EPTMLG Winter Arena Day 2 - Page 238
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Apparently some people are dumb enough to STILL be asking for it, so let's make things clear: Do NOT ask for re-streams, and do NOT post re-streams. Do not come here and muddle the thread by bitching about PPV. | ||
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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jj33
802 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:34 Doublemint wrote: Really? This again, like in any other thread? ( most recently - POLT NOT A TOP KOREAN TERRAN!!111 - playing one of the best series of games vs Lucky/Stephano ever broadcasted) Talking about who´s top and who´s not in this one dimensional way? As long as they´re in the GSL they rock the house and otherwise they are garbage? Won´t try to pursue this argument any further, so... HBD my friend, enjoy your day. don't put words in my mouth, I never said polt is bad. losira on the other hand has been performing HORRIBLY, whether he's in GSL or not. he's not good atm. Polt on the otherhand still looked solid to me. And I never said Losirsa is bad due to him not being in gsl, I said he's bad because he's just not good anymore. and yes, what I said about losira not being a top player, is very true. He's not at the moment. and you couldn't pursue your argument, because I never said anything you accuse me of saying and you're wrong flatout. | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:49 jj33 wrote: don't put words in my mouth, I never said polt is bad. losira on the other hand has been performing HORRIBLY, whether he's in GSL or not. he's not good atm. Polt on the otherhand still looked solid to me. And I never said Losirsa is bad due to him not being in gsl, I said he's bad because he's just not good anymore. and yes, what I said about losira not being a top player, is very true. He's not at the moment. and you couldn't pursue your argument, because I never said anything you accuse me of saying and you're wrong flatout. Polt isn't a top player right now either though  Lots of people are better than him even amongst Terrans. MMA/Jikaji/Gumiho and more. He is a good player but definitely not top | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:52 mrtomjones wrote: Polt isn't a top player right now either though Lots of people are better than him even amongst Terrans. MMA/Jikaji/Gumiho and more. He is a good player but definitely not top Kinda depend on how you define "top"...he's definitely top 10 terran to me.. | ||
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Spaceneil8
United States317 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:49 jj33 wrote: don't put words in my mouth, I never said polt is bad. losira on the other hand has been performing HORRIBLY, whether he's in GSL or not. he's not good atm. Polt on the otherhand still looked solid to me. And I never said Losirsa is bad due to him not being in gsl, I said he's bad because he's just not good anymore. and yes, what I said about losira not being a top player, is very true. He's not at the moment. and you couldn't pursue your argument, because I never said anything you accuse me of saying and you're wrong flatout. Losira beat Happy, Gumiho, Marineking (twice), TheSTC, and lost 4-3 to Parting in the Korean qualifier to get to the arena. I would say he's still a top player. His ZvP might not be up to par though, which MIGHT be why he lost to grubby at the event and parting (in the qualifiers). | ||
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roymarthyup
1442 Posts
i bet he could. damn pvp | ||
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MrKn4rz
Germany2153 Posts
On February 26 2012 16:06 roymarthyup wrote: i wonder if idra could practice PvP for a week and then have a 50% winrate against huk in a bo13 i bet he could. damn pvp User was warned for this post | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On February 26 2012 16:06 roymarthyup wrote: i wonder if idra could practice PvP for a week and then have a 50% winrate against huk in a bo13 i bet he could. damn pvp I bet he wouldn't win a single game. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:52 mrtomjones wrote: Polt isn't a top player right now either though Lots of people are better than him even amongst Terrans. MMA/Jikaji/Gumiho and more. He is a good player but definitely not top SC2 is a funny game way it runs in streaks. I wouldnt bet against polt vs anyone way he played today. Some days Losira is like that. Some days MC is like that. Some days etc etc etc. The successful players have more on days than off days therefore to me a useful way of adding it all up currently is elos, long term, winnings. Polt is 16 in ELO, 3rd in money - for terrans. Definite top 10. | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
Yah... some Protoss have good win rates in PvP. It may be a bit coinflippy but it is much less so than before and the better player wins more often then not. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
Dude it's PvP. A bronze Zerg could beat HuK 10% of the time just by proxy 2 gating everytime. | ||
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GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
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Ghoststrikes
Canada1356 Posts
On February 26 2012 16:26 tdt wrote: Dude it's PvP. A bronze Zerg could beat HuK 10% of the time just by proxy 2 gating everytime. Rofl. You are either not a protoss, or sour because YOU can't hold a 2 gate. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On February 26 2012 16:25 mrtomjones wrote: Yah... some Protoss have good win rates in PvP. It may be a bit coinflippy but it is much less so than before and the better player wins more often then not. While true. No protoss has win percentages even close to 90% like best in mirrors of other race. The best hover around 70%. Thus coin flip term is more applicable. We've all seen it over and over week in and week out. For example MC beating parting. One week later Parting beating him. | ||
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Tantaburs
Canada1825 Posts
On February 26 2012 16:26 tdt wrote: Dude it's PvP. A bronze Zerg could beat HuK 10% of the time just by proxy 2 gating everytime. I've seen huk hold off a proxy 2 gate with one gate while not losing a probe | ||
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Zanno
United States1484 Posts
On February 26 2012 16:29 tdt wrote: While true. No protoss has win percentages even close to 90% like best in mirrors of other race. The best hover around 70%. Thus coin flip term is more applicable. We've all seen it over and over week in and week out. For example MC beating parting. One week later Parting beating him. i think it's actually a map pool issue PvP on belshir looks absolutely nothing like PvP on entombed and neither look like PvP on antiga, and so forth compare that to TvZ where the flow of the game is generally the same, it's just the expansion patterns change the nature of engagements | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On February 26 2012 16:28 Ghoststrikes wrote: Rofl. You are either not a protoss, or sour because YOU can't hold a 2 gate. Well I may be exaggerating but I was trying to make a point about BO loss being prevalent in PvP. Pros comment on it all the time not news. | ||
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charcute
Canada419 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On February 26 2012 16:41 charcute wrote: People talking about coin flip in pvp just doesn't understand the game. "I can't understand something, it's must be cause of luck" i dont have a clue about PvP but pretty much every progmaer interview i read about PvP said it s luckbased and gimmicke. | ||
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