EPTLong story short: Sexy and more importantly clever play by IdrA. Who needs Roaches when you can be cute and precise in your attacks and overall moves?!
NonY Vs. IdrA (Spoiler alert) strat discussion - Page 4
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misterG420
Germany152 Posts
Long story short: Sexy and more importantly clever play by IdrA. Who needs Roaches when you can be cute and precise in your attacks and overall moves?! | ||
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
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KaiserJohan
Sweden1808 Posts
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Lollersauce
United States357 Posts
On May 17 2010 16:46 lopper wrote: Long story short: Sexy and more importantly clever play by IdrA. Who needs Roaches when you can be cute and precise in your attacks and overall moves?! Yeah who needs a variety of viable combat units when a pro player can win with 2? That sure makes the game more interesting! lololol. | ||
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GoDannY
Germany442 Posts
I watched the game live and my impression was, sure enough your build was well planned, with the recent nerf to sentries the sentrie push itself does not pull out enough damage without having enough damage dealers around. I felt like the game on Kulas Ravine was a prime example for that - what is your opinion about that? | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Nony delivered too but as he said made some crucial mistakes. Don't read too much into balance from this. We're seeing really good play but we're a long way away from fantastic play; the likes of which we see every week in PL etc.. Nony miscontrolled his army a few times, uncharacteristically. Unlike BW I find that Protoss has more actions that Zerg in SC2 which makes the multi-tasking really tough. With Practice Nony will get there. Idra used some of Zergs powerful gimmicks in that game but he could've added banelings and infestors to complete the Zerg arsenal. | ||
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DamageInq
United States283 Posts
Also, on a lot of maps you can walk right by the spine crawlers and take out a large number of drones at his main with a small group of zealots. If you know you've failed there then you're behind, it's going to be hard to catch up by expanding, I think your best bet would be a timing push with ~1 immortal then expanding while he recovers. | ||
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r4ptur3
United States30 Posts
On May 17 2010 18:58 KaiserJohan wrote: Alright, so there are no VODS or replays available yet, but how come everyone already know exactly how the games were played out? Were they present on the tourny`? The tournaments were streamed live on HD/Huskys ustream channel (I forget which). | ||
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FuryX
Australia495 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On May 17 2010 21:29 FuryX wrote: Did Idra go up against Terran in this Tourney? Why did they mix up mirror matches in the early run...could have swapped things around. To ensure the later rounds have no mirror matches. Hint: If QF = PvP and ZvZ, SF = ZvP. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On May 17 2010 22:04 Slayer91 wrote: To ensure the later rounds have no mirror matches. Hint: If QF = PvP and ZvZ, SF = ZvP. But they almost had a PvP in the final round | ||
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s031720
Sweden383 Posts
If my suggestion above dosent work, work to become a better player and youll see that you will beat masshydra consistently. (which in turn will force the z-player to become smarter and thus the evolution begins). | ||
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gREIFOCs
Argentina208 Posts
A lack of profiting from won battles, when Nony walled himself in at Hydras base, he should have commited with one task, the Hatchery or the Drones. But his units where all over the place hitting random units, buildings, even at some times eggs. And the 2 fronts attacks that Hydra used were really effective. First with the ling filtration thing, after with the denied third expo that controled his army positioning with a simultaneous drop. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On May 17 2010 12:14 Mogget wrote: in game 2 he was actually disadvantaged by it, if it had been a normal sized ramp a single forcefield could have kept every hydra out at a time, instead, he needed 3 forcfields per go. When you count sentries and the mobility of zerg, smaller chokes deffinatly favour a toss. You are talking about a situational advantage, not map advantage. Map advantage is always available such as a cliff over seeing expo is good for tanks and turbo noob, short rush distance is harder to set up defense before the attack comes. Taking the map advantage means using building order to abuse the map's features. Situational advantage with force field requires both positioning of the sentry and the positioning of the opposing army to work. the zerg does not need to fight near the ramp nor a choke, it is up to the players to decide/realize when/how/where to create an advantageous situation. Situational advantage is not always available. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On May 17 2010 21:29 FuryX wrote: Did Idra go up against Terran in this Tourney? Why did they mix up mirror matches in the early run...could have swapped things around. They invited three Terrans (out of 16). Two were knocked out in the Ro16 and one was knocked out in the Ro8. This was before the Terran buffs and meta-game changes that really made Terrans a force to contend with, so it's not unexpected. IdrA was also probably deliberately put in the same bracket as ret, orb, LzGamer, and Nony, for the potential drama factor. He never managed to meet LzGamer, though, because ret did an amazing upset in the Ro16. | ||
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Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
maybe they should just fix all games beforehand, then all mirror matchs could be avoided............. | ||
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prochobo
United States232 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9408 Posts
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Champi
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TLOBrian
United States453 Posts
Build a bunch of shit. A-move. ^ Idra's build. | ||
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