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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 05 2014 13:55 GMT
#401
On July 05 2014 13:39 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2014 12:23 AgentW wrote:
Another point with the Avery deal (and others, as well as some new wave NFL contracts): the cap's going to go up, so if you can take a chance on a guy for what seems like too much now, it might be a downright steal with that extra year. At least they didn't give him a fifth, though would've been lunacy.

Who knows though, if he becomes a liability/always hurt, he's a useful salary offset piece, just like Ben Gordon is with his new deal.

Pistons fans have been using this with the Meeks deal, and i think it's poor rationalizing.

Well, Meeks has been around a bit longer and looked like a career journeyman until the past year and a half or so. He's also three years older, and played multiple years in college, so we think we know what he is at this point. With Bradley, he was a one and done and should still be getting better. I guess the money's similar, but Meeks has that key no fourth year. I kind of liked his deal as well: a potentially useful player at what should be a lower relative cost in the future that could become a nice offsetting contract in a trade.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 05 2014 16:57 GMT
#402
On July 05 2014 15:38 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2014 12:22 seiferoth10 wrote:
Didn't we say the same thing last year about Byron Mullens?


They have the rich man's Byron Mullens now.

Just what the Clips needed--another big to hang out at the three point line and not play D.

That should really fix their bench issues.


You want a big man out there for the Clips. Hawes is also a very nice passer from the high post. You could see some cool high-low stuff with Blake.

Byron Mullens made the vets minimum, which is basically what he's worth. What he wasn't worth was the roster spot he took.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 05 2014 18:14 GMT
#403
I guess that one game where Lin made a bunch of 3s made philly really want his 15mil salary
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 05 2014 18:38 GMT
#404
All of these tweets and reports about the Big Three leaving today, I don't know what to believe anymore. I've been a staunch proponent of "they're not going anywhere" but I'm beginning to doubt that position. Anyone else?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
July 05 2014 18:58 GMT
#405
On July 06 2014 03:14 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I guess that one game where Lin made a bunch of 3s made philly really want his 15mil salary

I mean it's not like Hinkie is trading for Lin. He's willing to take Lin if Houston includes enough goodies, and it's not like Lin is going to stop Tankapalooza 2015 either.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 05 2014 19:03 GMT
#406
Keeps them over the salary floor with a guy who's making more than he's probably worth.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
July 05 2014 19:10 GMT
#407
Stay over salary floor, pay homage to your sensei, put butts in seats for what will probably be a shitty team, and get a pick out of it.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 05 2014 20:17 GMT
#408
Well its fine for them, but being above the salary floor is irrelevant. If you are below it you literally just take the $10million or whatever and split it up among your players Pro Rata. If you value cap space over competitiveness there is no reason to worry about it.
Freeeeeeedom
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
July 05 2014 23:29 GMT
#409
Pierre Jackson's achilles blew up in the first summer league game. :/ Apparently the refs let play continue for 3 possessions before calling time, with him on the floor.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 06 2014 01:34 GMT
#410
On July 06 2014 03:38 AgentW wrote:
All of these tweets and reports about the Big Three leaving today, I don't know what to believe anymore. I've been a staunch proponent of "they're not going anywhere" but I'm beginning to doubt that position. Anyone else?

At this point about both the big 3 and Melo every position from all definitely staying to all leaving have been made so it's just a wait and see. If both Bosh and LBJ want max money though I could see them splitting up. I think Wade'll stay though.

On July 06 2014 05:17 cLutZ wrote:
Well its fine for them, but being above the salary floor is irrelevant. If you are below it you literally just take the $10million or whatever and split it up among your players Pro Rata. If you value cap space over competitiveness there is no reason to worry about it.

This is true but since it makes no difference financially why not approach teams looking to clear cap space like Houston and offering to take shitty contracts for picks? If you're spending the money somehow anyway it's better to get some asset, even if it's just a 2nd round pick, than to get nothing. So if they trade and get Lin for a pick then it's worth it for them.
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
July 06 2014 01:35 GMT
#411
On July 06 2014 08:29 Jibba wrote:
Pierre Jackson's achilles blew up in the first summer league game. :/ Apparently the refs let play continue for 3 possessions before calling time, with him on the floor.

Gah that sucks. Achilles injuries have an awful rehab even for non-athletes.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 06 2014 02:17 GMT
#412
On July 06 2014 10:34 DystopiaX wrote:

This is true but since it makes no difference financially why not approach teams looking to clear cap space like Houston and offering to take shitty contracts for picks? If you're spending the money somehow anyway it's better to get some asset, even if it's just a 2nd round pick, than to get nothing. So if they trade and get Lin for a pick then it's worth it for them.


I totally agree. This is actually what Houston did a few years ago: took some shitty contracts for 1st round picks that they eventually turned into Harden.
Freeeeeeedom
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13297 Posts
July 06 2014 09:21 GMT
#413
On July 06 2014 01:57 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2014 15:38 RowdierBob wrote:
On July 05 2014 12:22 seiferoth10 wrote:
Didn't we say the same thing last year about Byron Mullens?


They have the rich man's Byron Mullens now.

Just what the Clips needed--another big to hang out at the three point line and not play D.

That should really fix their bench issues.


You want a big man out there for the Clips. Hawes is also a very nice passer from the high post. You could see some cool high-low stuff with Blake.

Byron Mullens made the vets minimum, which is basically what he's worth. What he wasn't worth was the roster spot he took.


I think we had a similar argument last year when you added Redick and Dudley
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 06 2014 18:36 GMT
#414
On July 06 2014 18:21 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 01:57 slyboogie wrote:
On July 05 2014 15:38 RowdierBob wrote:
On July 05 2014 12:22 seiferoth10 wrote:
Didn't we say the same thing last year about Byron Mullens?


They have the rich man's Byron Mullens now.

Just what the Clips needed--another big to hang out at the three point line and not play D.

That should really fix their bench issues.


You want a big man out there for the Clips. Hawes is also a very nice passer from the high post. You could see some cool high-low stuff with Blake.

Byron Mullens made the vets minimum, which is basically what he's worth. What he wasn't worth was the roster spot he took.


I think we had a similar argument last year when you added Redick and Dudley


I don't think so, but I liked the trade at the time. I still like the trade, Reddick is better for the team than Bledsoe, even if Bledsoe is the better player. It's not like we could afford to extend him anyways.

Had no idea Jared Dudley would go from penciled in starter to completely unplayable. That was shocking.

Anyways, this was a very good signing. Frankly, I don't think most people really watching Byron Mullens play basketball, not that I'd blame them. They have some kind of a concept of a tall white shooter. But he was really really bad. Spencer Hawes is way better. Except for being tall and white, and the purported ability to shoot, they're not comparable.

It's like comparing Travis Outlaw to Jeff Green. One wouldn't get minutes on a team that makes the playoffs, one might contribute because of of them is actually an NBA player at this point.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
July 06 2014 23:23 GMT
#415
Spurs resign Diaw and Mills. Awwww yeeeeeaaaa
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
July 07 2014 00:15 GMT
#416
On July 07 2014 08:23 darthfoley wrote:
Spurs resign Diaw and Mills. Awwww yeeeeeaaaa


Shit, sniped.

AWWWWWWWWWWW YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Now just get Pau and #DriveForSix #B2B
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 07 2014 03:06 GMT
#417
I'm not sure I really want Pau. What lineups would he be in? Is he playing with Splitter for the 18 minutes Timmy is on the bench? I think I'd rather have Splitter or Diaw with Timmy than Pau.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
July 07 2014 03:15 GMT
#418
Jordan Farmar to the Clippers.... the pain of betrayal stings. Why Farmar? Why?! We would've paid you!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 07 2014 03:31 GMT
#419
On July 07 2014 12:06 Jerubaal wrote:
I'm not sure I really want Pau. What lineups would he be in? Is he playing with Splitter for the 18 minutes Timmy is on the bench? I think I'd rather have Splitter or Diaw with Timmy than Pau.

If you get Pau though Timmy only has to play 10 minutes a game in the regular season!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 07 2014 03:36 GMT
#420
Bosh to Houston would make them the #1 contender next year
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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