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hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
September 02 2010 02:25 GMT
#1061
On September 02 2010 11:12 shrinkmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 07:23 thopol wrote:
I'm glad to finaly recieve an email. I was not allowed to write the reason we are doing this form some reason. However for this email I will tell you honestly why such decision was made.

First of all many of you seem to think that there is no reason for you to pay when there are alternatives. Let me tell you, there won;t be any alternatives. All sites that have been streaming SC2 such as OGN or MBC have been banned from braodcasting GSL. What if someone puts them on utube or on any other source? They will be found and they too will be banned. What about Korean Gomtv site? All IP from outside Korea will be blocked.

I have reported your reaction rowards the policy and the decision makers are aware of it. Everyone including me thinks it would be much more profitable in the long run if we broadcast the streams without charge, at least for this season.

One thing that many foreigners, or even Koreans are not well aware of is that Gomtv hardly has enough reesources to broadcast it even within Korea. We are relatively new in the market and conventional gaming channel are hogging all the sponsors. Most sponsors think there s no need to sponsor SC2 when SC1 is doing just fine. Also our balance sheet has been on negative side for very long time. We almost thought of giving up the whole e-sports thing because KeSPA and other channels have been giving us very hard time until Blizzard signed exclusive contract with us.

We have 2 more seasons to run just this year and yet we are underfunded and understaffed. The expense to host a server in US and providing English stream was much higher than we had anticipated. Probably why conventional channels never tried to expand beyond Korea. We desperately need money if we are to improve oversea service at this stage, and gaining sponsors is easier said than done.


So you want to tell me that Blizzard Activision a multi-billion dollar company did NOT check your financial capabilities before selling you the broadcasting rights for their new game, one of the most anticipated gaming titles of all time ?
Yeah, sure.





QFT
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
TheDoK666
Profile Joined May 2010
France179 Posts
September 02 2010 02:27 GMT
#1062
btw we must try to ask to tasteless and artosis or the player to take the replays of the games at least :p
pwet
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
September 02 2010 02:29 GMT
#1063
On September 02 2010 11:27 TheDoK666 wrote:
btw we must try to ask to tasteless and artosis or the player to take the replays of the games at least :p


They would never do that and they shouldnt...
CaptnIgnit
Profile Joined May 2010
United States192 Posts
September 02 2010 02:30 GMT
#1064
this makes me sad, I was really looking forward to seeing some of these games. Oh well, lots of other tourney's out there.
Goatlust
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia131 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 02:31:59
September 02 2010 02:30 GMT
#1065
I don't know why GOM-TV expects us to believe their financial capabilities stories when they have already outright lied to us this week telling us VODs would be free.

edit: I honestly think people should start contacting blizzard, seeing as they are a sponsor and obviously have a vested interest in this tournament. Blizzard needs to be aware that the company they put their faith in is running competitive sc2 into the ground.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 02 2010 02:31 GMT
#1066
On September 02 2010 11:18 phungus420 wrote:
If I were in Korea I'd do everything I could to ruin this event, running into the booths, shouting at the casters, unplugging wires, anything I could think of. Hopefully someone decides to take up the task of DDoSing Gom for the duration of this tourney and screw them out of all advertising revenue.

Also this sham should be pulled off the tourney tracker.


You are going a little too far, aren't you?
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Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
September 02 2010 02:35 GMT
#1067
On September 02 2010 11:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 11:18 phungus420 wrote:
If I were in Korea I'd do everything I could to ruin this event, running into the booths, shouting at the casters, unplugging wires, anything I could think of. Hopefully someone decides to take up the task of DDoSing Gom for the duration of this tourney and screw them out of all advertising revenue.

Also this sham should be pulled off the tourney tracker.


You are going a little too far, aren't you?

look at his name, hes probably just a little kid..

a stupid little kid
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1903 Posts
September 02 2010 02:38 GMT
#1068
lol gom must be thinking I am shitting money. Sadly I do not
TheDoK666
Profile Joined May 2010
France179 Posts
September 02 2010 02:39 GMT
#1069
or there's way to have a korean proxy to go through?
pwet
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
September 02 2010 02:39 GMT
#1070
On September 02 2010 11:12 shrinkmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 07:23 thopol wrote:
I'm glad to finaly recieve an email. I was not allowed to write the reason we are doing this form some reason. However for this email I will tell you honestly why such decision was made.

First of all many of you seem to think that there is no reason for you to pay when there are alternatives. Let me tell you, there won;t be any alternatives. All sites that have been streaming SC2 such as OGN or MBC have been banned from braodcasting GSL. What if someone puts them on utube or on any other source? They will be found and they too will be banned. What about Korean Gomtv site? All IP from outside Korea will be blocked.

I have reported your reaction rowards the policy and the decision makers are aware of it. Everyone including me thinks it would be much more profitable in the long run if we broadcast the streams without charge, at least for this season.

One thing that many foreigners, or even Koreans are not well aware of is that Gomtv hardly has enough reesources to broadcast it even within Korea. We are relatively new in the market and conventional gaming channel are hogging all the sponsors. Most sponsors think there s no need to sponsor SC2 when SC1 is doing just fine. Also our balance sheet has been on negative side for very long time. We almost thought of giving up the whole e-sports thing because KeSPA and other channels have been giving us very hard time until Blizzard signed exclusive contract with us.

We have 2 more seasons to run just this year and yet we are underfunded and understaffed. The expense to host a server in US and providing English stream was much higher than we had anticipated. Probably why conventional channels never tried to expand beyond Korea. We desperately need money if we are to improve oversea service at this stage, and gaining sponsors is easier said than done.


So you want to tell me that Blizzard Activision a multi-billion dollar company did NOT check your financial capabilities before selling you the broadcasting rights for their new game, one of the most anticipated gaming titles of all time ?
Yeah, sure.





Not only that but Gretech is basically owned by CJ, one of the largest corporations in South Korea. This entire thing just smells of greed.
biskit
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia355 Posts
September 02 2010 02:40 GMT
#1071
I do think GOMTV has made a big mistake here. I will never pay to watch eSport. I don't even pay to watch real sport.

If they need money, there are several options to do it without killing your customer base. Release a compilation of DVD of all the games in one season casted in English, documentary of the whole event, progamers interviews, Tshirt etc.

They should at least release a free low HD stream and allow people to upgrade to a better quality. The price they have right now is just downright silly though, I wonder if they have done any market research before hand.

To excuse their behaviour by saying they don't have money, it's just the same excuse KeSPA throws around. Ridiculous. These companies really need to come up with more creative excuses to cover their greed.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
September 02 2010 02:44 GMT
#1072
If they can't afford paying for streaming to an audience... all they have to do is take like 10-20K out of their prize pool and use it so people can actually WATCH your games. This pricing is just ridiculous.
nubcak3
Profile Joined July 2010
United States104 Posts
September 02 2010 02:46 GMT
#1073
epic fail!
and i was so looking forward to watching GSL.
thanks GOMTV
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Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
September 02 2010 02:53 GMT
#1074
I'm willing to pay but i simply can't afford this...
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Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
September 02 2010 02:56 GMT
#1075
On September 01 2010 19:21 Kinky wrote:
Sigh, have to agree with everyone else saying that it's not worth it.
Hooray for Korean commentators!



Plaguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
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laziboi
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada9 Posts
September 02 2010 02:57 GMT
#1076
RESTREAMMM!
Lee Jae Dong / Kim Taek Yong / Lee Young Ho
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
September 02 2010 02:59 GMT
#1077
On September 02 2010 11:56 GobIin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 19:21 Kinky wrote:
Sigh, have to agree with everyone else saying that it's not worth it.
Hooray for Korean commentators!



Plaguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!

we wont beable to watch unless a korean somehow restreams it. even then I dont know if it will last. Id imagine there going to be monitoring TL for this kind of thing .
HalfAmazing
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands402 Posts
September 02 2010 03:01 GMT
#1078
Since I don't watch streams, vods, or anything other than replays and am in no way being disadvantaged by this, I believe I can provide some objective analysis: GOMTV is being hilariously stupid. That is all!

You can figure out the other half.
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
September 02 2010 03:01 GMT
#1079
the silly thing is that the games take place at 19:00 korean time, so a majority of US/EU fans wont be able to tune in for the live (re)stream anyway
fuck lag
revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
September 02 2010 03:02 GMT
#1080
On September 02 2010 11:40 biskit wrote:
If they need money, there are several options to do it without killing your customer base. Release a compilation of DVD of all the games in one season casted in English, documentary of the whole event, progamers interviews, Tshirt etc.


This. If they ever released all three seasons of Classic with Tasteless & Co and include some behind-the-scenes content then it'd be a no-brainer
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