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zzz.Sleepy
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1 Post
September 22 2012 11:49 GMT
#201
Please update! TL of all places should have the most relevant and up to date compendium of guides, builds, etc.!!
baconftw
Profile Joined July 2012
Denmark45 Posts
September 22 2012 22:36 GMT
#202
On September 22 2012 20:49 zzz.Sleepy wrote:
Please update! TL of all places should have the most relevant and up to date compendium of guides, builds, etc.!!


I totally agree
''Learn lots. Don't judge. Laugh for no reason. Be nice. Seek happiness.'' - Sean ''Day[9]'' Plott.
Xulton
Profile Joined September 2011
United States10 Posts
September 25 2012 13:34 GMT
#203
On September 22 2012 20:49 zzz.Sleepy wrote:
Please update! TL of all places should have the most relevant and up to date compendium of guides, builds, etc.!!

Yeah a lot of these guides are sort of outdated now.
MVPDongRaeGu / ST_Curious / ST_Life / TSL_Hyun / MVPSniper
Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France2025 Posts
September 26 2012 06:17 GMT
#204
Seems like a lot of work to update the WoL strategy section when HotS is coming in a couple of months.
geiko.813 (EU)
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 26 2012 06:23 GMT
#205
On September 26 2012 15:17 Geiko wrote:
Seems like a lot of work to update the WoL strategy section when HotS is coming in a couple of months.


Not to burst your bubble or anything but hots isn't coming out for another 5 months minimum imo. If hots were to come out in 2 months my mind would be blown. It is blizzard! :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
September 26 2012 08:13 GMT
#206
Indeed, this needs an update as soon as possible - it's long overdue.

Like if I look up TvT builds, the only thing I find is iEchoic's TvT which has been outdated for over a year now.
thepuppyassassin: "My god... the deathball's grown wings!"
Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France2025 Posts
September 26 2012 08:16 GMT
#207
On September 26 2012 15:23 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 15:17 Geiko wrote:
Seems like a lot of work to update the WoL strategy section when HotS is coming in a couple of months.


Not to burst your bubble or anything but hots isn't coming out for another 5 months minimum imo. If hots were to come out in 2 months my mind would be blown. It is blizzard! :D


I want to dream :'(
I don't even have a beta key, I start all my ladder games with "necessito un beta key per favor". The thought of HotS coming soon is what keeps me going
geiko.813 (EU)
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 08:20:58
September 26 2012 08:20 GMT
#208
The problem with that is, there's always been less blue Terran posters (and other contributors) than Zerg and especially Protoss. Since everything in sc2 strat is done by volunteers, your best bet is to hope more Terrans like Ver and TheDwf start writing a bit more.

Also Geiko, i have been a loyal Blizzard client for 10 years, the first time i signed up for a Beta key was with TFT. And i have never, ever received one. Join the club :D
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
IceBergZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia176 Posts
November 13 2012 06:37 GMT
#209
good stuff
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 17:18:49
December 02 2012 17:01 GMT
#210
This thread is getting some major updates, as well as the rest of the strategy forums. First up is Protoss guides. Teoita has kindly updated all the Protoss guides section so they're up to date. If you feel you wrote a good Protoss guide and would like it included, please post here. Here are the changes made today:

  • Took out comparison of PvP builds, put in the PvP overview.
  • Took out some 4gate defense stuff. At this point 3stalker rush and Alej's thread are enough.
  • Took out Cecil's guide on Adel's PvP.
  • Added Remark's guide on phoenix openings.
  • Changed Cecil's old DT thread with the most recent one.
  • Took out Arcanefrost's PvT overview.
  • Added kcdc's late game PvT thread.
  • Took out Cecil's 3gate aggression into expand.
  • Took out minigun's fake 3gate Robo.
  • Added kcdc's and Teoita's guide on 2base templar.
  • Added the PvZ guide.
  • Took out the Brown vs Losira thread.
  • Added monk's thread on taking a third.
  • Took out Time's build.
  • Added the guides for immortal all-in, blink all-in, alej's timing attack thread.
  • Took out iamke's and Cecil's threads on midgame builds, added Alej's 3base Colossus and kcdc's 3base zealot immortal instead.

Hopefully we can get the Terran and Zerg sections updated asaply!
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
December 02 2012 17:10 GMT
#211
Thief, the 2base templar guide is mine not yours
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
minimalistic
Profile Joined August 2010
Hungary157 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 17:59:46
December 02 2012 17:59 GMT
#212
On December 03 2012 02:01 monk. wrote:
This thread is getting some major updates, as well as the rest of the strategy forums. First up is Protoss guides. Teoita has kindly updated all the Protoss guides section so they're up to date. If you feel you wrote a good Protoss guide and would like it included, please post here. Here are the changes made today:

  • Took out comparison of PvP builds, put in the PvP overview.
  • Took out some 4gate defense stuff. At this point 3stalker rush and Alej's thread are enough.
  • Took out Cecil's guide on Adel's PvP.
  • Added Remark's guide on phoenix openings.
  • Changed Cecil's old DT thread with the most recent one.
  • Took out Arcanefrost's PvT overview.
  • Added kcdc's late game PvT thread.
  • Took out Cecil's 3gate aggression into expand.
  • Took out minigun's fake 3gate Robo.
  • Added kcdc's and Teoita's guide on 2base templar.
  • Added the PvZ guide.
  • Took out the Brown vs Losira thread.
  • Added monk's thread on taking a third.
  • Took out Time's build.
  • Added the guides for immortal all-in, blink all-in, alej's timing attack thread.
  • Took out iamke's and Cecil's threads on midgame builds, added Alej's 3base Colossus and kcdc's 3base zealot immortal instead.

Hopefully we can get the Terran and Zerg sections updated asaply!


Monk there is a typo:

Build/Style/Standard: Startale 2Base Templar
Open with a fast expansion, tech safely to High Templar to take a thread and head into the lategame

"A baby Gracken dies every time you use Ghost + Mech" -unknown chat user
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
December 02 2012 18:03 GMT
#213
On December 03 2012 02:59 minimalistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 02:01 monk. wrote:
This thread is getting some major updates, as well as the rest of the strategy forums. First up is Protoss guides. Teoita has kindly updated all the Protoss guides section so they're up to date. If you feel you wrote a good Protoss guide and would like it included, please post here. Here are the changes made today:

  • Took out comparison of PvP builds, put in the PvP overview.
  • Took out some 4gate defense stuff. At this point 3stalker rush and Alej's thread are enough.
  • Took out Cecil's guide on Adel's PvP.
  • Added Remark's guide on phoenix openings.
  • Changed Cecil's old DT thread with the most recent one.
  • Took out Arcanefrost's PvT overview.
  • Added kcdc's late game PvT thread.
  • Took out Cecil's 3gate aggression into expand.
  • Took out minigun's fake 3gate Robo.
  • Added kcdc's and Teoita's guide on 2base templar.
  • Added the PvZ guide.
  • Took out the Brown vs Losira thread.
  • Added monk's thread on taking a third.
  • Took out Time's build.
  • Added the guides for immortal all-in, blink all-in, alej's timing attack thread.
  • Took out iamke's and Cecil's threads on midgame builds, added Alej's 3base Colossus and kcdc's 3base zealot immortal instead.

Hopefully we can get the Terran and Zerg sections updated asaply!


Monk there is a typo:

Build/Style/Standard: Startale 2Base Templar
Open with a fast expansion, tech safely to High Templar to take a thread and head into the lategame


Fixed this, a few other typos, and added this:

Build/Opening: PvP HerO's Safe Stargate opening
One of LiquidHero's main builds in PvP, and one of the safest Phoenix openings possible.
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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
December 03 2012 16:51 GMT
#214
Added outdated Protoss guides, special thanks to Teoita once again.
Moderator
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 00:49:55
December 04 2012 00:42 GMT
#215
Next up is Zerg Guides! Thanks to Natalya for all the updates! Here's the list of changes for Zergs. If your Zerg guide was not included, feel free to ask about it here. We most likely just missed it. General, Terran, and 2v2 Guides incoming soon.

Removed:

Playing Zerg in SC2
Great guide to Zerg mechanics and tactics

Improving As A Low Level Zerg
For zerg players wanting to improve in a macro centric way.

Macro Efficiency
Comprehensive guide to zerg macro efficiency.

General/Overview: Vandroy's take on ZvZ
Very detailed guide on ZvZ

Build/Opening: Speedling expand
Take early map control, and expand relatively safely with this build


General/Overview: The Art of ZvT
Zerg~Legend's overview of ZvT

General/Overview: Zerg vs Terran Guide
Blade's overview of ZvT

General/Overview: Zerg versus Terran: Everything I know
Chaosvuistje's overview of ZvT

Build/Semi-Standard: Zerg vs Terran: A Roach Opener
A alternative to the common ling builds to deal with hellions

Build/All-in: The Roach/Ling/Baneling "Big Bust"
Guide to planning and executing a potent, all-in ZvT timing attack.

General/Overview: The Art of ZvP
Excellent overview of this matchup. From dealing with DT rush, to reacting to cannon cheddar, this thread has it all.

General/Overview: Zerg vs Protoss: Aiur's Armageddon
Chaosvuistje's overview of ZvP

General/Overview: ZvP Midgame guide: Fall of the First Born
Chaosvuistje's midgame guide to ZvP

General/Overview: ZvP: Gerbil's Comprehensive Guide to ZvP
Another good overview of ZvP with more of a focus on building a zerg deathball

Build/Opening: Zerg vs Protoss delayed Lair
A standard opening versus Forge Fast Expand

Build/Timing: Roach/speedling aggression
Roach ling timing versus gateway expanding protoss

Style/Standard: ZvP Roach Ling Muta
One of the most popular ZvP styles, especially effective on large maps

Added:

Opening A Guide on Early ZvZ: How to stay Alive and Set Yourself Up for the Midgame
Usefull to know how to defend a standard, non all-iny ling-bane agression when you yourself open with a standard macro build. In other words, how to defend the early, non-alliny agression with your macro build in the early game. This thread only talks about build orders, though, and does not go into the micro matters. Skip the part vs 10 pool, however, it's outdated.

Build ZvT: Get Curious : a Nydus Killer Timing

A build used by Curious (and Leenock) in GSL vs the 2 base helions-banshee opening. Could be slightly outdated now that we dont see banshee so much anymore

Opening/Build Haessebust: ZvZ Baneling All-In
One of TangSC's all-in build This one (2 gas baneling all-in) is usefull to improve your agressive baneling micro

General/Overview GM Zerg from Complexity academy ZvP guide
Fuzzy'sc2 totally amazing guide! Check this out at all cost!

Build/opening ZvZ: Roach/Ling All-In (Or is it?)
Another of TangSC's all-iny guides

General Seizing Every Edge : Zerg Economy Management
TangSC's guide about optimal drone saturation, how to reach it, reliably and rapidly counting your drones etc.

Overall ZvX : Small things that will benefit you
Small things to do to improve once your macro is ok-ish

Build/opening Zerg vs Zerg ling/infestors into ultralisks
The awesome Blade55555's guide on ZvZ. This style is hard to pull off and should be reserved to confirmed players and big maps. It has faded out of style because Z learned the counter : roach rally attack. Pro include roaches midgame when doing this style and rarely go to ultralisk anymore. It's usefull to read as a historical guide nonetheless.

Build/opening DRG's Roach/Ling/bane (Or is it?)
Another TangSC's All-In build (ZvT)

Overall Why you lose and How to win - Using apm effectively
A very cute guide on what to focus on apm-wise from bronze to master step by step.

Build ZvP 2 base nydus vs ffe
A refined build to use Nydus-cheese in ZvP

Overall Belial's Comprehensive Guide to Everything ZvT!
A ZvT guide for those of you who struggle with the match-up. However, it is possible, especially with the 6 queens opening, to take the greed to the next level. This guide also do not mention the reactored helion + banshee, which is still popular at the moment, even if terrans lately shows some tendency to ease it on the banshee part in favor of an earlier 3rd CC.

Overall Zerg vs Protoss Baneling Revolution
Blade55555's guide on Banelings to solve your mid- and lategame issues vs Protoss. Especially vs Mothership.

Build/Opening Stephano-Style ZvP- The 12 Minute Max-Out
An overview of a classic of ZvP : The so-called Stephano 12 Minutes max style. If this build at the professional level is nowadays rarely used to actually max out and bust the 3rd in ZvP, the actual build is still used as a reliable way to stop 2 base all-ins and to set yourself for a good midgame. The famous immortal all-in, though, was specifically designed to counter a build such as this 12 minutes max-out.

Build/Opening Leenock's ZvP All-In : 10 Roach Rush
An effective All-In designed to outright kill a protoss ffe.
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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
December 05 2012 20:03 GMT
#216
Updated Outdated Zerg Guides as well, thanks to Natalya
Moderator
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 14:14:18
January 14 2013 14:13 GMT
#217
Thanks to the excellent work of Jowj, we now have an updated and more organized list of General and Team game guides!
Jowj wrote:

Change Log:

Removed:
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Team Games:

2v2
General/Overview: An introduction to 2v2
A great overview of 2v2 team games

General/Overview: Overview on 2v2 Strategy
Another great overview

These were both outdated, and covered by the new teamgame guide I added.

Beginner:

Improving your SC2
Great thread filled with tonnes of information which could be useful to veterans and new players alike

Outdated. While some information may still be useful, I wouldn't recommend a new player to read this thread as rather a lot of the tips aren't useful, some are simply not relavent, and some are actually bad advise.

The Structure of An Effective Opening Build
Details the steps one should take to learn and master a build order.

Doesn't appear to be very necessary as there are several other recommended reads that cover similar material; see "analyzing replays", "how to improve" <-- both Cecil/Ver variants.

Macro Macro Macro
There's a reason the more experienced players have this mantra. Here's someone simply massing stalkers and a-moving to diamond.

Removed as it was more a proof of concept than anything worth reading. Bronze to Masters by FilterSC does a more than adequate job of covering this subject.


Advanced:

None.


Moved:
All of these were moved to the "resources" subsection.
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Writing Build Order Guides
Contribute to the Strategy Forums!

Unit Production Calculator
Figure out exactly the number of production buildings you can support on a particular number of bases

Build Order Timing Calculator
Plug details in, then gives you the optimal timing for a particular build. Generally speaking the the calculator will be faster than what you can achieve in game, but at least it gives you something to aim for.

Map Distance & Travel Time
Reference material for how long different units take to travel from 1 main to another (maps being added as they are added to the ladder pool).

~8% faster gas mining
Like worker splitting, but for your gas workers.
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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
January 17 2013 17:15 GMT
#218
Updated the Terran guides, thanks to Blazinghand. Changelog will be coming soon.
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badugib
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States80 Posts
January 21 2013 18:21 GMT
#219
protoss hotkeys 101 website is down
just started last week
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
January 23 2013 01:11 GMT
#220
On January 18 2013 02:15 monk wrote:
Updated the Terran guides, thanks to Blazinghand. Changelog will be coming soon.

How did my TvT guide get recommended? It can be viable, but it's far more difficult than the standard 1 Barracks FE into 3 barracks + reactor starport.
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