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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 29 2014 23:57 GMT
#661
On August 30 2014 08:55 HorsemasterK wrote:
For what its worth, there are prolly big changes coming to CLG:

"HotshotGG ‏@CLG_HotshotGG 11m

I won't let this happen ever again. I knew all the answers but never acted on them. Change will come, I promise."


liftlift > tsm
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 29 2014 23:58 GMT
#662
On August 30 2014 08:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:40 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:27 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:09 Swords wrote:
[quote]

Tweeted at Odee that Dig didn't know how to play LoL at the start of the season.

Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.

lol, a facade? Rofl, he's still a great analyst, he has very strong understanding of the game, you can just tell from watching his OGN casting. Now how effective can he be for CLG when he's on the other side of the world? Not enough, clearly. Player ego's too fucking inflated to listen without someone standing right over them and dictating what they need to do.

On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.



Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


to be fair, everyone fucking said the exact same shit on TL, after all the trades played out.

All right, you can not act like the saviour of CLG, talk big about how you will perform at worlds, talk shit about other teams and coaches, then when you fail miserable, blame it on longdistance coaching and whatnot. Jesus, if it's not wroking for more than a year, then leave, and if it does, then don't make excuses for such shameful losses and performance.

He's clearly a fail coach, and the lack of the korean bootcamp mentions in the last pages disturb me. Korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp. There.
Anyway, Monte played a dangerous game, which worked initially because it took some time to be proved that he's a failure of a coach. But now it's all biting back at him, like the ragekiddo who is laughing at your team in all chat at the 20th minute "haha, surr noobs, it's 30-12 for us, so ez, surr surr ahahaha". You don't say anything, you might even believe he is good, but eventually you realise he's jsut your regular riven who got fed but he's actually worthless, and when you finally win, it's your team's time to shift+enter.

You do know why they went to Korea right? It was either stay in NA scriming WITHOUT Seraph, cuz Visa.
or go to Korea to scrim with Seraph, and be with Monte. Having Koreans to scrim is a bonus.

Now if you want to say his coaching is ineffective, go right ahead. I agree, can't do much when you have a team who's players have the ego's the size of the sun, and your coach is fucking across the pacific ocean. How well can you really fucking coach?


I know, and this last game showed how important it was to practice with Seraph. If LoL had a ward sign with "kill this guy, i really don'T care" written all over it, the game would've started with every clg member putting that ward to toplane. In the other's team tower vision, of course.

And you are doing it again, making longdistance coaching an excuse. If you can't cach them properly then don't do it, jesus. It's like, if I'm put to CLG's coaching position tomorrow and they will get relegated, will you defend me saying "well, guys, but don'T attack Volband, how could he coach them well if he can't coach at all?". This is how ridiculous that arguement sounds. Don't take the damn job then. It has responsibilities, you don't see other coaches in different sports pointing fingers. "Yeah, we got knocked out, but to be honest I can't even practice with my team rofl, so what did yo uguys expect? Don't hate me, not my fault."
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 30 2014 00:00 GMT
#663
Wow that deft tier culling from megaJP
Glorious SEA doto
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 30 2014 00:01 GMT
#664
hotshot took the hand-off approach this season and left everything in kelby's hand while he was the silent owner, but in the end it's still his baby and business. Him getting back in charge and hopefully actually taking actions, can only improve clg considering they already hit dead bottom.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 30 2014 00:01 GMT
#665
On August 30 2014 08:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:40 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:27 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:09 Swords wrote:
[quote]

Tweeted at Odee that Dig didn't know how to play LoL at the start of the season.

Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.

lol, a facade? Rofl, he's still a great analyst, he has very strong understanding of the game, you can just tell from watching his OGN casting. Now how effective can he be for CLG when he's on the other side of the world? Not enough, clearly. Player ego's too fucking inflated to listen without someone standing right over them and dictating what they need to do.

On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/423259211162595329

Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


to be fair, everyone fucking said the exact same shit on TL, after all the trades played out.

All right, you can not act like the saviour of CLG, talk big about how you will perform at worlds, talk shit about other teams and coaches, then when you fail miserable, blame it on longdistance coaching and whatnot. Jesus, if it's not wroking for more than a year, then leave, and if it does, then don't make excuses for such shameful losses and performance.

He's clearly a fail coach, and the lack of the korean bootcamp mentions in the last pages disturb me. Korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp. There.
Anyway, Monte played a dangerous game, which worked initially because it took some time to be proved that he's a failure of a coach. But now it's all biting back at him, like the ragekiddo who is laughing at your team in all chat at the 20th minute "haha, surr noobs, it's 30-12 for us, so ez, surr surr ahahaha". You don't say anything, you might even believe he is good, but eventually you realise he's jsut your regular riven who got fed but he's actually worthless, and when you finally win, it's your team's time to shift+enter.

You do know why they went to Korea right? It was either stay in NA scriming WITHOUT Seraph, cuz Visa.
or go to Korea to scrim with Seraph, and be with Monte. Having Koreans to scrim is a bonus.

Monte has never acted as the savior of CLG. Gimme a quote from his mouth, that says so. He's always mentioned he can't be a fully effective coach because CLG simply doesn't pay enough to make it worth it to do so, he also mentioned that this has been a learning process for him too. It just so happened he was one of the first high profile analyst/coach for NA.

I think the best prediction he got for CLG at worlds is maybe get lucky with group placement, and bracket, and maybe beat some EU team if they're lucky as fuck. Otherwise get crushed by China and Korea.

As far as shit talking teams, none of it has been out of the line in comparison to what is standard in the scene. He only has the benefit of having more authority behind his opinions by being one of the best color commentators in LoL. He also explains a lot of his "shit talk", he backs it up with fairly well formed thoughts, regardless if they come true or not. It's also not like he's calling people frauds, with no evidence to back it, unlike some well known public figure who owns one of the biggest western organizations.

Now if you want to say his coaching is ineffective, go right ahead. I agree, can't do much when you have a team who's players have the ego's the size of the sun, and your coach is fucking across the pacific ocean. How well can you really fucking coach?






Monte never claimed to be the saviour of CLG, but like I have mentioned, he may have placed too much faith on CLG to perform against other teams he talked down (see: TSM, Dignitas, Curse, LMQ). Due to all the flak he gave to Curse and Dignitas, and how both teams (convincingly?) beat CLG, it looks really bad on Monte.

https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 00:03:16
August 30 2014 00:01 GMT
#666
On August 30 2014 08:58 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:40 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:27 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
[quote]
Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.

lol, a facade? Rofl, he's still a great analyst, he has very strong understanding of the game, you can just tell from watching his OGN casting. Now how effective can he be for CLG when he's on the other side of the world? Not enough, clearly. Player ego's too fucking inflated to listen without someone standing right over them and dictating what they need to do.

On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/423259211162595329

Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


to be fair, everyone fucking said the exact same shit on TL, after all the trades played out.

All right, you can not act like the saviour of CLG, talk big about how you will perform at worlds, talk shit about other teams and coaches, then when you fail miserable, blame it on longdistance coaching and whatnot. Jesus, if it's not wroking for more than a year, then leave, and if it does, then don't make excuses for such shameful losses and performance.

He's clearly a fail coach, and the lack of the korean bootcamp mentions in the last pages disturb me. Korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp. There.
Anyway, Monte played a dangerous game, which worked initially because it took some time to be proved that he's a failure of a coach. But now it's all biting back at him, like the ragekiddo who is laughing at your team in all chat at the 20th minute "haha, surr noobs, it's 30-12 for us, so ez, surr surr ahahaha". You don't say anything, you might even believe he is good, but eventually you realise he's jsut your regular riven who got fed but he's actually worthless, and when you finally win, it's your team's time to shift+enter.

You do know why they went to Korea right? It was either stay in NA scriming WITHOUT Seraph, cuz Visa.
or go to Korea to scrim with Seraph, and be with Monte. Having Koreans to scrim is a bonus.

Now if you want to say his coaching is ineffective, go right ahead. I agree, can't do much when you have a team who's players have the ego's the size of the sun, and your coach is fucking across the pacific ocean. How well can you really fucking coach?


I know, and this last game showed how important it was to practice with Seraph. If LoL had a ward sign with "kill this guy, i really don'T care" written all over it, the game would've started with every clg member putting that ward to toplane. In the other's team tower vision, of course.

And you are doing it again, making longdistance coaching an excuse. If you can't cach them properly then don't do it, jesus. It's like, if I'm put to CLG's coaching position tomorrow and they will get relegated, will you defend me saying "well, guys, but don'T attack Volband, how could he coach them well if he can't coach at all?". This is how ridiculous that arguement sounds. Don't take the damn job then. It has responsibilities, you don't see other coaches in different sports pointing fingers. "Yeah, we got knocked out, but to be honest I can't even practice with my team rofl, so what did yo uguys expect? Don't hate me, not my fault."

Just imagine CLG without Monte. lol. It would be even worse.
Also it's not like Monte hasn't had an effect, CLG played pretty strongly during season, it's not like they completely ate shit all fucking season and died. Even when they first had him in the house for like 2 weeks, a while back, you could visibly see the difference in the way they played. The games got a lot shorter, instead of going "lol wait 40min for DL to carry", they switched over to have the team with the fastest wins in the league.
On August 30 2014 09:01 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:40 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:27 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
[quote]
Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.

lol, a facade? Rofl, he's still a great analyst, he has very strong understanding of the game, you can just tell from watching his OGN casting. Now how effective can he be for CLG when he's on the other side of the world? Not enough, clearly. Player ego's too fucking inflated to listen without someone standing right over them and dictating what they need to do.

On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/423259211162595329

Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


to be fair, everyone fucking said the exact same shit on TL, after all the trades played out.

All right, you can not act like the saviour of CLG, talk big about how you will perform at worlds, talk shit about other teams and coaches, then when you fail miserable, blame it on longdistance coaching and whatnot. Jesus, if it's not wroking for more than a year, then leave, and if it does, then don't make excuses for such shameful losses and performance.

He's clearly a fail coach, and the lack of the korean bootcamp mentions in the last pages disturb me. Korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp. There.
Anyway, Monte played a dangerous game, which worked initially because it took some time to be proved that he's a failure of a coach. But now it's all biting back at him, like the ragekiddo who is laughing at your team in all chat at the 20th minute "haha, surr noobs, it's 30-12 for us, so ez, surr surr ahahaha". You don't say anything, you might even believe he is good, but eventually you realise he's jsut your regular riven who got fed but he's actually worthless, and when you finally win, it's your team's time to shift+enter.

You do know why they went to Korea right? It was either stay in NA scriming WITHOUT Seraph, cuz Visa.
or go to Korea to scrim with Seraph, and be with Monte. Having Koreans to scrim is a bonus.

Monte has never acted as the savior of CLG. Gimme a quote from his mouth, that says so. He's always mentioned he can't be a fully effective coach because CLG simply doesn't pay enough to make it worth it to do so, he also mentioned that this has been a learning process for him too. It just so happened he was one of the first high profile analyst/coach for NA.

I think the best prediction he got for CLG at worlds is maybe get lucky with group placement, and bracket, and maybe beat some EU team if they're lucky as fuck. Otherwise get crushed by China and Korea.

As far as shit talking teams, none of it has been out of the line in comparison to what is standard in the scene. He only has the benefit of having more authority behind his opinions by being one of the best color commentators in LoL. He also explains a lot of his "shit talk", he backs it up with fairly well formed thoughts, regardless if they come true or not. It's also not like he's calling people frauds, with no evidence to back it, unlike some well known public figure who owns one of the biggest western organizations.

Now if you want to say his coaching is ineffective, go right ahead. I agree, can't do much when you have a team who's players have the ego's the size of the sun, and your coach is fucking across the pacific ocean. How well can you really fucking coach?






Monte never claimed to be the saviour of CLG, but like I have mentioned, he may have placed too much faith on CLG to perform against other teams he talked down (see: TSM, Dignitas, Curse, LMQ). Due to all the flak he gave to Curse and Dignitas, and how both teams (convincingly?) beat CLG, it looks really bad on Monte.


Yeah, this is probably the most accurate representation of what happened.
liftlift > tsm
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 00:03:28
August 30 2014 00:02 GMT
#667
I wish I was as vocal as Mourinho, and as dedicated and hard working as he is. Maybe Dig would have gone to worlds this year... Instead we got a pissing contest with CLG and avoided relegations. I hope from the bottom of my heart that both teams never sink this low again.
washed
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 30 2014 00:07 GMT
#668
On August 30 2014 09:02 Vlanitak wrote:
I wish I was as vocal as Mourinho, and as dedicated and hard working as he is. Maybe Dig would have gone to worlds this year... Instead we got a pissing contest with CLG and avoided relegations. I hope from the bottom of my heart that both teams never sink this low again.

And so do the other teams. 5 out of 8 is not super low, just average. Respecting your opponent is the basics of any competition. Something at least CLG failed to do.
Off-season = best season
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 00:13:48
August 30 2014 00:12 GMT
#669
On August 30 2014 09:01 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:58 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:40 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:27 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
[quote]

Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.

lol, a facade? Rofl, he's still a great analyst, he has very strong understanding of the game, you can just tell from watching his OGN casting. Now how effective can he be for CLG when he's on the other side of the world? Not enough, clearly. Player ego's too fucking inflated to listen without someone standing right over them and dictating what they need to do.

On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/423259211162595329

Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


to be fair, everyone fucking said the exact same shit on TL, after all the trades played out.

All right, you can not act like the saviour of CLG, talk big about how you will perform at worlds, talk shit about other teams and coaches, then when you fail miserable, blame it on longdistance coaching and whatnot. Jesus, if it's not wroking for more than a year, then leave, and if it does, then don't make excuses for such shameful losses and performance.

He's clearly a fail coach, and the lack of the korean bootcamp mentions in the last pages disturb me. Korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp. There.
Anyway, Monte played a dangerous game, which worked initially because it took some time to be proved that he's a failure of a coach. But now it's all biting back at him, like the ragekiddo who is laughing at your team in all chat at the 20th minute "haha, surr noobs, it's 30-12 for us, so ez, surr surr ahahaha". You don't say anything, you might even believe he is good, but eventually you realise he's jsut your regular riven who got fed but he's actually worthless, and when you finally win, it's your team's time to shift+enter.

You do know why they went to Korea right? It was either stay in NA scriming WITHOUT Seraph, cuz Visa.
or go to Korea to scrim with Seraph, and be with Monte. Having Koreans to scrim is a bonus.

Now if you want to say his coaching is ineffective, go right ahead. I agree, can't do much when you have a team who's players have the ego's the size of the sun, and your coach is fucking across the pacific ocean. How well can you really fucking coach?


I know, and this last game showed how important it was to practice with Seraph. If LoL had a ward sign with "kill this guy, i really don'T care" written all over it, the game would've started with every clg member putting that ward to toplane. In the other's team tower vision, of course.

And you are doing it again, making longdistance coaching an excuse. If you can't cach them properly then don't do it, jesus. It's like, if I'm put to CLG's coaching position tomorrow and they will get relegated, will you defend me saying "well, guys, but don'T attack Volband, how could he coach them well if he can't coach at all?". This is how ridiculous that arguement sounds. Don't take the damn job then. It has responsibilities, you don't see other coaches in different sports pointing fingers. "Yeah, we got knocked out, but to be honest I can't even practice with my team rofl, so what did yo uguys expect? Don't hate me, not my fault."

Just imagine CLG without Monte. lol. It would be even worse.
Also it's not like Monte hasn't had an effect, CLG played pretty strongly during season, it's not like they completely ate shit all fucking season and died. Even when they first had him in the house for like 2 weeks, a while back, you could visibly see the difference in the way they played. The games got a lot shorter, instead of going "lol wait 40min for DL to carry", they switched over to have the team with the fastest wins in the league.
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On August 30 2014 09:01 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:40 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:27 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
[quote]

Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.

lol, a facade? Rofl, he's still a great analyst, he has very strong understanding of the game, you can just tell from watching his OGN casting. Now how effective can he be for CLG when he's on the other side of the world? Not enough, clearly. Player ego's too fucking inflated to listen without someone standing right over them and dictating what they need to do.

On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/423259211162595329

Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


to be fair, everyone fucking said the exact same shit on TL, after all the trades played out.

All right, you can not act like the saviour of CLG, talk big about how you will perform at worlds, talk shit about other teams and coaches, then when you fail miserable, blame it on longdistance coaching and whatnot. Jesus, if it's not wroking for more than a year, then leave, and if it does, then don't make excuses for such shameful losses and performance.

He's clearly a fail coach, and the lack of the korean bootcamp mentions in the last pages disturb me. Korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp. There.
Anyway, Monte played a dangerous game, which worked initially because it took some time to be proved that he's a failure of a coach. But now it's all biting back at him, like the ragekiddo who is laughing at your team in all chat at the 20th minute "haha, surr noobs, it's 30-12 for us, so ez, surr surr ahahaha". You don't say anything, you might even believe he is good, but eventually you realise he's jsut your regular riven who got fed but he's actually worthless, and when you finally win, it's your team's time to shift+enter.

You do know why they went to Korea right? It was either stay in NA scriming WITHOUT Seraph, cuz Visa.
or go to Korea to scrim with Seraph, and be with Monte. Having Koreans to scrim is a bonus.

Monte has never acted as the savior of CLG. Gimme a quote from his mouth, that says so. He's always mentioned he can't be a fully effective coach because CLG simply doesn't pay enough to make it worth it to do so, he also mentioned that this has been a learning process for him too. It just so happened he was one of the first high profile analyst/coach for NA.

I think the best prediction he got for CLG at worlds is maybe get lucky with group placement, and bracket, and maybe beat some EU team if they're lucky as fuck. Otherwise get crushed by China and Korea.

As far as shit talking teams, none of it has been out of the line in comparison to what is standard in the scene. He only has the benefit of having more authority behind his opinions by being one of the best color commentators in LoL. He also explains a lot of his "shit talk", he backs it up with fairly well formed thoughts, regardless if they come true or not. It's also not like he's calling people frauds, with no evidence to back it, unlike some well known public figure who owns one of the biggest western organizations.

Now if you want to say his coaching is ineffective, go right ahead. I agree, can't do much when you have a team who's players have the ego's the size of the sun, and your coach is fucking across the pacific ocean. How well can you really fucking coach?






Monte never claimed to be the saviour of CLG, but like I have mentioned, he may have placed too much faith on CLG to perform against other teams he talked down (see: TSM, Dignitas, Curse, LMQ). Due to all the flak he gave to Curse and Dignitas, and how both teams (convincingly?) beat CLG, it looks really bad on Monte.


Yeah, this is probably the most accurate representation of what happened.

Now I see what you mean, but do you know what I still don't understand? Monte seems like someone with great passion towards the game, so why on Earth did he not resigned when his team (or some members) clearly didn't give a shit about it at all. I hope the first thing HSGG done was to give dexter a ticket back to Europe. How on earth can you be all smiley when you just got relegated from a tournament you should've been a contender to win? How? Man, I'm more sad hen I lose my promos than this guy was after the game.

Anyway, when I try to coach lower elo players and I see they let 80% of my advices slide by their ears "yeah, whatever"-style, I just abandon them. I am willing to write essays for anyone who is willing to improve, as long as I believe I have valuable informations for him, but why would I struggle with big-headed jerks? One answer can be money in monte's case, but then again, he always seemed passionate for me, and he should get payed enough from OGN to not sell his soul to blabber hours on skype just to hear dlift say "yeah, thanks coach, I'm gonna just splitpush anyway bye. Btw, has anyone seen dexter?".
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 30 2014 00:15 GMT
#670
lol i just watched game 3, that ending was stupid hilarious.


Now onto game 4, will be fun.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
August 30 2014 00:16 GMT
#671
On a lighter note...
HorsemasterK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States606 Posts
August 30 2014 00:17 GMT
#672
On August 30 2014 09:16 Swords wrote:
On a lighter note...


lol, do attempted backdoors count?
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 00:20:34
August 30 2014 00:18 GMT
#673
This kabum vs pex game would be more interesting if this alistar wasn't so far ahead. This guy will be ridiculously difficult to kill, and I don't see how PEX keep up with him.

LOL. This Alistar just teleported into 5 members of PEX. What a god
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
August 30 2014 00:20 GMT
#674
well this game just got awesome quickly
In Inca we trust
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
August 30 2014 00:21 GMT
#675
I don't see what the Monte drama is all about. He likes to talk big and be cocky, and when he fails he gets shit back. I don't see a problem with him stirring up drama or the community that gives him crap later. All part of the entertainment business. As for his coaching . . . let's be honest most of us have no idea what he's actually doing and it's impossible for us to know if he's a good or bad coach. Well the fact that he's not doing it full time is bad but apparently that will change.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6429 Posts
August 30 2014 00:21 GMT
#676
lol this game does not give a good impression of the latin american teams
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
August 30 2014 00:23 GMT
#677
well that was a solo queue braum play right there rofl
In Inca we trust
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 30 2014 00:33 GMT
#678
On August 30 2014 09:21 Slow Motion wrote:
I don't see what the Monte drama is all about. He likes to talk big and be cocky, and when he fails he gets shit back. I don't see a problem with him stirring up drama or the community that gives him crap later. All part of the entertainment business. As for his coaching . . . let's be honest most of us have no idea what he's actually doing and it's impossible for us to know if he's a good or bad coach. Well the fact that he's not doing it full time is bad but apparently that will change.


If anything, I feel CLG is not going to renew Monte.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 00:36:17
August 30 2014 00:33 GMT
#679
Ok, I guess I was mistaken. I didn't expect PEX to take control of the game like this. Those clutch barons are crazy

Now with the kabum baron steal?? This game so ridiculous
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 30 2014 00:39 GMT
#680
Backdoor incoming!
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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