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Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 18 2011 16:38 GMT
#4261
Well, I will now watch a full LoL match, usually I stop watching like 1-2 minutes in because I don't like it, but I'm forcing myself to at least check it out now ;p.
It appears I have been chosen.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 16:41:25
August 18 2011 16:39 GMT
#4262
On August 19 2011 01:35 claash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:34 hugman wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Poland>Sweden right now ?

It's hard to say who's better between Naniwa and Mana
I would say ThorZaIN > Tarson, Nerchio > MorroW & Haypro, but SjoW > DieStar


you can forget people like haypro and sjow to be honest and morrow isnt a 3 top zerg in europe as well.
you gotta compare each of them eachother so im sure poland is better


Sjow got top 10 last MLG and is one of the most successful foreigners, what are you talking about? Then there are players like Jinro, Merz, Bischu, Sase, Lalush etc...
SC2, rip in pepperinos
schben
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany60 Posts
August 18 2011 16:39 GMT
#4263
On August 19 2011 01:36 VileVe wrote:
fuck yeah poland! ill forgive you for the stolen cars! Man - A/nerchio for top 2!

I thought only Germans have this stereotype. You always learn something useful on TL^^
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 18 2011 16:39 GMT
#4264
On August 19 2011 01:37 Loxley wrote:
[image loading]


haha u win

btw mouz prepare for some offers from eg to buy mana
anyway my players to root for for the rest of the tournament

go MANA
go freaking MINCHUL
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 18 2011 16:39 GMT
#4265
On August 19 2011 01:37 CidO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:23 Grumbels wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:21 CidO wrote:
And this is why it's not worth it to buy a player based off a single tournament performance. EG bought into the Hype just the same as netizens seem to only have a 1-2 month max history memory of events.

Puma is good, he's pro level obviously, but Mana has been solid for a while, anyone who picked Puma to beat Mana is just silly

This is so dumb, Puma is way favored playing against Mana.

Why? Because I don't buy into 30 day hype? Get off it - 1 month results are not everything. Look for solid players who post consistent results. Europe is solid. Mana, Nerchio, White-Ra, Dimaga, i'd pick any of those 4 over Puma.


hehe, its the artosis curse, clide...now puma but u r right, people hyping him up because of nasl, he didnt do anything besides that
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
August 18 2011 16:39 GMT
#4266
Stephano 2-0'd Sase, too bad he didnt advance to his group
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
August 18 2011 16:39 GMT
#4267
On August 19 2011 01:35 claash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:34 hugman wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Poland>Sweden right now ?

It's hard to say who's better between Naniwa and Mana
I would say ThorZaIN > Tarson, Nerchio > MorroW & Haypro, but SjoW > DieStar


you can forget people like haypro and sjow to be honest and morrow isnt a 3 top zerg in europe as well.
you gotta compare each of them eachother so im sure poland is better


Wait what? You can forget Sjow for some reason? I don't understand your reasoning at all.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 18 2011 16:39 GMT
#4268
On August 19 2011 01:30 ZeraToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:28 Night Eyes wrote:
Just posted in the MaNa fan club:

On August 19 2011 01:02 Thorzain wrote:
Sign me up! Soon best toss EU!!:DD


That's how pro players should act to each other.



hope thorzain isnt trolling, cause actually right now mana would win....

i guess hes making fun of naniwa a bit. still, they are teammates so i doubt hes trolling mana :D
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Aryu
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany87 Posts
August 18 2011 16:40 GMT
#4269
this lol player guy has a really good attitude :D

surprising that mana beat puma though his tvp must really be good!
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
August 18 2011 16:40 GMT
#4270
On August 19 2011 01:37 CruiseR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:35 claash wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:34 hugman wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Poland>Sweden right now ?

It's hard to say who's better between Naniwa and Mana
I would say ThorZaIN > Tarson, Nerchio > MorroW & Haypro, but SjoW > DieStar


you can forget people like haypro and sjow to be honest and morrow isnt a 3 top zerg in europe as well.
you gotta compare each of them eachother so im sure poland is better


let's not turn this into X>Y thing, lets just say that top3 european countries are sweden, poland and ukraine for sure.

And Britain. Oh wait our best player hasn't lived here for about a year.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
August 18 2011 16:40 GMT
#4271
On August 19 2011 01:37 HitMonkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:36 AlBundy wrote:
Flying all around the world in order to compete in various tournaments in nice and all, but it seems that it kinda prevents the players from playing to the maximum of their ability. I don't think one can reach a reasonnable level of consistency by travelling all over the place.



Koreans do it all the time and they still dominate.

The excuse about Jetlag is getting old.

He played badly and got stomped, that's it.

Jetlag is just a part of it. I was also referring to training regimen. These players miss significant amount of pratice time.
o choro é livre
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 18 2011 16:40 GMT
#4272
Why does Kelly keep asking questions like "do you have a special strategy vs this team" ....... why the hell would you ask players that >.>
:)
cyberspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada955 Posts
August 18 2011 16:40 GMT
#4273
Lol Huk losing to Moonglade.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 18 2011 16:40 GMT
#4274
On August 19 2011 01:38 Stanlot wrote:
Are today's games over?

yep
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 18 2011 16:40 GMT
#4275
On August 19 2011 01:37 HitMonkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:36 AlBundy wrote:
Flying all around the world in order to compete in various tournaments in nice and all, but it seems that it kinda prevents the players from playing to the maximum of their ability. I don't think one can reach a reasonnable level of consistency by travelling all over the place.



Koreans do it all the time and they still dominate.

The excuse about Jetlag is getting old.

He played badly and got stomped, that's it.

He played badly because of all the travelling he has done. In the last few weeks: Korea (GSL) > America (MLG) > Finland (Assembly) > America (Blizzcon Qualifier) > Korea (GSL) > Germany (IEM).
Before his HSC3/Dreamhack run he hadn't travelled very much and had a lot of time to practice.
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
August 18 2011 16:40 GMT
#4276
On August 19 2011 01:37 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:37 CidO wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:23 Grumbels wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:21 CidO wrote:
And this is why it's not worth it to buy a player based off a single tournament performance. EG bought into the Hype just the same as netizens seem to only have a 1-2 month max history memory of events.

Puma is good, he's pro level obviously, but Mana has been solid for a while, anyone who picked Puma to beat Mana is just silly

This is so dumb, Puma is way favored playing against Mana.

Why? Because I don't buy into 30 day hype? Get off it - 1 month results are not everything. Look for solid players who post consistent results. Europe is solid. Mana, Nerchio, White-Ra, Dimaga, i'd pick any of those 4 over Puma.


I hope you never bet money, because you would get your ass owned in predictions :X

I hope you never bet money. Betting on someone who only has 1 result and has not shown a lot besides that 1 tournament.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
August 18 2011 16:40 GMT
#4277
On August 19 2011 01:37 CruiseR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:35 claash wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:34 hugman wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Poland>Sweden right now ?

It's hard to say who's better between Naniwa and Mana
I would say ThorZaIN > Tarson, Nerchio > MorroW & Haypro, but SjoW > DieStar


you can forget people like haypro and sjow to be honest and morrow isnt a 3 top zerg in europe as well.
you gotta compare each of them eachother so im sure poland is better


let's not turn this into X>Y thing, lets just say that top3 european countries are sweden, poland and ukraine for sure.


Please don't forget France ! Stephano, ToD, Adel, SarenS are not to be messed with :p Even if I admit they are not attending as many events as other players and might be a liiiittle bit behind right now. ^^
NoiR
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 18 2011 16:40 GMT
#4278
On August 19 2011 01:40 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:37 CruiseR wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:35 claash wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:34 hugman wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Poland>Sweden right now ?

It's hard to say who's better between Naniwa and Mana
I would say ThorZaIN > Tarson, Nerchio > MorroW & Haypro, but SjoW > DieStar


you can forget people like haypro and sjow to be honest and morrow isnt a 3 top zerg in europe as well.
you gotta compare each of them eachother so im sure poland is better


let's not turn this into X>Y thing, lets just say that top3 european countries are sweden, poland and ukraine for sure.

And Britain. Oh wait our best player hasn't lived here for about a year.

And he's on EG so he's not relevant anymore :D
jazzyjazz
Profile Joined October 2010
941 Posts
August 18 2011 16:40 GMT
#4279
On August 19 2011 01:35 astor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:34 bgx wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:33 Warrior Madness wrote:
I'm very surprised Huk is down 0-2 in his group. I guess he's got top 3 incontrol now.

ouch!



jetlag?


Might be jetlag, or just exhausted from constant travelling and foreign tournaments. Or, it could be just playing badly because he's with EG now...cuz MC is doing well even though of "jetlag".
Eat emmmmmmmmmm
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 18 2011 16:40 GMT
#4280
Huk went 1-6 in maps huh?

Are we gonna keep blaming jetlag or at least admit that he is horribly inconsistent?
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