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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 30 2012 15:45 GMT
#61
OP piece of shit.

Still can't believe his ult hasn't been hotfixed yet.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
May 30 2012 15:48 GMT
#62
Kayle ult is pretty good vs this asshole. He jumps up and Kayle says no quadra kill for you. What about Zhonya's, can you Zhonya's while he's in mid air to shut his ult down as well?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 30 2012 16:04 GMT
#63
You should be able to use Zhonya, but if it works like Vlad's pool or Akali's shroud work on Nautilus' ult, he'll just get the cd back (not sure about the mana, I didn't check).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 18:10:01
May 30 2012 17:16 GMT
#64
why would "pro" players get Trinity over BT? He scales so hard with AD right now.

I always think about this track when I'm about to use his ult:
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Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
May 30 2012 18:10 GMT
#65
Because you dont need to be intelligent to be professional
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
May 30 2012 19:00 GMT
#66
On May 31 2012 02:16 broz0rs wrote:
why would "pro" players get Trinity over BT? He scales so hard with AD right now.

I always think about this track when I'm about to use his ult:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9JA7IWfFNA


:bowdown:
hoopz barkley
shut up and jam
gotta have that tookis

such a good game
darius would fit perfectly in that game
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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
May 30 2012 19:04 GMT
#67
garen vs Darius (take my experience with a grain of salt) is Garen's win unless you take more than Darius' q+w until mod gameish. any later than that and Darius destroys garen
reptile
Profile Joined July 2010
United States210 Posts
May 30 2012 19:48 GMT
#68
I'm not sure if I just got rolled or what, but 2 games in a row I got completely decimated as Darius playing top against Singed. He'd just run circles around me all day while tossing me about.
"When the game is over, the King and the Pawn go back in the same box."
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
May 30 2012 20:27 GMT
#69
Fiora should also be able to lane against him early. At level 3 you have to wait for him to pull you in, then pop your W+E combo, wail on him 4x to fully stack your passive, then Q him in the face and Q again to escape. Darius' passive will out damage the heal from Fiora's passive but you should be able to stack yours faster than he can using E in addition to the 15AD you get from W passive; as long as you can disengage after the first 4 hits. Any more than 4 hits and darius' passive will wreak your heal. In between trades you can recover by last hitting minions for HP, he can't. Plus his Q pushes the lane hard so you will have to AA creeps to keep the wave just out of your tower range. Do not disengage with Q before he pulls you with his E or he will just bring you back into the fight and continue stacking his passive. Darius will win a prolonged engagment. Fiora has the ball in her court, can micro to win, but 1 mistake and darius can take the lane advantage.

Use smart casting to counter his Ult with your own Ult after level 6. You have to be quick while he's in the air for a split second.
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Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 10:05:27
May 31 2012 10:05 GMT
#70
On May 31 2012 18:50 PrinceXizor wrote:
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On May 31 2012 18:45 Shiv. wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:05 Alaric wrote:
Renekton and Fiora have been mentioned here, I guess you could add Lee Sin as he has the tools to dictates how and when to engage/disengage, amongst others.

Renekton I can see, Fiora I haven't tried yet, even though I guess if she manages to parry his W that would work out well. I still don't see her outdamaging him, but I wouldn't know for sure. I've played against Lee twice and managed to tear him apart, just because it didn't seem to matter he can pick his engagements well because there simply was no good time for him to engage at all. That doesn't neccessarily say much about the MU per say, but that's how it went for me.

I have no idea how Wukong, GP and Jax wouldn't get trashed, though, especially GP.

Wu and jax can disengage at will, and avoid attacks altogether

wu and GP do extremely well building tanky, which gives them advantages over darius. winning you lane and having positive matchups aren't always about kills you know. GP has an added advantage of being able to kite darius.

I am fully aware how lanes are won, thank you very much. Wukong can disengage, but assuming you're not pushed up to Wukong's turret - what hinders Darius from just following you? I'm genuinely asking, I love Wukong myself but I only played that MU from the Darius side and won ezpz.

Jax I can see if he forfeits early CS, but he will never be able to engage on Darius and I see him having a hard time farming at all up untill 7-8, especially if Darius is able to control the wave. I might be very wrong about the Jax matchup and I guess I can see Jax pulling ahead with the help of his jungler.

I still don't see GP standing a chance though. Once Darius lands his E, GP can't really do all that much, can he? If GP was a manaless champion, I could see him going even, but with resource restrictions, there's only so many oranges he can eat.
currently rooting for myself.
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
May 31 2012 11:41 GMT
#71
lets be honest here, darius is not "OH MY GOD OP'IEST SHIT EVER".
But there are phases in the game when he is too strong. 1v2 is like peace of cake for him after he wins his lane, sometimes he even can 1v3. He definitely needs some hotfix.
Eventhough I am not high elo player, still darius wrecks shit on our level and games become joyless.
Its grack
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 12:48:14
May 31 2012 12:44 GMT
#72
The consensus of the latest SotL episode is that Darius is NOT op. They argue he can be countered in lane (but couldn't name 3 champs that do well against him from the top off their heads), is weak vs. kiting teams and becomes useless lategame except for his ult (which they admit is a little bit too strong in certain situations).

I still ban him. I lost almost every single game playing against him and never reached lategame where he is reputed to be weak...


€dit: nvm just realized Froggen plays normal where his enemies might not be that good compared to when he's playing ranked at 2.2k+ ELO.
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
May 31 2012 14:15 GMT
#73
The reason Darius feels so OP is because he is a E>W>Q>right click to win champion and because of his passive nobody can 1v1 him without loosing every single trade! He can be beaten but it requires twice as much micro from the other player and is very unforgiving because if you mess up once you're dead or forced to base. The AD scaling on his passive needs removed IMO and have his ult: only refresh half its CD on kill; reset it to like 10 seconds instead of instant CD; or increase the mana cost everytime he uses it like kogma's ult.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 01 2012 06:12 GMT
#74
On May 31 2012 23:15 Ghost-z wrote:
The reason Darius feels so OP is because he is a E>W>Q>right click to win champion and because of his passive nobody can 1v1 him without loosing every single trade! He can be beaten but it requires twice as much micro from the other player and is very unforgiving because if you mess up once you're dead or forced to base. The AD scaling on his passive needs removed IMO and have his ult: only refresh half its CD on kill; reset it to like 10 seconds instead of instant CD; or increase the mana cost everytime he uses it like kogma's ult.

those are both nerfs targetted at late game, where he's already kinda lackluster. mostly he needs base damage nerfs and range increases in order to even out his power curve IMO.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 01 2012 06:26 GMT
#75
One change I think he needs based on how many people use the ult to chunk people down to 10% before killing them (rather than using it as a killing blow, especially early game) is that the ult should clear all stacks of Hemorrhage, allowing a non-killing blow ult not to mean instant death anyway because of bleed damage.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 01 2012 06:30 GMT
#76
On June 01 2012 15:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
One change I think he needs based on how many people use the ult to chunk people down to 10% before killing them (rather than using it as a killing blow, especially early game) is that the ult should clear all stacks of Hemorrhage, allowing a non-killing blow ult not to mean instant death anyway because of bleed damage.

that's a pretty huge damage nerf on it. you effectively take away 2.0 AD magic damage from most use cases. would need some sort of compensation, which would make it nuttier in the KS scenario, which I think doesn't need help. I don't think this change is needed.
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PeT[uK]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States412 Posts
June 01 2012 06:55 GMT
#77
just fought him with jarvan and got my ass handed to me. It was so bad.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 02 2012 06:32 GMT
#78
next patch probably kills him depending on the numbers decrease on his passive. Darius is too binary with his current ranged and CDs for them to just be hitting damage numbers IMO.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 02 2012 07:10 GMT
#79
On June 02 2012 15:32 Mogwai wrote:
next patch probably kills him depending on the numbers decrease on his passive. Darius is too binary with his current ranged and CDs for them to just be hitting damage numbers IMO.

what about the damage on his ulti? it seems a little too high imo.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
June 02 2012 07:16 GMT
#80
I just wish it wasn't true damage. True damage nuke on a CD that refreshes on kill, I hate how Riot intentionally make OP champs because they are so fucking greedy.
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