EPT[Patch 5.16] I'm the Juggernaut Patch Discussion - Page 17
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Alaric
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Slayer91
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On August 27 2015 00:52 Ketara wrote: And if you really badly need purple smite you maybe want to consider playing a different jungle champ. I generally agree with this sentiment though you kind of need it on xin, xin may be strong enough to justify his cancer clear. I always go blue smite on mumu and rammus. Anyone with AoE clear doesn't really need it because it doesn't help you clear the big creep and the sustain is meh, just get a crystalline flask if you need sustain that badly. | ||
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Caiada
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Xin feels like he'd be super bullshit with the new items. His most winning build is still Devourer ???? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
cinderhulk+ghostblade into tank was good as well I think new devouurer is just superior to both now, 2 hit q knockup is good and it does more dps than anything else, so you can go full tank and be fine or get wits end or botrk or ghostblade as another damage item and do tons of damage. Don't know which of the new items you want, DMP is ok but he already has a slow and they don't stack, titanic doesn't seem like it would be too good either. Steraks is good but you want to get some health first because it's not really that cost effective otherwise. | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
I was thinking something troll as shit like Warrior/Tforce/Sterak's. Dive in and hope you kill something squishy and get out before Sterak shield and your ult resists wear off. Titanic as an additional AA reset is probably decent. | ||
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ticklishmusic
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Goumindong
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Gahlo
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On August 27 2015 03:30 Caiada wrote: I remember Oddone basically saying, if you don't need to AA the small camps in your clear, you shouldn't get purple smite. That's the very general rule I use, though there's probably exceptions. Xin feels like he'd be super bullshit with the new items. His most winning build is still Devourer ???? Sated Q pops up in 2 attacks instead of 3 Sated W heals in 2 attacks instead of 3 Both of those factors make it really strong on him. | ||
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Requizen
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Slayer91
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You don't NEED the sated to be good with devourer, but it obviously helps On August 27 2015 03:44 Gahlo wrote: Sated Q pops up in 2 attacks instead of 3 Sated W heals in 2 attacks instead of 3 Both of those factors make it really strong on him. who cares about the heal though, like 50 more hp yay | ||
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Caiada
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Zess
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Gahlo
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On August 27 2015 03:47 Requizen wrote: Yeah, but how long does it take to get to 30 stacks, even if you buy it as soon as you have the gold? Unless you're super snowballing for stacks, or ignoring all lanes and hard farming until full, it would take some time. Since Scuttles and Dragon give 2 and 5 stacks respectively, there is a lot of team play potential to getting stacks with Sated as opposed to Feral Flare and old Devourer. In addition the stack cap also curbs junglers from overfarming while they try to "go infinite". | ||
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Alaric
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Sonnington
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There's that, and like 95% of players on champion.gg and probuilds are building trailblazer. | ||
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Ansibled
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Requizen
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On August 27 2015 04:52 Sonnington wrote: I don't know where all the trailblazer hate is coming from. Trailblazer is a great item when you need to keep your mana and HP up in the jungle. It's especially good on Mumu who has mana problems. It's overall a safer option to buy. Chilling smite is better if you're committed to snowballing the game through ganks, but Mumu's ganks are mediocre until he gets his ult. His ult is also on a really long cd which gives him time to farm the jungle between ganks. If you want to snowball the game through ganking then you should probably pick a different jungler. There's that, and like 95% of players on champion.gg and probuilds are building trailblazer. What Slayer was saying is that if you run Runeglaive Enchantment instead of Cinderhulk, you don't have Mana problems. Of course, Cinderhulk gives you more defensive stats, but Runeglaive has more damage with the Sheen proc, so take that into account. | ||
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Alaric
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It's like Maokai where you wouldn't start a gank with W. | ||
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Requizen
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Gahlo
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On August 27 2015 04:58 Requizen wrote: What champions if any would use Scavenging Smite? It looks like it's designed for people who just want to counterjungle? I can't see a real reason to pick it over any of the other ones. Nobody. I don't think there's been one compelling use for it ever and it just screams "ward your jungle and collapse on me." | ||
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