EPTdont get me wrong, Idra is a GREAT player. but he did have that advantage
NonY Vs. IdrA (Spoiler alert) strat discussion - Page 3
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italiangymnast
United States246 Posts
dont get me wrong, Idra is a GREAT player. but he did have that advantage | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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jdc214
United States122 Posts
Edit: I am biased towards Nony just because I like him, his playstyle, and his race more. ^_^ | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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BigDatez
Canada434 Posts
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jdc214
United States122 Posts
On May 17 2010 10:52 rei wrote: no map advantage. Because same thing goes for idra too, in game 1 nony was able to run pass the spine crawlers and idra had to survived by pure lings. In both game 1 and game 2 nony took advantage of the wide choke. Thanks Rei, you're right and I do appreciate the help in educating myself. :D | ||
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santoki
United States107 Posts
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jeremysaint
Canada80 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25990 Posts
On May 17 2010 06:18 Entropia wrote: I've looked at all game, everytime NonY was making very nice moves, well placed force field, nice phoenix control (killed how many overlord?) abut everytime the mass hydra was winning. Nothing more, nothing less. It seems to me that zerg FE is very hard to beat if you don't try something risky (void ray rush, immortal push). What do you think about it? I think you should look harder. | ||
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Zerokaiser
Canada885 Posts
On May 17 2010 11:12 santoki wrote: can anyone give a rough build order that idra did? thatd be great =] since no replays are going to be available T^T He did 15pool 16hatch, speedlings into mass hydra | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On May 17 2010 11:38 Zerokaiser wrote: He did 15pool 16hatch, speedlings into mass hydra Did he double evo chamber every game? I couldn't really tell. Upgrades seemed to be very important to his BO. | ||
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Kegs.aus
Australia133 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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Raneth
England527 Posts
On May 17 2010 10:52 rei wrote: no map advantage. Because same thing goes for idra too, in game 1 nony was able to run pass the spine crawlers and idra had to survived by pure lings. In both game 1 and game 2 nony took advantage of the wide choke. in game 2 he was actually disadvantaged by it, if it had been a normal sized ramp a single forcefield could have kept every hydra out at a time, instead, he needed 3 forcfields per go. When you count sentries and the mobility of zerg, smaller chokes deffinatly favour a toss. | ||
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Polygamy
Austria1114 Posts
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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pheus
Australia161 Posts
On May 17 2010 12:45 0neder wrote: Idra sure brings it when big cash is on the line. Where is Smuft, and when is the big one going down? pretty sure that got called off | ||
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s031720
Sweden383 Posts
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Nitron
Singapore177 Posts
On May 17 2010 12:14 Mogget wrote: in game 2 he was actually disadvantaged by it, if it had been a normal sized ramp a single forcefield could have kept every hydra out at a time, instead, he needed 3 forcfields per go. When you count sentries and the mobility of zerg, smaller chokes deffinatly favour a toss. In game 2 NonY alr admitted that it was a mistake to keep the hydras out in the first place, his build was to pick off hydras using the forcefield. In that game even if the lair did go down, Idra would have still won. However if we talk about map advantage, big maps tend to favour Idra because he is a macro player, and all 3 games were big maps (scrap station being long rush distance). The HDH should have a big map as first game, and small map as second or sth like that | ||
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Raneth
England527 Posts
On May 17 2010 16:02 Nitron wrote: In game 2 NonY alr admitted that it was a mistake to keep the hydras out in the first place, his build was to pick off hydras using the forcefield. In that game even if the lair did go down, Idra would have still won. However if we talk about map advantage, big maps tend to favour Idra because he is a macro player, and all 3 games were big maps (scrap station being long rush distance). The HDH should have a big map as first game, and small map as second or sth like that thats not what i said, i was just correcting someone, i never said that was why he lost, im just saying, smaller chokes favour toss. Also, not sure about big maps favouring idra, nony has insane mechanics aswell. | ||
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