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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
September 02 2010 04:18 GMT
#1101
...

If this wasn't so ridiculous, I would be a little sad.
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super_toast
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States269 Posts
September 02 2010 04:19 GMT
#1102
Seems kind of ridiculous, I'd think free low quality and advertisements out of the ass would be enough to cover the bottom line, especially is there was a paid HQ stream added to it. Very bothersome indeed, I'll be looking for restreams and youtube VODs
Crafting Stars has never been this sexy
LagT_T
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina535 Posts
September 02 2010 04:22 GMT
#1103
I love the idiocy on denying the feedback of the largest SC2 "foreign" community from who they are trying to charge to watch.
"The tactics... no. Amateurs discuss tactics, professional soldiers study logistics." - Tom Clancy, Red Storm Rising
Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
September 02 2010 04:34 GMT
#1104
Looks like i'm not watching this one. Not paying to watch commercials, which will most likely happen.
"You are not trying to win, you are trying to be awesome" -Day[9]
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
September 02 2010 04:55 GMT
#1105
Well, i won't be up for the livestreams and definately won't be playing... Can only be hoping for YouTube vods...

Dota 3hard5me
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
September 02 2010 04:59 GMT
#1106
Unfortunate news.
I hoped they wouldn't do this.
I'll watch it some how.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
September 02 2010 04:59 GMT
#1107
I think I will pay the 2 dollars to watch select games, but I certainly wont be watching the whole thing.
hohoho
Frozzen
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden73 Posts
September 02 2010 05:01 GMT
#1108
I thought it was funny how a vod pass was $10 more expensive then a live pass.

Thoose vods better be 1080p!
"Give a man a fire and he is warm for a night. But set him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life"
RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
September 02 2010 05:08 GMT
#1109
I seriously hope GOM retracts their strategy, they'll get like 100-200 viewers. At this point they'd probably get more people if they made it free then premium 30 dollars. They'll get like 1000 people to buy atleast if they have something like that. It seems just really retarded they could get more people to pay just by making it free with money for an upgrade, someone really is stupid making the GOMTV business decisions. This is really one of those "WHAT ARE THEY THINKING?" moments.
hohoho
FPSKeNz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
91 Posts
September 02 2010 05:15 GMT
#1110
It's funny how people think that this will kill SCII in Korea or set it back for another year, and also think that this is bad for GOMTV and that streaming it for free is better.

To the point. It was never about promoting any game or e-Sports. The world is driven by money. GOMTV will still benefit and Korean SCII will still benefit from this event because since it is streamed for free in Korea, it is not hurting GOMTV's position which is to handle SCII in Korea, not outside of it.

If anything, this is just another way to get a side revenue from everything. It doesn't matter whether you pay or you don't, because this is just added income, not their main revenue stream. The same ads will be played to the Koreans as the ones that will be played for you people who payed to watch the stream from Artosis and Tasteless.

This is never going to go to the point where it is going to kill SCII as an e-Sport. SCII is still big in all states of the world, regardless of what is going to happen here. This is about the Korean scene, so anything relation that it has to the international scene (be it you being from US/EU) is an added bonus.

The main difference between this and all the theories everyone has come up with to go against GOMTV's decision is that it is inapplicable to e-Sports as it is to anything else in the world. How many people said that they will boycott SCII because of the whole Battle.net, no cross-realm play, no chat servers etc etc thingy? And look at the situation now, Blizzard still sold over 3 million copies.

We all say we won't do anything now and not pay etc etc. But at the end of the day, at least 20-30% of the idiots who post here will fold and still end up paying for it.

In the real world, tell me where can you find such manipulation of consumer demand? This situation is equivalent to Blizzard/GOMTV being able to manipulate the market and its demand for its products and yet get away with it despite not satisfying the entire population.

Maybe one company has so far been able to get away with it, Apple. The iPad. Bigger version of the iPod Touch, no?
Sebudai
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5 Posts
September 02 2010 05:22 GMT
#1111
The current pricing model is absolutely outrageous. How can they expect to grow the sport with that kind of cost attached? I love watching professional Starcraft. In fact I enjoy watching it more than I enjoy watching most American sports at this point. I've even been encouraging my friends to give it a try. Well, we can throw that idea out the window now based on this news. How on Earth do you expect to attract new viewers with an upfront cost of $50 to view a single tournament's worth of coverage?

There should be a free, low quality, advertisement-laden stream as well as an option to pay for a higher-quality and/or advertisement-free stream. Likewise for the VODs. I'd be more than happy to pay a reasonable price for say a yearly subscription fee to gain access to high-quality, 1080p VODs. Do I expect newer players to share my willingness to shell out money to watch other people play Starcraft 2? Haha, no, and neither should GOMTV. You need free coverage for something like this to grow.

I will not be paying $50 to watch a single "season's" worth of coverage. This is a terrible business decision, and very disappointing.
c0rn1
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany146 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 05:29:20
September 02 2010 05:28 GMT
#1112
I pay $60 for a full season of NHL icehockey with over 1000 games of paid professionals up to $ 10,000,000 salary including TV teams everywhere and huge buildings to play the game.

And you want to chage $50 for a tournament of 200 games max in a niche sport like sc2?
Are you out of your mind or is that activision policy you just support with that?

not 1 cent will move from my pocket into your bank account.

over and out
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. " (Albert Einstein)
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 05:32:21
September 02 2010 05:31 GMT
#1113
On September 01 2010 18:13 RifleCow wrote:
Well, I guess there goes the hope of eSports and starcraft 2. T__T


Yup, it's apparent even the most hardcore SC2 fans won't even pay to see epic matches between the best players in the world. While traditional sports fans dole out wads of cash to see their favorite players/teams.

On September 01 2010 18:19 Puosu wrote:
Limiting your userbase to only the hardcore fans who will be paying for the stream will be detrimental in the long run. A large part of the first tournaments audience consisted of people who hadn't even heard of Brood War progaming before the tournament, the streams spread around the internet and people become aware of StarCraft and thus the community grew as did the amount of spectators you got.

Ah well, I am sure you're aware of all the pros and cons of the road you took and made a well calculated choice.
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 18:16 yoshi_yoshi wrote:
Live stream ticket is $20 / season. VODs $30 / season. Each season is a month right?

Seriously? No GSL for me then. =(


But Puosu makes a great point.

It seems to me that gretech is unable to secure enough sponsers since they've basically made themselves + Blizzard the enemy of every BW-related organization.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Go0g3n
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Russian Federation410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 05:36:53
September 02 2010 05:31 GMT
#1114
Hell, way too much fuzz about $50. Whether you like it or not, there will be enough paying customers to cover production costs of the English-speaking broadcast, there will be a spike in sales if foreigners manage to get into top 16 or further, plus as StarCraft II e-sports scene grows, the 'observatory' audience will grow as well.

I'd like to remind everyone that it isn't the year 2000, the community is no longer made of 13 year olds who could barely scrap $60 to purchase the game (or couldn't and were playing on FSGS, Lurker, Gamei, PGT, Abyss, - iCCup). Like any other sports cable channel (Wrestling, Golf, whatever) - Gretech's goal is to form a solid commercial client-base, the goal they are going to achieve by having exclusive broadcasting rights over arguably the most perspective e-sports strategy game in the business.
Talic_Zealot
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
688 Posts
September 02 2010 05:35 GMT
#1115
Has GomTV responded in any way? I haven't seen a response in either their forum or here.
There are three types of people in the universe: those who can count, and those who cant.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
September 02 2010 05:35 GMT
#1116
so THATS how they were planning on hitting the 80K prize pool money...
Jaedong.
Donner
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany91 Posts
September 02 2010 05:36 GMT
#1117
On September 02 2010 14:31 Go0g3n wrote:
I'd like to remind everyone that it isn't the year 2000, the community is no longer made of 13 year olds who could barely scrap $60 to purchase the game (or couldn't and were playing on FSGS, Lurker, Gamei, PGT, Abyss, - iCCup)


no, they're 24 year old now and still have no 50$ left :-O

seriously though, i wasnt shocked by this news until i saw the prize. i'm willing to pay but not this amount, i think its too high for this quality/service. the speed test on this site gave me a 140k (although i have a 6mbit connection), that stopped me from purchasing anyway.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 05:46:38
September 02 2010 05:46 GMT
#1118
On September 02 2010 14:36 Donner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 14:31 Go0g3n wrote:
I'd like to remind everyone that it isn't the year 2000, the community is no longer made of 13 year olds who could barely scrap $60 to purchase the game (or couldn't and were playing on FSGS, Lurker, Gamei, PGT, Abyss, - iCCup)


no, they're 24 year old now and still have no 50$ left :-O

seriously though, i wasnt shocked by this news until i saw the prize. i'm willing to pay but not this amount, i think its too high for this quality/service. the speed test on this site gave me a 140k (although i have a 6mbit connection), that stopped me from purchasing anyway.


Nah, it's half and half if the last age poll means anything. Penniless kids and penniless tweens.

The price is a bit too high though especially the VODs pass. -_-
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Go0g3n
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Russian Federation410 Posts
September 02 2010 05:48 GMT
#1119
On September 02 2010 14:36 Donner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 14:31 Go0g3n wrote:
I'd like to remind everyone that it isn't the year 2000, the community is no longer made of 13 year olds who could barely scrap $60 to purchase the game (or couldn't and were playing on FSGS, Lurker, Gamei, PGT, Abyss, - iCCup)


no, they're 24 year old now and still have no 50$ left :-O

seriously though, i wasnt shocked by this news until i saw the prize. i'm willing to pay but not this amount, i think its too high for this quality/service. the speed test on this site gave me a 140k (although i have a 6mbit connection), that stopped me from purchasing anyway.


Gave me a 330k speed, while I'm running @ unlimited 100mbit with ~8mb/s download speed. Good stuff.
zsm
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden11 Posts
September 02 2010 05:49 GMT
#1120
This is too rich for me, even more so when the stream quality likely won't be worth the price.
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