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zzz.Sleepy
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baconftw
Denmark45 Posts
On September 22 2012 20:49 zzz.Sleepy wrote: Please update! TL of all places should have the most relevant and up to date compendium of guides, builds, etc.!! I totally agree | ||
Xulton
United States10 Posts
On September 22 2012 20:49 zzz.Sleepy wrote: Please update! TL of all places should have the most relevant and up to date compendium of guides, builds, etc.!! Yeah a lot of these guides are sort of outdated now. | ||
Geiko
France1932 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 26 2012 15:17 Geiko wrote: Seems like a lot of work to update the WoL strategy section when HotS is coming in a couple of months. Not to burst your bubble or anything but hots isn't coming out for another 5 months minimum imo. If hots were to come out in 2 months my mind would be blown. It is blizzard! :D | ||
iKill
Denmark861 Posts
Like if I look up TvT builds, the only thing I find is iEchoic's TvT which has been outdated for over a year now. | ||
Geiko
France1932 Posts
On September 26 2012 15:23 blade55555 wrote: Not to burst your bubble or anything but hots isn't coming out for another 5 months minimum imo. If hots were to come out in 2 months my mind would be blown. It is blizzard! :D I want to dream :'( I don't even have a beta key, I start all my ladder games with "necessito un beta key per favor". The thought of HotS coming soon is what keeps me going | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
Also Geiko, i have been a loyal Blizzard client for 10 years, the first time i signed up for a Beta key was with TFT. And i have never, ever received one. Join the club :D | ||
IceBergZ
Malaysia176 Posts
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monk
United States8476 Posts
Hopefully we can get the Terran and Zerg sections updated asaply! | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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minimalistic
Hungary157 Posts
On December 03 2012 02:01 monk. wrote: This thread is getting some major updates, as well as the rest of the strategy forums. First up is Protoss guides. Teoita has kindly updated all the Protoss guides section so they're up to date. If you feel you wrote a good Protoss guide and would like it included, please post here. Here are the changes made today:
Hopefully we can get the Terran and Zerg sections updated asaply! Monk there is a typo: Build/Style/Standard: Startale 2Base Templar Open with a fast expansion, tech safely to High Templar to take a thread and head into the lategame | ||
monk
United States8476 Posts
On December 03 2012 02:59 minimalistic wrote: Monk there is a typo: Build/Style/Standard: Startale 2Base Templar Open with a fast expansion, tech safely to High Templar to take a thread and head into the lategame Fixed this, a few other typos, and added this: Build/Opening: PvP HerO's Safe Stargate opening One of LiquidHero's main builds in PvP, and one of the safest Phoenix openings possible. | ||
monk
United States8476 Posts
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monk
United States8476 Posts
Removed: Playing Zerg in SC2 Great guide to Zerg mechanics and tactics Improving As A Low Level Zerg For zerg players wanting to improve in a macro centric way. Macro Efficiency Comprehensive guide to zerg macro efficiency. General/Overview: Vandroy's take on ZvZ Very detailed guide on ZvZ Build/Opening: Speedling expand Take early map control, and expand relatively safely with this build General/Overview: The Art of ZvT Zerg~Legend's overview of ZvT General/Overview: Zerg vs Terran Guide Blade's overview of ZvT General/Overview: Zerg versus Terran: Everything I know Chaosvuistje's overview of ZvT Build/Semi-Standard: Zerg vs Terran: A Roach Opener A alternative to the common ling builds to deal with hellions Build/All-in: The Roach/Ling/Baneling "Big Bust" Guide to planning and executing a potent, all-in ZvT timing attack. General/Overview: The Art of ZvP Excellent overview of this matchup. From dealing with DT rush, to reacting to cannon cheddar, this thread has it all. General/Overview: Zerg vs Protoss: Aiur's Armageddon Chaosvuistje's overview of ZvP General/Overview: ZvP Midgame guide: Fall of the First Born Chaosvuistje's midgame guide to ZvP General/Overview: ZvP: Gerbil's Comprehensive Guide to ZvP Another good overview of ZvP with more of a focus on building a zerg deathball Build/Opening: Zerg vs Protoss delayed Lair A standard opening versus Forge Fast Expand Build/Timing: Roach/speedling aggression Roach ling timing versus gateway expanding protoss Style/Standard: ZvP Roach Ling Muta One of the most popular ZvP styles, especially effective on large maps Added: Opening A Guide on Early ZvZ: How to stay Alive and Set Yourself Up for the Midgame Usefull to know how to defend a standard, non all-iny ling-bane agression when you yourself open with a standard macro build. In other words, how to defend the early, non-alliny agression with your macro build in the early game. This thread only talks about build orders, though, and does not go into the micro matters. Skip the part vs 10 pool, however, it's outdated. Build ZvT: Get Curious : a Nydus Killer Timing A build used by Curious (and Leenock) in GSL vs the 2 base helions-banshee opening. Could be slightly outdated now that we dont see banshee so much anymore Opening/Build Haessebust: ZvZ Baneling All-In One of TangSC's all-in build This one (2 gas baneling all-in) is usefull to improve your agressive baneling micro General/Overview GM Zerg from Complexity academy ZvP guide Fuzzy'sc2 totally amazing guide! Check this out at all cost! Build/opening ZvZ: Roach/Ling All-In (Or is it?) Another of TangSC's all-iny guides General Seizing Every Edge : Zerg Economy Management TangSC's guide about optimal drone saturation, how to reach it, reliably and rapidly counting your drones etc. Overall ZvX : Small things that will benefit you Small things to do to improve once your macro is ok-ish Build/opening Zerg vs Zerg ling/infestors into ultralisks The awesome Blade55555's guide on ZvZ. This style is hard to pull off and should be reserved to confirmed players and big maps. It has faded out of style because Z learned the counter : roach rally attack. Pro include roaches midgame when doing this style and rarely go to ultralisk anymore. It's usefull to read as a historical guide nonetheless. Build/opening DRG's Roach/Ling/bane (Or is it?) Another TangSC's All-In build (ZvT) Overall Why you lose and How to win - Using apm effectively A very cute guide on what to focus on apm-wise from bronze to master step by step. Build ZvP 2 base nydus vs ffe A refined build to use Nydus-cheese in ZvP Overall Belial's Comprehensive Guide to Everything ZvT! A ZvT guide for those of you who struggle with the match-up. However, it is possible, especially with the 6 queens opening, to take the greed to the next level. This guide also do not mention the reactored helion + banshee, which is still popular at the moment, even if terrans lately shows some tendency to ease it on the banshee part in favor of an earlier 3rd CC. Overall Zerg vs Protoss Baneling Revolution Blade55555's guide on Banelings to solve your mid- and lategame issues vs Protoss. Especially vs Mothership. Build/Opening Stephano-Style ZvP- The 12 Minute Max-Out An overview of a classic of ZvP : The so-called Stephano 12 Minutes max style. If this build at the professional level is nowadays rarely used to actually max out and bust the 3rd in ZvP, the actual build is still used as a reliable way to stop 2 base all-ins and to set yourself for a good midgame. The famous immortal all-in, though, was specifically designed to counter a build such as this 12 minutes max-out. Build/Opening Leenock's ZvP All-In : 10 Roach Rush An effective All-In designed to outright kill a protoss ffe. | ||
monk
United States8476 Posts
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monk
United States8476 Posts
Jowj wrote: Change Log: Removed: + Show Spoiler + Team Games: 2v2 General/Overview: An introduction to 2v2 A great overview of 2v2 team games General/Overview: Overview on 2v2 Strategy Another great overview These were both outdated, and covered by the new teamgame guide I added. Beginner: Improving your SC2 Great thread filled with tonnes of information which could be useful to veterans and new players alike Outdated. While some information may still be useful, I wouldn't recommend a new player to read this thread as rather a lot of the tips aren't useful, some are simply not relavent, and some are actually bad advise. The Structure of An Effective Opening Build Details the steps one should take to learn and master a build order. Doesn't appear to be very necessary as there are several other recommended reads that cover similar material; see "analyzing replays", "how to improve" <-- both Cecil/Ver variants. Macro Macro Macro There's a reason the more experienced players have this mantra. Here's someone simply massing stalkers and a-moving to diamond. Removed as it was more a proof of concept than anything worth reading. Bronze to Masters by FilterSC does a more than adequate job of covering this subject. Advanced: None. Moved: All of these were moved to the "resources" subsection. + Show Spoiler + Writing Build Order Guides Contribute to the Strategy Forums! Unit Production Calculator Figure out exactly the number of production buildings you can support on a particular number of bases Build Order Timing Calculator Plug details in, then gives you the optimal timing for a particular build. Generally speaking the the calculator will be faster than what you can achieve in game, but at least it gives you something to aim for. Map Distance & Travel Time Reference material for how long different units take to travel from 1 main to another (maps being added as they are added to the ladder pool). ~8% faster gas mining Like worker splitting, but for your gas workers. | ||
monk
United States8476 Posts
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badugib
United States80 Posts
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
On January 18 2013 02:15 monk wrote: Updated the Terran guides, thanks to Blazinghand. Changelog will be coming soon. How did my TvT guide get recommended? It can be viable, but it's far more difficult than the standard 1 Barracks FE into 3 barracks + reactor starport. | ||
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