to play with K-Love next year?!?!?!?!?!

If I had money I would bet the shit out of Lebron not going back to Cleveland, can't believe that's even a rumor.


i think it's either heat or cavs, don't think he'd go anywhere else. probably 80.20 heat?

The only thing that Cleveland has going for it is that it's 'home'. Oth, you have Gilbert, Irving/waiters, management track record, big men?, and a young team that couldn't even make the playoffs in last year's East. I just can't understand why Lebron, who reportedly is quite happy with his family life in Miami, would uproot his kids to Cleveland. So he can do a favor to the owner who stabbed him in the back in the most public way? He's too competitive for that, if he leaves Miami it'd be because he thinks he has a better chance of winning somewhere else. And maybe that he's still pissed that the Heat amnestied Miller to save a couple bucks after Lebron left millions on the table to help them build a better team.

I don't see it as anything more substantial than sports writers having nothing worthwhile to report while Lebron is on vacation.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
July 07 2014 15:49 GMT
#444
These should be some exciting/interesting days coming up!
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
July 07 2014 15:50 GMT
#445
And Bosh to Houston would be awesome for their team.

Morey is so great, it's just too bad he has to rely on boneheads Dwight and Harden to lead them on the court!
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 07 2014 16:03 GMT
#446
other than wiggins/irving, cleveland has nothing really. which is sad because they've drafted so high so many times. cleveland should be lebron's last choice unless bosh leaves miami
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 07 2014 16:05 GMT
#447
On July 08 2014 00:50 MassHysteria wrote:
And Bosh to Houston would be awesome for their team.

Morey is so great, it's just too bad he has to rely on boneheads Dwight and Harden to lead them on the court!


how can you call him great when you call the 2 players that he got boneheads?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 07 2014 16:21 GMT
#448
I don't get why there are even Cleveland rumors about Lebron. His supporting cast would be infinitely worse than what he had in Miami. When Lebron left the first time, Gilbert being the idiot he is wrote that open letter that should have burned any bridges he had left. I know basketball is a business, but nothing about this rumor makes any sense. I'd be less surprised if Lebron's camp publicly announced that they're shunning anything CLE has to say 100%.

And also not that SAS doesn't have stars, but the past year should've been a reminder once again that drafting smart and signing good role players with important skillsets is the way to long-term success, and not stacking 10mil contracts on top of 10mil contracts.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 07 2014 16:53 GMT
#449
I really agree with Zulu. With Gilbert you have arguably the quiet non Sterling owner in the league, what is the appeal?
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
July 07 2014 17:47 GMT
#450
might just be something that is seen as more of a big deal outside of the people involved. gilbert is pretty good at building fan loyalty so the letter is a P.R. stunt mebbe. lebron is genuinely attached to cleveland.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
July 07 2014 18:55 GMT
#451
Lebron going to CLE will show that winning championships is not his priority, and that he cares more about how he will be viewed by his home state and fixing the mess he made with the Decision. There's no way that he could look at the Cavs organization and see it as a promising destination in terms of management competency and readiness to compete for a championship. He'd have to be sold on the idea that taking on a huge burden of carrying the Cavs through a rebuild and the dubious possibility of winning CLE a championship would mean more than winning as many rings as possible.
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 07 2014 19:26 GMT
#452
On July 08 2014 03:55 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Lebron going to CLE will show that winning championships is not his priority, and that he cares more about how he will be viewed by his home state and fixing the mess he made with the Decision. There's no way that he could look at the Cavs organization and see it as a promising destination in terms of management competency and readiness to compete for a championship. He'd have to be sold on the idea that taking on a huge burden of carrying the Cavs through a rebuild and the dubious possibility of winning CLE a championship would mean more than winning as many rings as possible.


it is conceivable that everyone worthwhile on the heat dont come back (bosh says fuck it im going to houston, allen retires, etc), that would make cleveland a more attractive destination for lebron. but even so he would have better options, unless he really really wants a max from someone.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 07 2014 19:46 GMT
#453
I think Bosh and Lebron are gone. McRoberts and Granger? I'd leave.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
July 07 2014 20:01 GMT
#454
Going to Cleveland is pretty brave though. Quite a few unproven players who will have to contribute and a new HC, no matter what his reputation outside of the NBA may be.
I wonder how much of Lebrons decision is going to be based on perception that would stop him from joining a third team in his career. 2 year deal with player options incoming ?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 07 2014 20:16 GMT
#455
On July 08 2014 00:37 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 10:34 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 06 2014 03:38 AgentW wrote:
All of these tweets and reports about the Big Three leaving today, I don't know what to believe anymore. I've been a staunch proponent of "they're not going anywhere" but I'm beginning to doubt that position. Anyone else?

At this point about both the big 3 and Melo every position from all definitely staying to all leaving have been made so it's just a wait and see. If both Bosh and LBJ want max money though I could see them splitting up. I think Wade'll stay though.

On July 06 2014 05:17 cLutZ wrote:
Well its fine for them, but being above the salary floor is irrelevant. If you are below it you literally just take the $10million or whatever and split it up among your players Pro Rata. If you value cap space over competitiveness there is no reason to worry about it.

This is true but since it makes no difference financially why not approach teams looking to clear cap space like Houston and offering to take shitty contracts for picks? If you're spending the money somehow anyway it's better to get some asset, even if it's just a 2nd round pick, than to get nothing. So if they trade and get Lin for a pick then it's worth it for them.


Apparently Philly is trying to trade 1-2 draft picks for Amare Stoudemire and Iman Shumpert, for exactly this reason. They'd get Shumpert, decent 2 (ultimately should be a really strong bench player), strong defender + eat Amare's contract for a year. Also, I feel like Amare had something of a resurgence last year, he might end up being a decent player still

the Knicks have picks left to give up?

On July 08 2014 01:03 zev318 wrote:
other than wiggins/irving, cleveland has nothing really. which is sad because they've drafted so high so many times. cleveland should be lebron's last choice unless bosh leaves miami

I mean all their young players still have a lot of potential to be great. Who knows, in a couple years we could view their roster as stacked. Ofc as others have said if Lebron ends up in Cleveland it won't be because they offer the best opportunity of winning a ring but I think that's obvious to everyone involved.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 07 2014 20:33 GMT
#456
I think the real shocker is what will happen when casual fans see Kyrie on prime time. So many assumptions will be crushed.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
July 07 2014 20:37 GMT
#457
On July 08 2014 05:33 Ace wrote:
I think the real shocker is what will happen when casual fans see Kyrie on prime time. So many assumptions will be crushed.


Are you shittalking the 2014 All Star game MVP?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 07 2014 20:40 GMT
#458
He isn't as good as public perception hypes him up to be. He still needs some time to reach star status.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
July 07 2014 20:46 GMT
#459
Which is exactly what I was alluding to lol. He is also imitating 2014 Wade on D quite often.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 07 2014 21:07 GMT
#460
Wait, wouldn't a Cavaliers team of Lebron and young guys be pretty good? Is there any reason that team couldn't make the Finals out of the East? It wouldn't be as strong a team as last years' Heat, but it'd still have Lebron James.

I think it'd be a better team than any of his former Cavalier teams. I mean, Kyrie is better than Mo Williams, Tristian Thompson is (way?) worse than prime Varajeo but he's passable, Dion=Larry Hughes?? Huh? Huh? And that not even counting Anthony Bennett and Andrew Wiggins. It'd be a cool team.
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