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Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
August 29 2014 23:27 GMT
#621
On August 30 2014 08:08 Neverhood wrote:
lmao CLG is sooo fucked, imo they need a complete roster makeover. Anything left from this mess is probably gonna carry over lol rip.


sigh

all this player bashing, is this for real? Obviously the team hase issues. Dexter seems to be very ambitious and hot headed while link seems to be shy. If they win it's all good, dexter can be like "yoyoyo easy" and link can just ignore him. When they lose, dexter will probably call out people (like link) which leads to a bad atmosphere which in turn will lead to even worse results.

I really want to know what some people here expect what a roster change is gonna do for a team? The team has a 38% win rate in scrims and suddenly it's going up to 64% when you replace nientonsoh with seraph or dlift with hiimgosu? rofl

Well actually that might be the case if you get rid of people like yolopete or snoopeh who stopped taking the game seriously a long time ago, but I dont think that's the case for CLG. It just.. it just doesnt work anymore. They see each other every day, see the fat man's swollen, sweaty face EVERY FUCKING DAY, they just can't stand it anymore, something has to happen, they wanna throw up over their breakfast EVERY FUCKING MORNING WHY GOD DO THEY HAVE TO PLAY WITH HIM
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 29 2014 23:27 GMT
#622


buewahahaha, qtpie, never change.
liftlift > tsm
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 29 2014 23:27 GMT
#623
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:09 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:07 Swords wrote:
Monte's gonna be eating a lot of his words now.

What words? please quotes.


Tweeted at Odee that Dig didn't know how to play LoL at the start of the season.

Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
August 29 2014 23:28 GMT
#624
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.



Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 23:36:56
August 29 2014 23:30 GMT
#625
On August 30 2014 08:24 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:09 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:07 Swords wrote:
Monte's gonna be eating a lot of his words now.

What words? please quotes.


Tweeted at Odee that Dig didn't know how to play LoL at the start of the season.

Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.


What I find strange is, that his behavior in these harsch tweets and comments are critizised now, in this special case months after the comment was made. Did you wait with your critique until CLG was doing bad, because it´s easier to kick someone, who already lying on the floor? I find this just very cheap.
I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Well how his team is performing does matter.If he is saying all of na is underwhelming and his team is shitting on them it is fine.But if you go 1/6 in playoffs people are gonna call you out.Seems perfectly natural.

I mean sure there will be people who take it too over the line but that happens all the time.That really shouldn't surprise public figures.It's like they have never talked with the average person of the human race.


CLG is part of NA and so saying that NA is shit, also means CLG is shit. And if you ask me NA is shit atm. The level of play shown in these play offs so far is so incredibly low. Perhaps LMQ and C9 can step it up, but if not, NA teams will get their beating at worlds from every angle possible.
So he is right with that.
And if his team destroys their advantages, that they got through a good strategy (which can be expected to be very influenced by their coach) through absolute dumb decisions and sloppy play (which can´t be influenced by a coach), than they are just taking up their place in this shitpile of LoLplay. CLG is shit, but I would say MC is hardly the only one to blame here. You can blame him for not being as decisive with his rooster as f.e. TSM´s staff is. This is his main fault in my perspective. I think his actual teamcoaching is fine.

On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/423259211162595329

Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


You are posting quotes from january 2014. These comments were made in a completely different context.
This is just a very dirty way of argumentation. It´s manipulating wrong evidence to underline wrong statements. Pretty poor work though, everyone with half a brain can see through this shit. Btw. exactly the same kind of fundation that Regi´s VLog had. You guys are really one of a kind
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 29 2014 23:30 GMT
#626
so aranee learned spanish and moved to latin america.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
HorsemasterK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States606 Posts
August 29 2014 23:31 GMT
#627
Can't play because they're gathering firewood to stay warm....

I think I'm in love.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 29 2014 23:31 GMT
#628
Gathering firewood? Jesus christ the next level passion
Glorious SEA doto
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
August 29 2014 23:31 GMT
#629
On August 30 2014 08:30 Fionn wrote:
so aranee learned spanish and moved to latin america.


Isn't Aranae Spanish?
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
August 29 2014 23:31 GMT
#630
On August 30 2014 08:27 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:08 Neverhood wrote:
lmao CLG is sooo fucked, imo they need a complete roster makeover. Anything left from this mess is probably gonna carry over lol rip.


sigh

all this player bashing, is this for real? Obviously the team hase issues. Dexter seems to be very ambitious and hot headed while link seems to be shy. If they win it's all good, dexter can be like "yoyoyo easy" and link can just ignore him. When they lose, dexter will probably call out people (like link) which leads to a bad atmosphere which in turn will lead to even worse results.

I really want to know what some people here expect what a roster change is gonna do for a team? The team has a 38% win rate in scrims and suddenly it's going up to 64% when you replace nientonsoh with seraph or dlift with hiimgosu? rofl

Well actually that might be the case if you get rid of people like yolopete or snoopeh who stopped taking the game seriously a long time ago, but I dont think that's the case for CLG. It just.. it just doesnt work anymore. They see each other every day, see the fat man's swollen, sweaty face EVERY FUCKING DAY, they just can't stand it anymore, something has to happen, they wanna throw up over their breakfast EVERY FUCKING MORNING WHY GOD DO THEY HAVE TO PLAY WITH HIM

I'm not even talking about their individual play. It's more that their players are mentally broken from all this losing and the way they lost. They're gonna have nightmarish flashbacks to all this shit every time they play big games now.
Jaedong :D
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 23:32:49
August 29 2014 23:31 GMT
#631
On August 30 2014 08:27 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:09 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:07 Swords wrote:
Monte's gonna be eating a lot of his words now.

What words? please quotes.


Tweeted at Odee that Dig didn't know how to play LoL at the start of the season.

Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.

lol, a facade? Rofl, he's still a great analyst, he has very strong understanding of the game, you can just tell from watching his OGN casting. Now how effective can he be for CLG when he's on the other side of the world? Not enough, clearly. Player ego's too fucking inflated to listen without someone standing right over them and dictating what they need to do.

On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/423259211162595329

Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


to be fair, everyone fucking said the exact same shit on TL, after all the trades played out.
liftlift > tsm
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 29 2014 23:33 GMT
#632
On August 30 2014 08:31 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:30 Fionn wrote:
so aranee learned spanish and moved to latin america.


Isn't Aranae Spanish?


Okay, Latin America Aranee
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 23:34:02
August 29 2014 23:33 GMT
#633
On August 30 2014 08:30 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:24 nafta wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:09 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:07 Swords wrote:
Monte's gonna be eating a lot of his words now.

What words? please quotes.


Tweeted at Odee that Dig didn't know how to play LoL at the start of the season.

Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.


What I find strange is, that his behavior in these harsch tweets and comments are critizised now, in this special case months after the comment was made. Did you wait with your critique until CLG was doing bad, because it´s easier to kick someone, who already lying on the floor? I find this just very cheap.
I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Well how his team is performing does matter.If he is saying all of na is underwhelming and his team is shitting on them it is fine.But if you go 1/6 in playoffs people are gonna call you out.Seems perfectly natural.

I mean sure there will be people who take it too over the line but that happens all the time.That really shouldn't surprise public figures.It's like they have never talked with the average person of the human race.


CLG is part of NA and so saying that NA is shit, also means CLG is shit. And if you ask me NA is shit atm. The level of play shown in these play offs so far is so incredibly low. Perhaps LMQ and C9 can step it up, but if not, NA teams will get their beating at worlds from every angle possible.
So he is right with that.
And if his team destroys their advantages, that they got through a good strategy (which can be expected to be very influenced by their coach) through absolute dumb decisions and sloppy play (which can´t be influenced by a coach), than they are just taking up their place in this shitpile of LoLplay. CLG is shit, but I would say MC is hardly the only one to blame here. You can blame him for not being as decisive with his rooster as f.e. TSM´s staff is. This is his main fault in my perspective. I think his actual teamcoaching is fine.


Your logic is completely infall-.... wait. There's no transitive property for what you just said, CLG has been in the bottom half of the split for the past month, winning 1 game. 1. game. That's just CLG being shit, since NA dumped on them collectively it has no reflection at all on NA.

On August 30 2014 08:31 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:27 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:09 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:07 Swords wrote:
Monte's gonna be eating a lot of his words now.

What words? please quotes.


Tweeted at Odee that Dig didn't know how to play LoL at the start of the season.

Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.

lol, a facade? Rofl, he's still a great analyst, he has very strong understanding of the game, you can just tell from watching his OGN casting. Now how effective can he be for CLG when he's on the other side of the world? Not enough, clearly. Player ego's too fucking inflated to listen without someone standing right over them and dictating what they need to do.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/423259211162595329

Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


to be fair, everyone fucking said the exact same shit on TL, after all the trades played out.


Keep pretending that people TL have the same influence and exposure as people like Montecristo. Go ahead, I'll wait for your amazing argument.
In Inca we trust
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 23:37:24
August 29 2014 23:36 GMT
#634
On August 30 2014 08:33 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:30 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:24 nafta wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:09 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
[quote]
What words? please quotes.


Tweeted at Odee that Dig didn't know how to play LoL at the start of the season.

Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.


What I find strange is, that his behavior in these harsch tweets and comments are critizised now, in this special case months after the comment was made. Did you wait with your critique until CLG was doing bad, because it´s easier to kick someone, who already lying on the floor? I find this just very cheap.
I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Well how his team is performing does matter.If he is saying all of na is underwhelming and his team is shitting on them it is fine.But if you go 1/6 in playoffs people are gonna call you out.Seems perfectly natural.

I mean sure there will be people who take it too over the line but that happens all the time.That really shouldn't surprise public figures.It's like they have never talked with the average person of the human race.


CLG is part of NA and so saying that NA is shit, also means CLG is shit. And if you ask me NA is shit atm. The level of play shown in these play offs so far is so incredibly low. Perhaps LMQ and C9 can step it up, but if not, NA teams will get their beating at worlds from every angle possible.
So he is right with that.
And if his team destroys their advantages, that they got through a good strategy (which can be expected to be very influenced by their coach) through absolute dumb decisions and sloppy play (which can´t be influenced by a coach), than they are just taking up their place in this shitpile of LoLplay. CLG is shit, but I would say MC is hardly the only one to blame here. You can blame him for not being as decisive with his rooster as f.e. TSM´s staff is. This is his main fault in my perspective. I think his actual teamcoaching is fine.


Your logic is completely infall-.... wait. There's no transitive property for what you just said, CLG has been in the bottom half of the split for the past month, winning 1 game. 1. game. That's just CLG being shit, since NA dumped on them collectively it has no reflection at all on NA.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:27 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:09 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
[quote]
What words? please quotes.


Tweeted at Odee that Dig didn't know how to play LoL at the start of the season.

Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.

lol, a facade? Rofl, he's still a great analyst, he has very strong understanding of the game, you can just tell from watching his OGN casting. Now how effective can he be for CLG when he's on the other side of the world? Not enough, clearly. Player ego's too fucking inflated to listen without someone standing right over them and dictating what they need to do.

On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/423259211162595329

Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


to be fair, everyone fucking said the exact same shit on TL, after all the trades played out.


Keep pretending that people TL have the same influence and exposure as people like Montecristo. Go ahead, I'll wait for your amazing argument.

Yes, and he pretty much said what everyone was saying. Wow, MUCH RUDE, SUCH WOW, BOLD PREDICTION!

Yet, CLG still manages to pick up SanDisk sponsor after such terrible performance. Kelby is a magician.
liftlift > tsm
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 23:37:25
August 29 2014 23:36 GMT
#635
Sigh, look all I was trying to say was Monte should've kept his mouth shut on twitter at the start of the season. We don't need to go all flame war on this.

It's pretty simple too, the best coaches in any sport don't give opposing teams extra motivation.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
August 29 2014 23:36 GMT
#636
On August 30 2014 08:31 Neverhood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:27 Djin)ftw( wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:08 Neverhood wrote:
lmao CLG is sooo fucked, imo they need a complete roster makeover. Anything left from this mess is probably gonna carry over lol rip.


sigh

all this player bashing, is this for real? Obviously the team hase issues. Dexter seems to be very ambitious and hot headed while link seems to be shy. If they win it's all good, dexter can be like "yoyoyo easy" and link can just ignore him. When they lose, dexter will probably call out people (like link) which leads to a bad atmosphere which in turn will lead to even worse results.

I really want to know what some people here expect what a roster change is gonna do for a team? The team has a 38% win rate in scrims and suddenly it's going up to 64% when you replace nientonsoh with seraph or dlift with hiimgosu? rofl

Well actually that might be the case if you get rid of people like yolopete or snoopeh who stopped taking the game seriously a long time ago, but I dont think that's the case for CLG. It just.. it just doesnt work anymore. They see each other every day, see the fat man's swollen, sweaty face EVERY FUCKING DAY, they just can't stand it anymore, something has to happen, they wanna throw up over their breakfast EVERY FUCKING MORNING WHY GOD DO THEY HAVE TO PLAY WITH HIM

I'm not even talking about their individual play. It's more that their players are mentally broken from all this losing and the way they lost. They're gonna have nightmarish flashbacks to all this shit every time they play big games now.


CLG hadn't won big game since Raleigh 2011, about what are we speaking.
Well, okay, PAX 2012 against Curse was slightly important.
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las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
August 29 2014 23:37 GMT
#637
On August 30 2014 08:36 Swords wrote:
Sigh, look all I was trying to say was Monte should've kept his mouth shut on twitter at the start of the season. We don't need to go all flame war on this.


I wish he had done it all season frankly, because in addition to him completely dropping the ball in NA his Korea predictions have been less than amazing
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 29 2014 23:37 GMT
#638
Yeah CLG can beat curse with westrice yaaay
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 29 2014 23:40 GMT
#639
Vi ban, what patch are they playing on? lol.
liftlift > tsm
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
August 29 2014 23:40 GMT
#640
Morde and Teemo hover already, lets do it
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