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Apparently some people are dumb enough to STILL be asking for it, so let's make things clear:

Do NOT ask for re-streams, and do NOT post re-streams.

Do not come here and muddle the thread by bitching about PPV.
Spaceneil8
Profile Joined February 2011
United States317 Posts
February 26 2012 09:18 GMT
#4781
Ret has been playing out of his mind though. He took down MVP. That is not an easy feat.

I do think DRG might take it all.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 26 2012 09:18 GMT
#4782
What? I thought there was a general consensus that the extended series rule was stupid. Why hasn't MLG gotten rid of it?
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
February 26 2012 09:19 GMT
#4783
Gotta love seeing HuK, Naniwa and hayprO doing well :D

haters gonna hate~
Revolutionist fan
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 26 2012 09:21 GMT
#4784
How sick would that be if DRG won MLG and GSL back to back. He deserves it honestly.
DoctorFunk
Profile Joined September 2011
160 Posts
February 26 2012 09:36 GMT
#4785
On February 26 2012 16:55 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 16:48 charcute wrote:
On February 26 2012 16:43 Geo.Rion wrote:
Was there any statement about how many viwers do they have with the new system?

On February 26 2012 16:41 charcute wrote:
People talking about coin flip in pvp just doesn't understand the game. "I can't understand something, it's must be cause of luck"

i dont have a clue about PvP but pretty much every progmaer interview i read about PvP said it s luckbased and gimmicke.



Well then they will talk about luck in any match up... mirror match up isn't more luck based than tvp or tvz

Yes it is. There is no defenders advantage in PvP and you have limited information/scouting to make your choice and you have to make a choice on BO, like within 2-3 min. Scout the right place you win or Guess right you win. Scout wrong place or guess wring you lose. SC2 is a game of imperfect info the first few minutes and Protoss has no effective defenders advantage to make error like spines or bunkers.

Give protoss cannons after GW and every PVP would be macro.

sentries and a ramp are a defenders advantage. To say that there is no defenders advantage is an ignorant hyperbole. There IS a defenders advantage, it's just not as significant as other matchups and is dependent on gas and the maps architecture. Its a bit more volatile, but in that way, a bit more interesting.
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
February 26 2012 09:36 GMT
#4786
too bad i cant watch the finals
SCPhineas
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 09:45:38
February 26 2012 09:43 GMT
#4787
I'm with SeaSwift on that one, eventhough he had some very skilled players against him, he still has a lot to prove the last day.

I'm happy to see Ret winning from MVP, how did he hold up against DRG? I know he lost, but were the games close?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 26 2012 09:46 GMT
#4788
I wonder whether a high finish in this tournament could earn Huk a Code S seed, even though he recently fell out of it.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
February 26 2012 09:51 GMT
#4789
On February 26 2012 18:46 JustPassingBy wrote:
I wonder whether a high finish in this tournament could earn Huk a Code S seed, even though he recently fell out of it.


Depends how high, I think, and how good his play is to get there.

As of now I don't think he's ready for Code S. He needs to get his shit together and refine all his builds a ton.
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 09:54:35
February 26 2012 09:54 GMT
#4790
On February 26 2012 18:43 SCPhineas wrote:
I'm with SeaSwift on that one, eventhough he had some very skilled players against him, he still has a lot to prove the last day.

I'm happy to see Ret winning from MVP, how did he hold up against DRG? I know he lost, but were the games close?

Not particularly, but they were also short. First game DRG 10-pool spinecrawler + drone rushed and killed Ret's hatch-first. Second game DRG opened 10-pool speed against 14gas/14pool. Ret held off the ling attack fine at first, but then he expanded and moved his lings into the middle of the map. With the earlier speed, DRG was able to kill all of Ret's lings and then finish him off.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
February 26 2012 09:55 GMT
#4791
On February 26 2012 18:46 JustPassingBy wrote:
I wonder whether a high finish in this tournament could earn Huk a Code S seed, even though he recently fell out of it.


Considering the easy road he's had so far and the fact that there's more deserving players out there i'd say his chances are slim. It's up to GOM though, and they've shown that they want to seed popular players before...
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
February 26 2012 09:57 GMT
#4792
lol seems like nestea will never beat naniwa at this rate.
I think my storybook killed nestea.
XD
moo...for DRG
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
February 26 2012 10:10 GMT
#4793
On February 26 2012 17:07 enecateReAP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 16:57 twndomn wrote:
Top 8 of MLG = 1 Canadian, 1 Swedish, and 6 Koreans

South of Canadian borders for rest of pan America has no SC talent.


There's so much idiocy in this post I genuinely don't know how to respond... x.X;


there's so much anger in your post, I cannot fathom how you try to deny the truth.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
February 26 2012 10:11 GMT
#4794
On February 26 2012 16:58 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 16:57 twndomn wrote:
Top 8 of MLG = 1 Canadian, 1 Swedish, and 6 Koreans

South of Canadian borders for rest of pan America has no SC talent.


I don't know, Stephano's pretty good.


did you take geography class? pan America does not include France. Stephano is from Europe, which is not part of pan America, in case you forget where they are.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
February 26 2012 10:13 GMT
#4795
On February 26 2012 18:14 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 18:10 SupLilSon wrote:
On February 26 2012 17:39 GoSuChicken wrote:
On February 26 2012 17:11 dormer wrote:
On February 26 2012 16:58 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
On February 26 2012 16:57 twndomn wrote:
Top 8 of MLG = 1 Canadian, 1 Swedish, and 6 Koreans

South of Canadian borders for rest of pan America has no SC talent.


I don't know, Stephano's pretty good.


1) Huk apparently has dual citizenship in the US and Canada and lived in both growing up (according to his bio on TLPro which is now gone, so if that's wrong feel free to link to a current, correct source).
2) Stephano is from France, which isn't part of the Americas.

I thought this was a joke?
Or do people really think that Stephano is from USA?


People need to stop using that "joke"... if it can be called that. Talk about beating a dead horse..

Also, nice to see that HuK's hard work in Korea is paying off in some degree of consistency against the best.


"The best"? You mean Minigun, Socke, Ret and one PvP series vs Oz?

HuK got the jammiest route to the Winner's Bracket finals imaginable.


yeah, compared with MKP's it is insane, such horribly unfair brackets
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 10:17:34
February 26 2012 10:14 GMT
#4796
On February 26 2012 18:55 karpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 18:46 JustPassingBy wrote:
I wonder whether a high finish in this tournament could earn Huk a Code S seed, even though he recently fell out of it.


Considering the easy road he's had so far and the fact that there's more deserving players out there i'd say his chances are slim. It's up to GOM though, and they've shown that they want to seed popular players before...


the seeding is handed out based on tournaments result, so I'd expect the highes non Code-S finish of the MLG Winter Arena to get one (whether that is Huk or Violet remains to be seen), assuming he finishes high enough ofc.
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
February 26 2012 10:19 GMT
#4797
huk is top 3 even if he loses everything
twndomn
Profile Joined September 2010
401 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 10:20:29
February 26 2012 10:19 GMT
#4798
On February 26 2012 17:35 Wroshe wrote:


Regardless of HuK's nationality (indeed Dual citizenship) it has to be said that the North American scene is just lagging behind. Besides HuK and IdrA (if he ever gets into form again, he currently is absolutely afwul, but that's another matter) who do they have that is of the highest level? I don't see them.

Europe just has a scene that isn't as top heavy and as a lot of players that can compete at that high level. Names that immediatly come to mind are ThorZaIN, NaNiwa, Kas, DIMAGA and Stephano but there are many more.


At the current state, Idra is code B, so is Huk. Idra, as of Feb., has not have top 3 finishes in 2012. Hence, you cannot give much credits to Idra until he proves himself once again, at the current patch version of sc2. Hence overall, North America, or perhaps pan America, only has code B talent.
"If MC wins this, his name would not be SK MC, it would be ST MC, ST for Saint, performing miracles." - Artosis.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
February 26 2012 10:23 GMT
#4799
On February 26 2012 19:19 twndomn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 17:35 Wroshe wrote:


Regardless of HuK's nationality (indeed Dual citizenship) it has to be said that the North American scene is just lagging behind. Besides HuK and IdrA (if he ever gets into form again, he currently is absolutely afwul, but that's another matter) who do they have that is of the highest level? I don't see them.

Europe just has a scene that isn't as top heavy and as a lot of players that can compete at that high level. Names that immediatly come to mind are ThorZaIN, NaNiwa, Kas, DIMAGA and Stephano but there are many more.


At the current state, Idra is code B, so is Huk. Idra, as of Feb., has not have top 3 finishes in 2012. Hence, you cannot give much credits to Idra until he proves himself once again, at the current patch version of sc2. Hence overall, North America, or perhaps pan America, only has code B talent.

This is some interesting logic....talent can be interpreted in many ways, I could easily say they have code S talent, but caring about where it is every waking second is irrelevant because then it would alaways be changing and no one could have a solid place in the pecking order. Huk is a code B talent but is doing amazingly well right now....I'll take code B if that's what it means.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
February 26 2012 10:23 GMT
#4800
I'm suprised HuK is doing so well again, oh well I guess he can do it when he wishes.
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