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Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 18 2011 16:40 GMT
#4281
On August 19 2011 01:39 AsnSensation wrote:
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On August 19 2011 01:37 Loxley wrote:
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haha u win

btw mouz prepare for some offers from eg to buy mana
anyway my players to root for for the rest of the tournament

go MANA
go freaking MINCHUL

More like mana prepare for some secret emails/business cards from EG :D.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 16:41:18
August 18 2011 16:41 GMT
#4282
On August 19 2011 01:40 Baituri wrote:
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On August 19 2011 01:37 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:37 CidO wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:23 Grumbels wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:21 CidO wrote:
And this is why it's not worth it to buy a player based off a single tournament performance. EG bought into the Hype just the same as netizens seem to only have a 1-2 month max history memory of events.

Puma is good, he's pro level obviously, but Mana has been solid for a while, anyone who picked Puma to beat Mana is just silly

This is so dumb, Puma is way favored playing against Mana.

Why? Because I don't buy into 30 day hype? Get off it - 1 month results are not everything. Look for solid players who post consistent results. Europe is solid. Mana, Nerchio, White-Ra, Dimaga, i'd pick any of those 4 over Puma.


I hope you never bet money, because you would get your ass owned in predictions :X

I hope you never bet money. Betting on someone who only has 1 result and has not shown a lot besides that 1 tournament.

Betting on any solid korean against a foreigner is free money in the long run
Mercury-
Profile Joined December 2010
Great Britain804 Posts
August 18 2011 16:41 GMT
#4283
On August 19 2011 01:33 Warrior Madness wrote:
I'm very surprised Huk is down 0-2 in his group. I guess he's got top 3 incontrol now.

He is adjusting to the level of the rest of his team. Same with Puma.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 18 2011 16:41 GMT
#4284
On August 19 2011 01:40 ZAiNs wrote:
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On August 19 2011 01:37 HitMonkie wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:36 AlBundy wrote:
Flying all around the world in order to compete in various tournaments in nice and all, but it seems that it kinda prevents the players from playing to the maximum of their ability. I don't think one can reach a reasonnable level of consistency by travelling all over the place.



Koreans do it all the time and they still dominate.

The excuse about Jetlag is getting old.

He played badly and got stomped, that's it.

He played badly because of all the travelling he has done. In the last few weeks: Korea (GSL) > America (MLG) > Finland (Assembly) > America (Blizzcon Qualifier) > Korea (GSL) > Germany (IEM).
Before his HSC3/Dreamhack run he hadn't travelled very much and had a lot of time to practice.

but somehow he won his code S games, dunno about quality of the games didnt watch
Stork[gm]
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
August 18 2011 16:41 GMT
#4285
Ah so we've got an entire thread of Korean apologists now. Why does this always happen.

Maybe it's just time you all acknowledged that the overlapping skillcaps between EU pros, US pros and Korean pros is smaller than people would have you conventionally think. Puma beat MC. Not in a winner takes all last gasp end game insertion. He beat him over a best of 7. MC played very well, too.

Could it just be that on their day, any of these players can beat each other?

That's a much more interesting, much more fruitful and frankly much more entertaining discussion to have than this moronic foreigner vs Korean fanboyism.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 18 2011 16:41 GMT
#4286
On August 19 2011 01:40 MrCon wrote:
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On August 19 2011 01:40 Eufouria wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:37 CruiseR wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:35 claash wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:34 hugman wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Poland>Sweden right now ?

It's hard to say who's better between Naniwa and Mana
I would say ThorZaIN > Tarson, Nerchio > MorroW & Haypro, but SjoW > DieStar


you can forget people like haypro and sjow to be honest and morrow isnt a 3 top zerg in europe as well.
you gotta compare each of them eachother so im sure poland is better


let's not turn this into X>Y thing, lets just say that top3 european countries are sweden, poland and ukraine for sure.

And Britain. Oh wait our best player hasn't lived here for about a year.

And he's on EG so he's not relevant anymore :D



Good thing I'm both British/Korean. Hahahahah
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
August 18 2011 16:41 GMT
#4287
On August 19 2011 01:39 schben wrote:
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On August 19 2011 01:36 VileVe wrote:
fuck yeah poland! ill forgive you for the stolen cars! Man - A/nerchio for top 2!

I thought only Germans have this stereotype. You always learn something useful on TL^^


nah idiots has no specific nation
oh in the sun sun having fun
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 18 2011 16:41 GMT
#4288
On August 19 2011 01:40 Bagi wrote:
Huk went 1-6 in maps huh?

Are we gonna keep blaming jetlag or at least admit that he is horribly inconsistent?


MC got 3-1'ed by HongUn

Are we going to say players sometimes don't play their best or that MC is shitty now?
ZionsWrath
Profile Joined December 2010
United States121 Posts
August 18 2011 16:41 GMT
#4289
I like how they put the schedule up and don't put a clock with their local time.

Knowing that a majority of their stream viewers are not located in their time zone.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 18 2011 16:42 GMT
#4290
On August 19 2011 01:41 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:40 Baituri wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:37 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:37 CidO wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:23 Grumbels wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:21 CidO wrote:
And this is why it's not worth it to buy a player based off a single tournament performance. EG bought into the Hype just the same as netizens seem to only have a 1-2 month max history memory of events.

Puma is good, he's pro level obviously, but Mana has been solid for a while, anyone who picked Puma to beat Mana is just silly

This is so dumb, Puma is way favored playing against Mana.

Why? Because I don't buy into 30 day hype? Get off it - 1 month results are not everything. Look for solid players who post consistent results. Europe is solid. Mana, Nerchio, White-Ra, Dimaga, i'd pick any of those 4 over Puma.


I hope you never bet money, because you would get your ass owned in predictions :X

I hope you never bet money. Betting on someone who only has 1 result and has not shown a lot besides that 1 tournament.

Betting on any solid korean against a foreigner is free money in the long run

I'm not even sure about that, as you'll get odds like 1.2.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
August 18 2011 16:42 GMT
#4291
On August 19 2011 01:40 synapse wrote:
Why does Kelly keep asking questions like "do you have a special strategy vs this team" ....... why the hell would you ask players that >.>


Why do you feel the need to criticize her multiple times in multiple LR threads....why would you keep being so repetative and rude?
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
iAmBiGbiRd
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia1029 Posts
August 18 2011 16:42 GMT
#4292
On August 19 2011 01:35 Asha` wrote:
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On August 19 2011 01:34 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:32 Asha` wrote:
Gutted for Tarson

TvZ so shaky, baneling busted and then a late siege and it's GG. Shame, think he'd have been a stronger opponent to have in the playoff stages.


Not to be rude but you have been pretty much indirectly bashing mOOnGLaDe all day even when he wins convincingly....how would he be a stronger opponent when he lost 0-2??


Tend to think he's better across more match ups.

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On August 19 2011 01:35 AxionSteel wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:34 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:32 Asha` wrote:
Gutted for Tarson

TvZ so shaky, baneling busted and then a late siege and it's GG. Shame, think he'd have been a stronger opponent to have in the playoff stages.


Not to be rude but you have been pretty much indirectly bashing mOOnGLaDe all day even when he wins convincingly....how would he be a stronger opponent when he lost 0-2??


He's English, probably doesn't like us


I have nothing against Aussies, Melbourne's an awesome place. I do get bothered about people who don't take practice or whatever seriously though, it's why I don't like FD and Tester.


Are you serious?? The bloke went all around the world earlier this year playing SC2 and training his arse off and spent a fair bit of time in Korea then has some time off for himself due to personal issues, yet still smashes skulls but you don't like him because he hasn't practiced for a while.....just wow
Hello friends:)
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
August 18 2011 16:42 GMT
#4293
I cant believe Moonglade made it out of his group, hasnt he been taking care of kellys kid for the last 6 months?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38211 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 16:42:46
August 18 2011 16:42 GMT
#4294
On August 19 2011 01:39 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:37 CidO wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:23 Grumbels wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:21 CidO wrote:
And this is why it's not worth it to buy a player based off a single tournament performance. EG bought into the Hype just the same as netizens seem to only have a 1-2 month max history memory of events.

Puma is good, he's pro level obviously, but Mana has been solid for a while, anyone who picked Puma to beat Mana is just silly

This is so dumb, Puma is way favored playing against Mana.

Why? Because I don't buy into 30 day hype? Get off it - 1 month results are not everything. Look for solid players who post consistent results. Europe is solid. Mana, Nerchio, White-Ra, Dimaga, i'd pick any of those 4 over Puma.


hehe, its the artosis curse, clide...now puma but u r right, people hyping him up because of nasl, he didnt do anything besides that


Puma actually had a super strong month with a dominant performance in the GSTL, great play in the iCCup KR weeklies, and culminating in the NASL victory. Since then though he really hasn't done too much, losing pretty early to a number of lesser known players in the KR weekly etc etc.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
August 18 2011 16:42 GMT
#4295
On August 19 2011 01:40 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:40 Eufouria wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:37 CruiseR wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:35 claash wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:34 hugman wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Poland>Sweden right now ?

It's hard to say who's better between Naniwa and Mana
I would say ThorZaIN > Tarson, Nerchio > MorroW & Haypro, but SjoW > DieStar


you can forget people like haypro and sjow to be honest and morrow isnt a 3 top zerg in europe as well.
you gotta compare each of them eachother so im sure poland is better


let's not turn this into X>Y thing, lets just say that top3 european countries are sweden, poland and ukraine for sure.

And Britain. Oh wait our best player hasn't lived here for about a year.

And he's on EG so he's not relevant anymore :D

The EG curse manifests itself differently in DeMusliM. It just causes him to be injured constantly.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
August 18 2011 16:42 GMT
#4296
On August 19 2011 01:40 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:37 CruiseR wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:35 claash wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:34 hugman wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Poland>Sweden right now ?

It's hard to say who's better between Naniwa and Mana
I would say ThorZaIN > Tarson, Nerchio > MorroW & Haypro, but SjoW > DieStar


you can forget people like haypro and sjow to be honest and morrow isnt a 3 top zerg in europe as well.
you gotta compare each of them eachother so im sure poland is better


let's not turn this into X>Y thing, lets just say that top3 european countries are sweden, poland and ukraine for sure.

And Britain. Oh wait our best player hasn't lived here for about a year.


You mean your only player
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 18 2011 16:42 GMT
#4297
On August 19 2011 01:39 flowSthead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:35 claash wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:34 hugman wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Poland>Sweden right now ?

It's hard to say who's better between Naniwa and Mana
I would say ThorZaIN > Tarson, Nerchio > MorroW & Haypro, but SjoW > DieStar


you can forget people like haypro and sjow to be honest and morrow isnt a 3 top zerg in europe as well.
you gotta compare each of them eachother so im sure poland is better


Wait what? You can forget Sjow for some reason? I don't understand your reasoning at all.

sjow is FAR away from being a decent player. he cant multitask for S**T. he just won because terran was OP and everyone was bad. nowadays skill actually matters much more than back then. you cant just win with a decently executed strategy.
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
August 18 2011 16:42 GMT
#4298
On August 19 2011 01:41 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:40 Baituri wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:37 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:37 CidO wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:23 Grumbels wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:21 CidO wrote:
And this is why it's not worth it to buy a player based off a single tournament performance. EG bought into the Hype just the same as netizens seem to only have a 1-2 month max history memory of events.

Puma is good, he's pro level obviously, but Mana has been solid for a while, anyone who picked Puma to beat Mana is just silly

This is so dumb, Puma is way favored playing against Mana.

Why? Because I don't buy into 30 day hype? Get off it - 1 month results are not everything. Look for solid players who post consistent results. Europe is solid. Mana, Nerchio, White-Ra, Dimaga, i'd pick any of those 4 over Puma.


I hope you never bet money, because you would get your ass owned in predictions :X

I hope you never bet money. Betting on someone who only has 1 result and has not shown a lot besides that 1 tournament.

Betting on any solid korean against a foreigner is free money in the long run


Not sure about puma being solid though. Couldn't even qualify for code A. Had some decent results in GSTL but never was pure owned it like DRG/MMA or the best macro player in the world, THEBEST.
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
August 18 2011 16:42 GMT
#4299
On August 19 2011 01:37 Loxley wrote:
[image loading]


first time i had to laugh today XD
thanks man!
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
August 18 2011 16:42 GMT
#4300
On August 19 2011 01:41 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:40 Baituri wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:37 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:37 CidO wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:23 Grumbels wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:21 CidO wrote:
And this is why it's not worth it to buy a player based off a single tournament performance. EG bought into the Hype just the same as netizens seem to only have a 1-2 month max history memory of events.

Puma is good, he's pro level obviously, but Mana has been solid for a while, anyone who picked Puma to beat Mana is just silly

This is so dumb, Puma is way favored playing against Mana.

Why? Because I don't buy into 30 day hype? Get off it - 1 month results are not everything. Look for solid players who post consistent results. Europe is solid. Mana, Nerchio, White-Ra, Dimaga, i'd pick any of those 4 over Puma.


I hope you never bet money, because you would get your ass owned in predictions :X

I hope you never bet money. Betting on someone who only has 1 result and has not shown a lot besides that 1 tournament.

Betting on any solid korean against a foreigner is free money in the long run

I guess... I went 1-1. Thought that Stephano and Mana would win. Only Mana did.
I guess you went 1-1. You thought Puma would win. He won against Stephano and lost to Mana.
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