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Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 29 2014 23:40 GMT
#641
On August 30 2014 08:31 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:27 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:09 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:07 Swords wrote:
Monte's gonna be eating a lot of his words now.

What words? please quotes.


Tweeted at Odee that Dig didn't know how to play LoL at the start of the season.

Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.

lol, a facade? Rofl, he's still a great analyst, he has very strong understanding of the game, you can just tell from watching his OGN casting. Now how effective can he be for CLG when he's on the other side of the world? Not enough, clearly. Player ego's too fucking inflated to listen without someone standing right over them and dictating what they need to do.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.



Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


to be fair, everyone fucking said the exact same shit on TL, after all the trades played out.

All right, you can not act like the saviour of CLG, talk big about how you will perform at worlds, talk shit about other teams and coaches, then when you fail miserable, blame it on longdistance coaching and whatnot. Jesus, if it's not wroking for more than a year, then leave, and if it does, then don't make excuses for such shameful losses and performance.

He's clearly a fail coach, and the lack of the korean bootcamp mentions in the last pages disturb me. Korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp. There.
Anyway, Monte played a dangerous game, which worked initially because it took some time to be proved that he's a failure of a coach. But now it's all biting back at him, like the ragekiddo who is laughing at your team in all chat at the 20th minute "haha, surr noobs, it's 30-12 for us, so ez, surr surr ahahaha". You don't say anything, you might even believe he is good, but eventually you realise he's jsut your regular riven who got fed but he's actually worthless, and when you finally win, it's your team's time to shift+enter.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6429 Posts
August 29 2014 23:42 GMT
#642
On August 30 2014 08:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Vi ban, what patch are they playing on? lol.

I believe it was more of a respect ban.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 23:47:24
August 29 2014 23:42 GMT
#643
On August 30 2014 08:36 Swords wrote:
Sigh, look all I was trying to say was Monte should've kept his mouth shut on twitter at the start of the season. We don't need to go all flame war on this.

It's pretty simple too, the best coaches in any sport don't give opposing teams extra motivation.


Well, in football (soccer for americans) you have this guy called José Mourinho, who is also very outspoken about his opponents, referees and so on. Still considered as one of the best coaches in the world.
Why the fuck do you bring up statements made at the start of the year and try to put them into the current context? This is just a very cheap way of making points because you take something out of its own context and put it into a completely different one. This is manipulative and leads to wrong conclusions.
This is just very terrible behavior.

On August 30 2014 08:40 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:27 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:09 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
[quote]
What words? please quotes.


Tweeted at Odee that Dig didn't know how to play LoL at the start of the season.

Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.

lol, a facade? Rofl, he's still a great analyst, he has very strong understanding of the game, you can just tell from watching his OGN casting. Now how effective can he be for CLG when he's on the other side of the world? Not enough, clearly. Player ego's too fucking inflated to listen without someone standing right over them and dictating what they need to do.

On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/423259211162595329

Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


to be fair, everyone fucking said the exact same shit on TL, after all the trades played out.

All right, you can not act like the saviour of CLG, talk big about how you will perform at worlds, talk shit about other teams and coaches, then when you fail miserable, blame it on longdistance coaching and whatnot. Jesus, if it's not wroking for more than a year, then leave, and if it does, then don't make excuses for such shameful losses and performance.

He's clearly a fail coach, and the lack of the korean bootcamp mentions in the last pages disturb me. Korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp. There.
Anyway, Monte played a dangerous game, which worked initially because it took some time to be proved that he's a failure of a coach. But now it's all biting back at him, like the ragekiddo who is laughing at your team in all chat at the 20th minute "haha, surr noobs, it's 30-12 for us, so ez, surr surr ahahaha". You don't say anything, you might even believe he is good, but eventually you realise he's jsut your regular riven who got fed but he's actually worthless, and when you finally win, it's your team's time to shift+enter.


This is just stupid from start to finish. So he doesn´t deserve any credit for CLG getting a very good top3 finish in spring. (Remember they were far ahead vs TSM before they fell apart), but he deserves to only be blamed for their shortcomings now? Do you even believe this yourself one bit? Or do you just want to bash onto someone and jump on Regi´s bandwagon of MonteHate? If you believe this shit you posted, then you have no idea of how coaching works and what parts of a performance a (strategic focused) coach can influence.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 29 2014 23:42 GMT
#644
Ok does PEX even remotely have a chance vs the Brazilians? Anyone knows them?
Off-season = best season
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 29 2014 23:43 GMT
#645
Every Latin America vs BR has always been one sided in favour of BR, I'm expecting the same tbh
Glorious SEA doto
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 29 2014 23:44 GMT
#646
I don't think he failed as a coach. CLG is sort of his side project anyway and not his main job.

I think he failed in the sense that he overcommitted on CLG and trashtalked too much. Now people can load his old tweets and point him out.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 29 2014 23:44 GMT
#647
On August 30 2014 08:43 Fusilero wrote:
Every Latin America vs BR has always been one sided in favour of BR, I'm expecting the same tbh

Since I saw this announced I kinda thought it was a free spot to worlds for BR. Oh well at least they are relatively big compared with some of the other small regions.
Off-season = best season
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 29 2014 23:46 GMT
#648
Doesn't matter who goes to worlds. We're all gonna be bowing down to the Korean overlords anyway.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 29 2014 23:47 GMT
#649
2 people forgot trinkets LOL
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
August 29 2014 23:47 GMT
#650
On August 30 2014 08:42 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:36 Swords wrote:
Sigh, look all I was trying to say was Monte should've kept his mouth shut on twitter at the start of the season. We don't need to go all flame war on this.

It's pretty simple too, the best coaches in any sport don't give opposing teams extra motivation.


Well, in football (soccer for americans) you have this guy called José Mourinho, who is also very outspoken about his opponents, referees and so on. Still considered as one of the best coaches in the world.
Why the fuck do you bring up statements made at the start of the year and try to put them into the current context? This is just a very cheap way of making points because you take something out of its own context and put it into a completely different one. This is manipulative and leads to wrong conclusions.
This is just very terrible behavior.


I don't really see how me enjoying that a team I root for beat a team that spent the start of the split shit talking them is terrible behavior. When you talk trash you'd better back it up - I'm sure Mourinho's opponents enjoy seeing him lose the same way. It's natural human behavior - haven't you heard the phrase "karma's a bitch"?
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 29 2014 23:48 GMT
#651
On August 30 2014 08:42 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:36 Swords wrote:
Sigh, look all I was trying to say was Monte should've kept his mouth shut on twitter at the start of the season. We don't need to go all flame war on this.

It's pretty simple too, the best coaches in any sport don't give opposing teams extra motivation.


Well, in football (soccer for americans) you have this guy called José Mourinho, who is also very outspoken about his opponents, referees and so on. Still considered as one of the best coaches in the world.
Why the fuck do you bring up statements made at the start of the year and try to put them into the current context? This is just a very cheap way of making points because you take something out of its own context and put it into a completely different one. This is manipulative and leads to wrong conclusions.
This is just very terrible behavior.

What José Mourinho is doing is psychological warfare, taking pressure off his players and putting pressure on referees and whatnot. He also proved himself as a great coach/manager, winning trophies everywhere.

MC was a cocky asshole, nothing more. He also proved that he can manage a team into relegation torunament in a scene which is much much inferior to the god-tier korean-league he adores and studies.

Please don't compare Monte to actual coaches, let alone to brilliant ones like José.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
August 29 2014 23:50 GMT
#652
On August 30 2014 08:48 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:42 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:36 Swords wrote:
Sigh, look all I was trying to say was Monte should've kept his mouth shut on twitter at the start of the season. We don't need to go all flame war on this.

It's pretty simple too, the best coaches in any sport don't give opposing teams extra motivation.


Well, in football (soccer for americans) you have this guy called José Mourinho, who is also very outspoken about his opponents, referees and so on. Still considered as one of the best coaches in the world.
Why the fuck do you bring up statements made at the start of the year and try to put them into the current context? This is just a very cheap way of making points because you take something out of its own context and put it into a completely different one. This is manipulative and leads to wrong conclusions.
This is just very terrible behavior.

What José Mourinho is doing is psychological warfare, taking pressure off his players and putting pressure on referees and whatnot. He also proved himself as a great coach/manager, winning trophies everywhere.

MC was a cocky asshole, nothing more. He also proved that he can manage a team into relegation torunament in a scene which is much much inferior to the god-tier korean-league he adores and studies.

Please don't compare Monte to actual coaches, let alone to brilliant ones like José.


I never compared MC to José Mourinho. I just proved your statement wrong with bringing him up as excample. This shows that you have a problem with understanding argumentation. This explains a lot of your posts.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 23:53:16
August 29 2014 23:51 GMT
#653
On August 30 2014 08:40 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:27 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:09 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:08 wei2coolman wrote:
[quote]
What words? please quotes.


Tweeted at Odee that Dig didn't know how to play LoL at the start of the season.

Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.

lol, a facade? Rofl, he's still a great analyst, he has very strong understanding of the game, you can just tell from watching his OGN casting. Now how effective can he be for CLG when he's on the other side of the world? Not enough, clearly. Player ego's too fucking inflated to listen without someone standing right over them and dictating what they need to do.

On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/423259211162595329

Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


to be fair, everyone fucking said the exact same shit on TL, after all the trades played out.

All right, you can not act like the saviour of CLG, talk big about how you will perform at worlds, talk shit about other teams and coaches, then when you fail miserable, blame it on longdistance coaching and whatnot. Jesus, if it's not wroking for more than a year, then leave, and if it does, then don't make excuses for such shameful losses and performance.

He's clearly a fail coach, and the lack of the korean bootcamp mentions in the last pages disturb me. Korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp. There.
Anyway, Monte played a dangerous game, which worked initially because it took some time to be proved that he's a failure of a coach. But now it's all biting back at him, like the ragekiddo who is laughing at your team in all chat at the 20th minute "haha, surr noobs, it's 30-12 for us, so ez, surr surr ahahaha". You don't say anything, you might even believe he is good, but eventually you realise he's jsut your regular riven who got fed but he's actually worthless, and when you finally win, it's your team's time to shift+enter.

You do know why they went to Korea right? It was either stay in NA scriming WITHOUT Seraph, cuz Visa.
or go to Korea to scrim with Seraph, and be with Monte. Having Koreans to scrim is a bonus.

Monte has never acted as the savior of CLG. Gimme a quote from his mouth, that says so. He's always mentioned he can't be a fully effective coach because CLG simply doesn't pay enough to make it worth it to do so, he also mentioned that this has been a learning process for him too. It just so happened he was one of the first high profile analyst/coach for NA.

I think the best prediction he got for CLG at worlds is maybe get lucky with group placement, and bracket, and maybe beat some EU team if they're lucky as fuck. Otherwise get crushed by China and Korea.

As far as shit talking teams, none of it has been out of the line in comparison to what is standard in the scene. He only has the benefit of having more authority behind his opinions by being one of the best color commentators in LoL. He also explains a lot of his "shit talk", he backs it up with fairly well formed thoughts, regardless if they come true or not. It's also not like he's calling people frauds, with no evidence to back it, unlike some well known public figure who owns one of the biggest western organizations.

Now if you want to say his coaching is ineffective, go right ahead. I agree, can't do much when you have a team who's players have the ego's the size of the sun, and your coach is fucking across the pacific ocean. How well can you really fucking coach?



liftlift > tsm
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 29 2014 23:52 GMT
#654
On August 30 2014 08:42 TeeTS wrote:

This is just stupid from start to finish. So he doesn´t deserve any credit for CLG getting a very good top3 finish in spring. (Remember they were far ahead vs TSM before they fell apart), but he deserves to only be blamed for their shortcomings now? Do you even believe this yourself one bit? Or do you just want to bash onto someone and jump on Regi´s bandwagon of MonteHate? If you believe this shit you posted, then you have no idea of how coaching works and what parts of a performance a (strategic focused) coach can influence.

Enlighten me about his influence starting from LCS super week.

Also, put me in co-coach position for C9. I do the shopping for them and they will still wreck everyone in NA. Sure, when they would need actual coaching I'd be like "uhh... bananas? anyone? I can buy tickets to korea if I can use the team's money. Deal?".

No really, try to defend this abyssmal performance. To return to football analogy, this is when even decent coaches stand up from the bench. Not decent ones are fired immidietly.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
August 29 2014 23:54 GMT
#655
On August 30 2014 08:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 08:40 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:27 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:09 Swords wrote:
[quote]

Tweeted at Odee that Dig didn't know how to play LoL at the start of the season.

Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.

lol, a facade? Rofl, he's still a great analyst, he has very strong understanding of the game, you can just tell from watching his OGN casting. Now how effective can he be for CLG when he's on the other side of the world? Not enough, clearly. Player ego's too fucking inflated to listen without someone standing right over them and dictating what they need to do.

On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/423259211162595329

Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


to be fair, everyone fucking said the exact same shit on TL, after all the trades played out.

All right, you can not act like the saviour of CLG, talk big about how you will perform at worlds, talk shit about other teams and coaches, then when you fail miserable, blame it on longdistance coaching and whatnot. Jesus, if it's not wroking for more than a year, then leave, and if it does, then don't make excuses for such shameful losses and performance.

He's clearly a fail coach, and the lack of the korean bootcamp mentions in the last pages disturb me. Korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp. There.
Anyway, Monte played a dangerous game, which worked initially because it took some time to be proved that he's a failure of a coach. But now it's all biting back at him, like the ragekiddo who is laughing at your team in all chat at the 20th minute "haha, surr noobs, it's 30-12 for us, so ez, surr surr ahahaha". You don't say anything, you might even believe he is good, but eventually you realise he's jsut your regular riven who got fed but he's actually worthless, and when you finally win, it's your team's time to shift+enter.

You do know why they went to Korea right? It was either stay in NA scriming WITHOUT Seraph, cuz Visa.
or go to Korea to scrim with Seraph, and be with Monte. Having Koreans to scrim is a bonus.

Monte has never acted as the savior of CLG. Gimme a quote from his mouth, that says so. He's always mentioned he can't be a fully effective coach because CLG simply doesn't pay enough to make it worth it to do so, he also mentioned that this has been a learning process for him too. It just so happened he was one of the first high profile analyst/coach for NA.

As far as shit talking teams, none of it has been out of the line in comparison to what is standard in the scene. He only has the benefit of having more authority behind his opinions by being one of the best color commentators in LoL. He also explains a lot of his "shit talk", he backs it up with fairly well formed thoughts, regardless if they come true or not. It's also not like he's calling people frauds, with no evidence to back it, unlike some well known public figure who owns one of the biggest western organizations.

Now if you want to say his coaching is ineffective, go right ahead. I agree, can't do much when you have a team who's players have the ego's the size of the sun, and your coach is fucking across the pacific ocean. How well can you really fucking coach?






I'm pretty done arguing about this stuff, but the bolded is pathetic, both in terms of CLG's management, and in terms of Monte taking on a job he's basically admitted he can't do effectively.

If that's true it makes Regi look right about his statement about Monte being fraud. If he can't be a fully effective coach, why did he take the job other than to prop up his own product?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 29 2014 23:54 GMT
#656
That first blood snipe with the braum Q, badmilk the legend
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 23:57:05
August 29 2014 23:54 GMT
#657
On August 30 2014 08:52 Volband wrote:
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On August 30 2014 08:42 TeeTS wrote:

This is just stupid from start to finish. So he doesn´t deserve any credit for CLG getting a very good top3 finish in spring. (Remember they were far ahead vs TSM before they fell apart), but he deserves to only be blamed for their shortcomings now? Do you even believe this yourself one bit? Or do you just want to bash onto someone and jump on Regi´s bandwagon of MonteHate? If you believe this shit you posted, then you have no idea of how coaching works and what parts of a performance a (strategic focused) coach can influence.

Enlighten me about his influence starting from LCS super week.

Also, put me in co-coach position for C9. I do the shopping for them and they will still wreck everyone in NA. Sure, when they would need actual coaching I'd be like "uhh... bananas? anyone? I can buy tickets to korea if I can use the team's money. Deal?".

No really, try to defend this abyssmal performance. To return to football analogy, this is when even decent coaches stand up from the bench. Not decent ones are fired immidietly.

There is no defending abysmal performance, but I would say it's more a player/team problem, and less so analyst problems. I fucking guarantee you any team that's not TSM would fucking love to have Monte doing analysis for them.
On August 30 2014 08:54 Swords wrote:
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On August 30 2014 08:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:40 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:27 Volband wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:21 TeeTS wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:17 Redox wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:11 Swords wrote:
On August 30 2014 08:10 wei2coolman wrote:
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Dig still 5th place... rofl, Still doesn't know how to play LoL. Well at least Zion does.


Oh, he wasn't wrong, he was just an asshole.

Correct analysis is being an asshole? You do know what his main job is, right?

How is it correct that they can not play LoL? Obviously they can as they do that for a living.

I mean, that Regi is a cheap moron should be common knowledge by now, but that people here are of the same kind is kinda sad.

Too bad "that cheap moron" is right, while your precious monte has many hats to eat. Also, Regi never tried to sell himself as a LoL-mastermind, while Monte put out such a facade, it's just emberassing after this turn of events.

Just export him back to korea and let him cast his games, this NA scene seems to be too hard for him.

Brb, watching some korean vods so I can apply to the soon-to-be empty CLG coaching/analyst job.

lol, a facade? Rofl, he's still a great analyst, he has very strong understanding of the game, you can just tell from watching his OGN casting. Now how effective can he be for CLG when he's on the other side of the world? Not enough, clearly. Player ego's too fucking inflated to listen without someone standing right over them and dictating what they need to do.

On August 30 2014 08:28 ManBaker wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/mlB6kVL.jpg

Such fair """""analysis"""""

So well mannered, very insightful, he even thought to help out.

Yeah, no.

https://twitter.com/ggCMonteCristo/status/423259211162595329

Look at the well thought out predictions, such clear """""analysis"""""

Monte apologists in full throttle in this thread


to be fair, everyone fucking said the exact same shit on TL, after all the trades played out.

All right, you can not act like the saviour of CLG, talk big about how you will perform at worlds, talk shit about other teams and coaches, then when you fail miserable, blame it on longdistance coaching and whatnot. Jesus, if it's not wroking for more than a year, then leave, and if it does, then don't make excuses for such shameful losses and performance.

He's clearly a fail coach, and the lack of the korean bootcamp mentions in the last pages disturb me. Korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp, korean bootcamp. There.
Anyway, Monte played a dangerous game, which worked initially because it took some time to be proved that he's a failure of a coach. But now it's all biting back at him, like the ragekiddo who is laughing at your team in all chat at the 20th minute "haha, surr noobs, it's 30-12 for us, so ez, surr surr ahahaha". You don't say anything, you might even believe he is good, but eventually you realise he's jsut your regular riven who got fed but he's actually worthless, and when you finally win, it's your team's time to shift+enter.

You do know why they went to Korea right? It was either stay in NA scriming WITHOUT Seraph, cuz Visa.
or go to Korea to scrim with Seraph, and be with Monte. Having Koreans to scrim is a bonus.

Monte has never acted as the savior of CLG. Gimme a quote from his mouth, that says so. He's always mentioned he can't be a fully effective coach because CLG simply doesn't pay enough to make it worth it to do so, he also mentioned that this has been a learning process for him too. It just so happened he was one of the first high profile analyst/coach for NA.

As far as shit talking teams, none of it has been out of the line in comparison to what is standard in the scene. He only has the benefit of having more authority behind his opinions by being one of the best color commentators in LoL. He also explains a lot of his "shit talk", he backs it up with fairly well formed thoughts, regardless if they come true or not. It's also not like he's calling people frauds, with no evidence to back it, unlike some well known public figure who owns one of the biggest western organizations.

Now if you want to say his coaching is ineffective, go right ahead. I agree, can't do much when you have a team who's players have the ego's the size of the sun, and your coach is fucking across the pacific ocean. How well can you really fucking coach?






I'm pretty done arguing about this stuff, but the bolded is pathetic, both in terms of CLG's management, and in terms of Monte taking on a job he's basically admitted he can't do effectively.

If that's true it makes Regi look right about his statement about Monte being fraud. If he can't be a fully effective coach, why did he take the job other than to prop up his own product?

He told CLG straight up, "yeah, your proposed paycheck is not worth it for me to leave Korea to do this job, but what I can do is do analysis, and try and teach the players how to play the game". He still spends a fuck ton of time in Korea going over stuff for CLG, he just can't be there in person to hold the belt to beat players into shape.

CLG knew what they were getting into, and everyone knew that was the case for the past year, but all of a sudden people have problems with it??? ROFL. Now people have issues with Monte?
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HorsemasterK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States606 Posts
August 29 2014 23:55 GMT
#658
For what its worth, there are prolly big changes coming to CLG:

"HotshotGG ‏@CLG_HotshotGG 11m

I won't let this happen ever again. I knew all the answers but never acted on them. Change will come, I promise."

nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 29 2014 23:56 GMT
#659
On August 30 2014 08:55 HorsemasterK wrote:
For what its worth, there are prolly big changes coming to CLG:

"HotshotGG ‏@CLG_HotshotGG 11m

I won't let this happen ever again. I knew all the answers but never acted on them. Change will come, I promise."


Hotshot and the ggs back to starters.Just get aphromoo.The dream is alive.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 29 2014 23:57 GMT
#660
On August 30 2014 08:55 HorsemasterK wrote:
For what its worth, there are prolly big changes coming to CLG:

"HotshotGG ‏@CLG_HotshotGG 11m

I won't let this happen ever again. I knew all the answers but never acted on them. Change will come, I promise."


HSGG claiming he knows all the answers would not make me very optimistic as a CLG fan. But tbh eve if I never liked them I hope they get their shit together. Because they are a big name that is important for league in NA.
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