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On August 19 2011 01:37 HitMonkie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 01:36 AlBundy wrote:
Flying all around the world in order to compete in various tournaments in nice and all, but it seems that it kinda prevents the players from playing to the maximum of their ability. I don't think one can reach a reasonnable level of consistency by travelling all over the place.
Koreans do it all the time and they still dominate. The excuse about Jetlag is getting old. He played badly and got stomped, that's it.
I actually can't think of any player who has done as much travelling in as short a period a time as HuK has recently. The conventional KR to NA/EU jetlag doesn't even compare, it's absolutely insane how much he has been doing.
He must be a complete wreck.
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On August 19 2011 01:41 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 01:40 Bagi wrote:
Huk went 1-6 in maps huh?
Are we gonna keep blaming jetlag or at least admit that he is horribly inconsistent? MC got 3-1'ed by HongUn Are we going to say players sometimes don't play their best or that MC is shitty now?
losing 1 series is ok, not going out of group 2 times is not the same....
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i really like mana's HT placement it's brilliant with EMP being so effectively used now
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On August 19 2011 01:40 Bagi wrote:
Huk went 1-6 in maps huh?
Are we gonna keep blaming jetlag or at least admit that he is horribly inconsistent?
Blaming EG seems more relevant.
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On August 19 2011 01:42 teddyoojo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 01:39 flowSthead wrote:On August 19 2011 01:35 claash wrote:On August 19 2011 01:34 hugman wrote:On August 19 2011 01:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Poland>Sweden right now ? It's hard to say who's better between Naniwa and Mana I would say ThorZaIN > Tarson, Nerchio > MorroW & Haypro, but SjoW > DieStar you can forget people like haypro and sjow to be honest and morrow isnt a 3 top zerg in europe as well. you gotta compare each of them eachother so im sure poland is better Wait what? You can forget Sjow for some reason? I don't understand your reasoning at all. sjow is FAR away from being a decent player. he cant multitask for S**T. he just won because terran was OP and everyone was bad. nowadays skill actually matters much more than back then. you cant just win with a decently executed strategy.
indeed.
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Will we get the play-off brackets today?
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Puma reality check
All: 37-16 (69.81%)
And pretty much all games against high level koreans
He for instance 4-1ed Puzzle and 3-0ed Sage
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On August 19 2011 01:41 mijagi182 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 01:39 schben wrote:On August 19 2011 01:36 VileVe wrote:
fuck yeah poland! ill forgive you for the stolen cars! Man - A/nerchio for top 2! I thought only Germans have this stereotype. You always learn something useful on TL^^ nah idiots has no specific nation
you win
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On August 19 2011 01:43 ZAiNs wrote:
Will we get the play-off brackets today?
They'll be announced after the LoL game.
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On August 19 2011 01:42 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 01:41 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 19 2011 01:40 Bagi wrote:
Huk went 1-6 in maps huh?
Are we gonna keep blaming jetlag or at least admit that he is horribly inconsistent? MC got 3-1'ed by HongUn Are we going to say players sometimes don't play their best or that MC is shitty now? losing 1 series is ok, not going out of group 2 times is not the same....
It's just a slump. Everyone has them. The true sign of a good player is whether he can break free from it. Let's just give it time and see.
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Did Nerchio really 2-0 Huk? Expected, but still awesome =)
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On August 19 2011 01:42 AntiGrav1ty wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 01:40 Eufouria wrote:On August 19 2011 01:37 CruiseR wrote:On August 19 2011 01:35 claash wrote:On August 19 2011 01:34 hugman wrote:On August 19 2011 01:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Poland>Sweden right now ? It's hard to say who's better between Naniwa and Mana I would say ThorZaIN > Tarson, Nerchio > MorroW & Haypro, but SjoW > DieStar you can forget people like haypro and sjow to be honest and morrow isnt a 3 top zerg in europe as well. you gotta compare each of them eachother so im sure poland is better let's not turn this into X>Y thing, lets just say that top3 european countries are sweden, poland and ukraine for sure. And Britain. Oh wait our best player hasn't lived here for about a year. You mean your only player 
You know why british are not so good in SC2?
They focus on RPGs, because they like to loot.
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On August 19 2011 01:43 claash wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 01:42 teddyoojo wrote:On August 19 2011 01:39 flowSthead wrote:On August 19 2011 01:35 claash wrote:On August 19 2011 01:34 hugman wrote:On August 19 2011 01:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Poland>Sweden right now ? It's hard to say who's better between Naniwa and Mana I would say ThorZaIN > Tarson, Nerchio > MorroW & Haypro, but SjoW > DieStar you can forget people like haypro and sjow to be honest and morrow isnt a 3 top zerg in europe as well. you gotta compare each of them eachother so im sure poland is better Wait what? You can forget Sjow for some reason? I don't understand your reasoning at all. sjow is FAR away from being a decent player. he cant multitask for S**T. he just won because terran was OP and everyone was bad. nowadays skill actually matters much more than back then. you cant just win with a decently executed strategy. indeed.
Did you watch MLG Anaheim?
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well there must be a reason why puma hasnt been able to qualify in however many qualifiers he's been to despite some calling him the omfgbestterranworld'z (gsl)
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On August 19 2011 01:41 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 01:40 Baituri wrote:On August 19 2011 01:37 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 19 2011 01:37 CidO wrote:On August 19 2011 01:23 Grumbels wrote:On August 19 2011 01:21 CidO wrote:
And this is why it's not worth it to buy a player based off a single tournament performance. EG bought into the Hype just the same as netizens seem to only have a 1-2 month max history memory of events.
Puma is good, he's pro level obviously, but Mana has been solid for a while, anyone who picked Puma to beat Mana is just silly This is so dumb, Puma is way favored playing against Mana. Why? Because I don't buy into 30 day hype? Get off it - 1 month results are not everything. Look for solid players who post consistent results. Europe is solid. Mana, Nerchio, White-Ra, Dimaga, i'd pick any of those 4 over Puma. I hope you never bet money, because you would get your ass owned in predictions :X I hope you never bet money. Betting on someone who only has 1 result and has not shown a lot besides that 1 tournament. Betting on any solid korean against a foreigner is free money in the long run
Solid Korean - Yes I'd be stupid to bet against one. When he's on his game, MC would be one.
I'd also bet on MVP, MMA, Nestea, Losira, HongUn, Ensnare, Clide, Polt and Bomber to name a few.
Puma though is not on that list. And therefore I would bet against him if say Mana were to play him in IEM.
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Watch DotA 2 instead, a lot more exciting than LoL :D
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On August 19 2011 01:41 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 01:40 Bagi wrote:
Huk went 1-6 in maps huh?
Are we gonna keep blaming jetlag or at least admit that he is horribly inconsistent? MC got 3-1'ed by HongUn Are we going to say players sometimes don't play their best or that MC is shitty now?
HongUn is at least a top5 protoss in korea. Its just one PvP series, which is always volatile.
Huk on the other hand did horribly at Assembly too and wasn't terribly impressive at the NA invitational. Lets not pretend this is the first time.
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moonglade won against tarson and moonglade/nerchio advance to the bracket ? cant find results on liquipedia 
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On August 19 2011 01:42 teddyoojo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 01:39 flowSthead wrote:On August 19 2011 01:35 claash wrote:On August 19 2011 01:34 hugman wrote:On August 19 2011 01:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Poland>Sweden right now ? It's hard to say who's better between Naniwa and Mana I would say ThorZaIN > Tarson, Nerchio > MorroW & Haypro, but SjoW > DieStar you can forget people like haypro and sjow to be honest and morrow isnt a 3 top zerg in europe as well. you gotta compare each of them eachother so im sure poland is better Wait what? You can forget Sjow for some reason? I don't understand your reasoning at all. sjow is FAR away from being a decent player. he cant multitask for S**T. he just won because terran was OP and everyone was bad. nowadays skill actually matters much more than back then. you cant just win with a decently executed strategy.
Sjow did pretty decently at Assembly, losing to Mana, but beating TLO, Adelscott and Happy. At Anaheim he beat Sheth, Cruncher, and Haypro, losing to Huk. How does any of these recent results mean that Sjow is bad?
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Damn mods should have acted earlier, this thread is out of control again.
Really sad that it doesnt work without mods.
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EPT
