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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 30 2014 03:24 GMT
#701
On August 30 2014 11:53 cythaze wrote:
Another factor is the money he is probably expacting.
most establishes teams have their coaches/analysts found already and lower tier teams that might be interested and need someone might look for less risky options (cheaper and actually in their region).


It's already been said that he doesn't receive a large salary from CLG, so there's no reason to believe that he'd expect a bunch from another team.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 03:58:22
August 30 2014 03:57 GMT
#702
Knowing how CLG was hiring for a 'chief financial' officer for 35k a few months back I can see Monte paid only meagerly.

But money is probably not his primary concern. He might want to coach a team with.... potential, if you will.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 30 2014 04:40 GMT
#703
I really like watching VODs then coming here. Its like eating Apple Pie after running a Marathon.

I actually hope Monte gets dropped from CLG and not picked up so we can have a second, objective, asshole talking about League. IMO we need at least 2-3 more assholes talking about League on a competing show, preferably IdrA quality, and one ombudsman(and not Travis, NEVER Travis) to temper our new show of ill-tempered jackasses.
Freeeeeeedom
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
August 30 2014 04:42 GMT
#704
You can take the script of a talk show from most of these LR threads.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 30 2014 04:55 GMT
#705
It's pretty funny going on Reddit and seeing all these people going "It's not Seraph's fault, he just gets no help from his team!"
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 05:46:35
August 30 2014 05:11 GMT
#706
Kiwi had a hell of a series today. Really hope they don't bench him, I think he can get better and has shown flashes of brilliance

Also I don't understand how CLG's sudden collapse is Monte's fault. In case you've forgotten, CLG was pretty decisively the best team in NA for quite a few weeks and then they just...collapsed. When they picked up Monte they got noticeably better in a few weeks. This is very, very, very, I MEAN VERY clearly a player issue for a team with a penchant for rotations and strategic play and strong mechanical players to just explode
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 30 2014 05:13 GMT
#707
On August 30 2014 13:42 caelym wrote:
You can take the script of a talk show from most of these LR threads.


You could...if we only had someone who read these threads and was connected to the scene so as to get on good enough guests to make the show viable.
Freeeeeeedom
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 30 2014 05:50 GMT
#708
Why is Travis hated here? I spot the negative comments a week ago as well.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 06:16:56
August 30 2014 06:12 GMT
#709
The same reason serious football fans hate Chris Berman and Joe Buck (plus basically the whole ESPN Monday Night Football lineup); serious basketball fans hated Mark Jackson and hate Reggie Miller; baseball fans hate (actually I have no idea, I don't watch baseball); and every serious fan hates when Bob Costas talks about a sport they like:

1. Blatant Fanboyism;
2. Strong Opinions (almost always cliched and wrong);
3. Weak/Non-Existent interview skills; and
4. The fact that casual fans don't understand that 1-3 are true.

Edit.

Travis also has the "Troy Aikman talking about the Dallas Cowboys" thing going on when he talks about CLG, but that is secondary. Also, its important to note that these people aren't always misinformed/stupid (Like Gruden knows football), sometimes they actually CHOOSE to say dumb things (seemingly to ingratiate themselves with coaches/players).
Freeeeeeedom
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 06:49:58
August 30 2014 06:36 GMT
#710
On August 30 2014 15:12 cLutZ wrote:
The same reason serious football fans hate Chris Berman and Joe Buck (plus basically the whole ESPN Monday Night Football lineup); serious basketball fans hated Mark Jackson and hate Reggie Miller; baseball fans hate (actually I have no idea, I don't watch baseball); and every serious fan hates when Bob Costas talks about a sport they like:

1. Blatant Fanboyism;
2. Strong Opinions (almost always cliched and wrong);
3. Weak/Non-Existent interview skills; and
4. The fact that casual fans don't understand that 1-3 are true.

Edit.

Travis also has the "Troy Aikman talking about the Dallas Cowboys" thing going on when he talks about CLG, but that is secondary. Also, its important to note that these people aren't always misinformed/stupid (Like Gruden knows football), sometimes they actually CHOOSE to say dumb things (seemingly to ingratiate themselves with coaches/players).

I love how I don't get any of those references, but thanks, I see now.:D

Well, I'm happy his making content and doing interviews. He's a laidback guy so are his interviews. We need Thorins and Montes, to stir up things, but I enjoy watching Travis' casual interviews. Huge dlift and clg fanboy, which must be nice to clg fans, he uploaded tons of dlift content :D I liked the one where he drove dlift to his family, really nice thing to do, and dlift needs all the friends, because his style can make someone quite lonely.

Maybe I'm biased, because I just loved those weekends, where I watched the Solomid Invitationals, with "noname" players and teams who are now the best in NA and hyped as fuck shoutcasted partially by Kobe who is my favourite among the Rioters, and after that, tuning in to Travis' talk show with people who later became well-known e-sports personalities, like Sjokz, or Travis himself. It was like 2 years ago, but I have such a nostalgic feeling when I think back about those times. Hah, the first time I saw Balls he was playing adc for later XDG, and he e-d into 3 people in the baron pit and decimated them, then casually walked away.

Edit: Ah, this nostalgia made me want to bitch about how the challanger series are uninteresting for me as hell. I know a lot of the guys from challanger series watching high elo na streams, but they are aired at such ridic time for me, that I can't get myself to watch it, and I rarely watch vods of actual lcs games, let alone CS.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 30 2014 06:54 GMT
#711
On August 30 2014 15:12 cLutZ wrote:
The same reason serious football fans hate Chris Berman and Joe Buck (plus basically the whole ESPN Monday Night Football lineup); serious basketball fans hated Mark Jackson and hate Reggie Miller; baseball fans hate (actually I have no idea, I don't watch baseball); and every serious fan hates when Bob Costas talks about a sport they like:

1. Blatant Fanboyism;
2. Strong Opinions (almost always cliched and wrong);
3. Weak/Non-Existent interview skills; and
4. The fact that casual fans don't understand that 1-3 are true.

Edit.

Travis also has the "Troy Aikman talking about the Dallas Cowboys" thing going on when he talks about CLG, but that is secondary. Also, its important to note that these people aren't always misinformed/stupid (Like Gruden knows football), sometimes they actually CHOOSE to say dumb things (seemingly to ingratiate themselves with coaches/players).


What are his strong opinions? The only time I remember seeing him express an opinion on anything was for predictions on Ongamers, but even then I haven't actually seen him write anything.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
August 30 2014 06:57 GMT
#712
Well if TSM don't make worlds this spot hasn't been THAT bad.

Seriously though im on the alliance bandwagon fuck CLG bunch of pea hearted scrubs
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 07:03:37
August 30 2014 07:00 GMT
#713
On August 30 2014 14:11 MattBarry wrote:
Kiwi had a hell of a series today. Really hope they don't bench him, I think he can get better and has shown flashes of brilliance

Also I don't understand how CLG's sudden collapse is Monte's fault. In case you've forgotten, CLG was pretty decisively the best team in NA for quite a few weeks and then they just...collapsed. When they picked up Monte they got noticeably better in a few weeks. This is very, very, very, I MEAN VERY clearly a player issue for a team with a penchant for rotations and strategic play and strong mechanical players to just explode

Kiwi's main issues seem to stem from Dig's lack of understanding of how to play out the 2v1. Him getting caught out is just a by-product of playing support against a Syndra.

Travis doesn't even fanboy CLG that hard, sure he does tons of DL interviews, but that's cuz 1) he's great friends with DL, and wants to help promote his friend, 2) people fucking love DL interviews, therefore way more views for Ongamers, it's fucking win:win. He doesn't really shark away from dissing CLG either, and he gets DL to say stupid shit that kelby doesn't always approve of. lol.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 30 2014 07:16 GMT
#714
I dont think his CLG-ism is that bad. He usually just as bad with all of the pro players. The problem is that his content feels like Ongamers picked a random, cute, girl from the audience and gave her a press badge and a camera crew. Except he has been doing this for 3? years (also is not a random cute girl).

Also, I just realized CLG's bizarre fascination with banning Zed (all 4 games). I did not realize this when watching, nor do I understand considering Zed is very un-Shiptur.
Freeeeeeedom
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
August 30 2014 07:23 GMT
#715
Kiwikid had a hell of a series. As Crumbz got his confidence through the series he ended up playing pretty great too.

I think CLG would do much better with a real coach as I still believe the CLG team as a whole is solid but it looks like they aren't going to get the chance with Hotshotgg on the case.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 30 2014 07:27 GMT
#716
What does Hotshot actually do with the team?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
August 30 2014 08:09 GMT
#717
Did any team deal with Ziggs like CLG did - clearing out the mines to ensure the wave reaches turret and going all in from there?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
August 30 2014 08:10 GMT
#718
On August 30 2014 16:27 GolemMadness wrote:
What does Hotshot actually do with the team?


What he always does, get some talented players that won't fit in the team xD

#voyboyneverforget
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
August 30 2014 13:59 GMT
#719
Man, I dunno what Dig should do. Qt and Kiwi seemed to fix their issues for the most part when their jobs were finally on the line. Kiwi got his head on straight and played well without getting caught too much. Qt finally played Tristana. I really think Dig would be playing in C9 or LMQ's spot right had he learned her earlier. They demonstrated yesterday that they can really do a great job dragging games out with him on that champ, and they lost so many games to the exact same bullshit while he kept trying to force Lucian after the nerfs. I hope Scarra and his teammates get him to understand he has to play champions he doesn't like sometimes for the good of the team.

I'm still unconvinced on Crumbzz. He saved Dig's asses with that Insec play, but that was after spending the entire game being mostly irrelevant. He demonstrated he has the same issues in terms of itemization and playing the role his team needs him to. And his best games were on Kha'Zix where he can basically just build damage without anyone questioning it. Game 4 he did look great though, and really played out their plan to camp Seraph perfectly. I guess it's a question of what he does in the offseason in terms of learning how to be more than a solo queue jungler.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 30 2014 15:31 GMT
#720
Korean regional spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
Impact picked rumble and won, are we gonna see the grand comeback of balls' rumblings?
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