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now can we lynch grack/pandain and get off my ballsack, thanks
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On September 19 2013 00:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
now can we lynch grack/pandain and get off my ballsack, thanks
I see no reason why we shouldn't.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Grackaroni
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On September 19 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2013 23:58 Grackaroni wrote:On September 18 2013 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 18 2013 23:50 Grackaroni wrote:On September 18 2013 23:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 18 2013 23:36 Grackaroni wrote:On September 18 2013 23:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Grackaroni actually after re-examining the end of D1 your vote-switch is fucking suspicious. You have your vote on scum. Then you sheep Pandain (your former scumread) to someone else because "he made some good posts and you think he is town". Because he had valid points and confidently expressed them. The manner in which Oats/WoS/Umasi planted their votes on BH at the time and then disappeared when nobody was pushing hard for his lynch with a well-written case made me think it was more likely that some players in that group were scum just pawning off their vote and that it was not a scum lynch. First of all it was me/Umasi/WoS who voted for OP at thet time. Oats had voted earlier, and gave reasons for his vote, the reasons were good. You also did agree with me earlier on when i talked about OP! What you just said is simply not true. ...as for OP, most of my reasoning is coming from Rayn but I did say before my dislike of OP's posting and added in my own points. Then there is this: On September 14 2013 06:51 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm voting Zealous. Pandain is town and he has good points. What exactly were those good points Pandain brought up? you voting for OP wasn't a suspicious vote because you had already started the case on him earlier in your filter. Oats kind of pushed him earlier but not nearly enough to convince others to vote for him. The big post Pandain made about the votes falling in on OP too easily and the lack of people vocally defending OP. And you bought that at face value given that: 1) You were suspicious of Pandain 2) Pandain was right there defending OP 3) At early on in the game when i voted for OP and gave my reasoning (which was in fact exactly what made people vote for him in the end) there were a lot of people arguing against OP being scum. Makes sense how? 1 and 2) Scum basically never come out like this and start hard defending a teammate this vocally. They think it will make them appear too scummy. 3) I don't remember anyone arguing that they thought Op wasn't scum except Koshi. Okay this is the chain of events in chronological order: You change your vote on OP and give a reasoning for it. Oats makes a case on OP and votes for him. Then me/Umasi/WoS vote for OP. You have a scumread on SnB and Pandain. SnB starts a wagon on Zealos. Pandain joins the Zealos wagon and says "there is no resistance to OP lynch". What do you do after that? You agree with you scumread on a wagon that's been pushed by your other scumread! for what, "because there is no resistance on the dude's lynch i think is scum, besides the other two dudes i think are scum". What do you need, do your town reads need to oppose a scumlynch for you to think the lynch is in fact on scum? Your voting behavior on D1 makes absolutely zero sense.
I even indicated earlier that Zealos was scummy and that I was going to consider switching on to him. Pandain's post and the easy flow of unexpected vote were enough to make me uncomfortable with the lynch and prompted me to switch. What doesn't make sense?
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Actually your right, if Vayne was role blocked he couldn't have shot. Doesn't change the fact that Zealos is still the best lynch.
Don't understand how you can defend someone who's play so drastically differs from his town play in previous games. Zealos isn't a town lurker, or at least a town non contributing person. He's a mafia one, etc mtg mafia.
Why would you go off worse reads when blue roles will provide us more info later on
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If I had been there and had written out a well reasoned case on why OP was scum and pushed it to the thread or if you had done the same then I would have stayed, but I didn't expect him as scum to have been getting those votes without someone pushing for him hard.
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On September 19 2013 00:27 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 18 2013 23:58 Grackaroni wrote:On September 18 2013 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 18 2013 23:50 Grackaroni wrote:On September 18 2013 23:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 18 2013 23:36 Grackaroni wrote:On September 18 2013 23:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Grackaroni actually after re-examining the end of D1 your vote-switch is fucking suspicious. You have your vote on scum. Then you sheep Pandain (your former scumread) to someone else because "he made some good posts and you think he is town". Because he had valid points and confidently expressed them. The manner in which Oats/WoS/Umasi planted their votes on BH at the time and then disappeared when nobody was pushing hard for his lynch with a well-written case made me think it was more likely that some players in that group were scum just pawning off their vote and that it was not a scum lynch. First of all it was me/Umasi/WoS who voted for OP at thet time. Oats had voted earlier, and gave reasons for his vote, the reasons were good. You also did agree with me earlier on when i talked about OP! What you just said is simply not true. ...as for OP, most of my reasoning is coming from Rayn but I did say before my dislike of OP's posting and added in my own points. Then there is this: On September 14 2013 06:51 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm voting Zealous. Pandain is town and he has good points. What exactly were those good points Pandain brought up? you voting for OP wasn't a suspicious vote because you had already started the case on him earlier in your filter. Oats kind of pushed him earlier but not nearly enough to convince others to vote for him. The big post Pandain made about the votes falling in on OP too easily and the lack of people vocally defending OP. And you bought that at face value given that: 1) You were suspicious of Pandain 2) Pandain was right there defending OP 3) At early on in the game when i voted for OP and gave my reasoning (which was in fact exactly what made people vote for him in the end) there were a lot of people arguing against OP being scum. Makes sense how? 1 and 2) Scum basically never come out like this and start hard defending a teammate this vocally. They think it will make them appear too scummy. 3) I don't remember anyone arguing that they thought Op wasn't scum except Koshi. Okay this is the chain of events in chronological order: You change your vote on OP and give a reasoning for it. Oats makes a case on OP and votes for him. Then me/Umasi/WoS vote for OP. You have a scumread on SnB and Pandain. SnB starts a wagon on Zealos. Pandain joins the Zealos wagon and says "there is no resistance to OP lynch". What do you do after that? You agree with you scumread on a wagon that's been pushed by your other scumread! for what, "because there is no resistance on the dude's lynch i think is scum, besides the other two dudes i think are scum". What do you need, do your town reads need to oppose a scumlynch for you to think the lynch is in fact on scum? Your voting behavior on D1 makes absolutely zero sense. I even indicated earlier that Zealos was scummy and that I was going to consider switching on to him. Pandain's post and the easy flow of unexpected vote were enough to make me uncomfortable with the lynch and prompted me to switch. What doesn't make sense?
It doesn't make sense that you have three scumreads. OP, Pandain, SnB. You switch from your scumread to another person who is pushed by both of your other scumreads, while the wagon you were on has zero scumreads of yours.. The reasoning is "noone is agruing against OP lynch". :p
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On September 18 2013 23:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
I just spent the last 5 pages explaining it, you can't be serious right? read the thread moron
Look guys, I know things get heated up sometimes, when playing. But I have repeatedly asked you to keep the tone down. This is really my last warning on insults. Next one will get modkilled as soon as I see the post.
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On September 19 2013 00:24 Sn0_Man wrote:
Cursory analysis of the voting reveals that zealos literally cannot be scum. 3p yes, scum no.
I do like how pandain is going after the 3 easiest targets in the thread though. Note how Kush was the preferred mislynch of BH since day1 and most of his reads lined up with Koshi's (who was killed last night). Kush is also confirmed town. Vayne looks bad but he can't be SK and his play looked like SK more than scum to me.
Try again panda.
I don't know what you mean. I see four town one scum on him day one with mafia gf voting him to save himself. Day two two town and desperate BH.
Kush was never pushed by BH, only laid a single vote which never ended up threatening kush. I was the one behind that effort and while acknowledging Kush looked scummy never actually wanted to lynch him or pushed him despite being then clearly suspicious.
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On September 19 2013 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 00:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
now can we lynch grack/pandain and get off my ballsack, thanks I see no reason why we shouldn't. ##Unvote:
##Vote: Grackaroni
what?
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Lets lynch scum team
On September 19 2013 00:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
##Vote: Pandain
Also grack your vote was actually the grossest thing in history but pandain is scummier.
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On September 19 2013 00:29 Pandain wrote:
Actually your right, if Vayne was role blocked he couldn't have shot. Doesn't change the fact that Zealos is still the best lynch.
Don't understand how you can defend someone who's play so drastically differs from his town play in previous games. Zealos isn't a town lurker, or at least a town non contributing person. He's a mafia one, etc mtg mafia.
Why would you go off worse reads when blue roles will provide us more info later on
Zealos might be SK but i want to lynch scum now because it gives us better connections to the last scum. Zealos is not mafia because of D1 votes.
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On September 19 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 00:29 Pandain wrote:
Actually your right, if Vayne was role blocked he couldn't have shot. Doesn't change the fact that Zealos is still the best lynch.
Don't understand how you can defend someone who's play so drastically differs from his town play in previous games. Zealos isn't a town lurker, or at least a town non contributing person. He's a mafia one, etc mtg mafia.
Why would you go off worse reads when blue roles will provide us more info later on Zealos might be SK but i want to lynch scum now because it gives us better connections to the last scum. Zealos is not mafia because of D1 votes.
If you think Zealos is sk then lynch him to lower kp. He also can clearly be mafia to day one votes and you ignore context otherwise.
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On September 19 2013 00:34 ShiaoPi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2013 23:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
I just spent the last 5 pages explaining it, you can't be serious right? read the thread moron Look guys, I know things get heated up sometimes, when playing. But I have repeatedly asked you to keep the tone down. This is really my last warning on insults. Next one will get modkilled as soon as I see the post.
You don't need to bother with me. I don't take it personally. Although i agree in general.
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Hmmm. Wait. Didn't I want to lynch the SK? that guy is dibbers.
SHRUG.
Not certain enough about him being SK 
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Day 3 Votecount:
Zealos(1): raynpelikoneet, Umas, Pandain
kushm4sta(2): Papa_Smurf, Umasi
VayneAuthority(1): raynpelikoneet, Oatsmaster
Grackaroni(2): raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority
Pandain(1): Sn0_Man
Currently kushm4sta is set to be lynched (hit 2 votes first) ! Remember, voting is mandatory!
Next deadline:
Deadline date: Thursday, Sep 19 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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On September 19 2013 00:38 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 19 2013 00:29 Pandain wrote:
Actually your right, if Vayne was role blocked he couldn't have shot. Doesn't change the fact that Zealos is still the best lynch.
Don't understand how you can defend someone who's play so drastically differs from his town play in previous games. Zealos isn't a town lurker, or at least a town non contributing person. He's a mafia one, etc mtg mafia.
Why would you go off worse reads when blue roles will provide us more info later on Zealos might be SK but i want to lynch scum now because it gives us better connections to the last scum. Zealos is not mafia because of D1 votes. If you think Zealos is sk then lynch him to lower kp. He also can clearly be mafia to day one votes and you ignore context otherwise.
Okay so Zealos is mafia and Blazinghand last minute switches to lynch a scumbuddy instead of lynching town!blubbers? Bullshiiiiitttt..
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Umasi please recognize my reasoning.
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On September 19 2013 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 00:27 Grackaroni wrote:On September 19 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 18 2013 23:58 Grackaroni wrote:On September 18 2013 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 18 2013 23:50 Grackaroni wrote:On September 18 2013 23:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 18 2013 23:36 Grackaroni wrote:On September 18 2013 23:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Grackaroni actually after re-examining the end of D1 your vote-switch is fucking suspicious. You have your vote on scum. Then you sheep Pandain (your former scumread) to someone else because "he made some good posts and you think he is town". Because he had valid points and confidently expressed them. The manner in which Oats/WoS/Umasi planted their votes on BH at the time and then disappeared when nobody was pushing hard for his lynch with a well-written case made me think it was more likely that some players in that group were scum just pawning off their vote and that it was not a scum lynch. First of all it was me/Umasi/WoS who voted for OP at thet time. Oats had voted earlier, and gave reasons for his vote, the reasons were good. You also did agree with me earlier on when i talked about OP! What you just said is simply not true. ...as for OP, most of my reasoning is coming from Rayn but I did say before my dislike of OP's posting and added in my own points. Then there is this: On September 14 2013 06:51 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm voting Zealous. Pandain is town and he has good points. What exactly were those good points Pandain brought up? you voting for OP wasn't a suspicious vote because you had already started the case on him earlier in your filter. Oats kind of pushed him earlier but not nearly enough to convince others to vote for him. The big post Pandain made about the votes falling in on OP too easily and the lack of people vocally defending OP. And you bought that at face value given that: 1) You were suspicious of Pandain 2) Pandain was right there defending OP 3) At early on in the game when i voted for OP and gave my reasoning (which was in fact exactly what made people vote for him in the end) there were a lot of people arguing against OP being scum. Makes sense how? 1 and 2) Scum basically never come out like this and start hard defending a teammate this vocally. They think it will make them appear too scummy. 3) I don't remember anyone arguing that they thought Op wasn't scum except Koshi. Okay this is the chain of events in chronological order: You change your vote on OP and give a reasoning for it. Oats makes a case on OP and votes for him. Then me/Umasi/WoS vote for OP. You have a scumread on SnB and Pandain. SnB starts a wagon on Zealos. Pandain joins the Zealos wagon and says "there is no resistance to OP lynch". What do you do after that? You agree with you scumread on a wagon that's been pushed by your other scumread! for what, "because there is no resistance on the dude's lynch i think is scum, besides the other two dudes i think are scum". What do you need, do your town reads need to oppose a scumlynch for you to think the lynch is in fact on scum? Your voting behavior on D1 makes absolutely zero sense. I even indicated earlier that Zealos was scummy and that I was going to consider switching on to him. Pandain's post and the easy flow of unexpected vote were enough to make me uncomfortable with the lynch and prompted me to switch. What doesn't make sense? It doesn't make sense that you have three scumreads. OP, Pandain, SnB. You switch from your scumread to another person who is pushed by both of your other scumreads, while the wagon you were on has zero scumreads of yours.. The reasoning is "noone is agruing against OP lynch". :p
ugh, It's so obvious that I wasn't suspicious of Pandain anymore because of the posts he was making when I switched on to Zealos. I'm pretty sure I even directly wrote that guy is town. i think even you agreed that Pandain was likely town from those posts pushing people off of the BH wagon.
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ok I apologize about the language but seriously, rayn asked me the same questions in 2 posts that I just spent like an hour of time talking about in a few pages before. That's not the game getting heated, thats just illiteracy ruining the game/spam
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