EPT[Patch 3.12] (j/k) Jinx General Discussion - Page 63
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Looks like fnatic has made their decision and it's rekkles. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 06 2013 02:09 Fusilero wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1nsa13/puszu_leaving_fnatic_gaming_house/ Looks like fnatic has made their decision and it's rekkles. Uzi must have broke him. But to be honest, he played great all WC long. Real shame, well he'll be picked up in no time, maybe part of the EU super team? I'd take him over freeze, dats for sure. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On October 06 2013 02:17 wei2coolman wrote: Uzi must have broke him. But to be honest, he played great all WC long. Real shame, well he'll be picked up in no time, maybe part of the EU super team? I'd take him over freeze, dats for sure. Eh, I think you're giving him too much credit. He would get a lot of kills because he would clean up team fights started by xPeke and sOAZ, but his laning was pretty underwhelming. I think you guys might be forgetting how good Rekkles was. He's certainly a level above Puszu. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On October 06 2013 02:17 wei2coolman wrote: Uzi must have broke him. But to be honest, he played great all WC long. Real shame, well he'll be picked up in no time, maybe part of the EU super team? I'd take him over freeze, dats for sure. Copenhagen pups said they'd take him if fnatic took rekkles so it's probably going to be a trade. Can't say I'm entirely certain though it sounds a bit too in on how hard cowtard can carry. On October 06 2013 02:27 Haiq343 wrote: I'm torn on Puszu. The clean-up KDA critique feels very true, at the same time I wonder how much of his lanining struggles were from playing in heavily Leona lanes that while kill lanes are exploitable by good players. Seems like both results are the extreme situations. I feel like people do overlook this loads, yolostar played loads of leona so there were many times where for all intents and purposes he's 1v2 as leona can't do anything. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 06 2013 02:23 onlywonderboy wrote: Eh, I think you're giving him too much credit. He would get a lot of kills because he would clean up team fights started by xPeke and sOAZ, but his laning was pretty underwhelming. I think you guys might be forgetting how good Rekkles was. He's certainly a level above Puszu. Rekkles was always overrated imo, even when there was tons of hype for him to be the new age of EU Adc's. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On October 06 2013 02:23 onlywonderboy wrote: Eh, I think you're giving him too much credit. He would get a lot of kills because he would clean up team fights started by xPeke and sOAZ, but his laning was pretty underwhelming. I think you guys might be forgetting how good Rekkles was. He's certainly a level above Puszu. isnt that exactly his job though. i agree his laning doesnt seem dominant but against royal every lane lost, but the other laners who lost over and over again arent getting any critique. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On October 06 2013 02:07 Requizen wrote: Riven is arguably still pretty assasssin-y, considering her burst and ability to dive and instagib squishies. Nah Riven is a "Fighter" to use Riots terminology. I don't mind the Assassin meta so much, but Zed is hamstringing it. Other Assassins like Ahri Kassadin and Fizz get played, but they get played because Zed is banned. They're substitute picks for Zed who is the premier Assassin and no Assassins are better than him. It's like there's this Assassin hierarchy right now. Top tier: Zed Second tier (played if Zed is banned): Ahri, Kassadin, Fizz Third tier (not played): Khazix, Leblanc, Talon, Akali, Katarina That's not really a perfect list, but I think it's indicative of what the issue is. Zed is so strong that he's keeping other Assassin choices from being played, simply because even if they're strong, they're not Zed. | ||
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SHr3DD3r
Pakistan2137 Posts
I do believe that majority of the champs in this game in their current state are definitely viable. Just need an opportunity to shine and to be tested. Rekkles is really good. By far the best adc in EU, but that ain't saying much tbh. | ||
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The_Unseen
France1923 Posts
Just a quick reminder for those who only read GD : there's a TL Inhouse on EUW tonight ! You can find all the info you need on this thread :D | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 06 2013 01:48 petered wrote: Is the game in really that bad of a place? I mean, I agree that it could definitely use changes, but not anything so drastic that a champ with 100% pick and ban at worlds couldn't use some balancing first. Edit: I agree with your edit, though. I forgot that they are already making pretty drastic game changes anyway. Systemic issues I think need to be addressed before individual champ balance: - Mana cost creep - Drafting system in competitive games - Support/jungle itemization There are a couple others that I'm not thinking of right now. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On October 06 2013 02:31 nafta wrote: Rekkles was always overrated but he is an upgrade from puszu 100%. This is probably true. He was overrated because of the magnitude that people talked him up.That said, he's still really good. On October 06 2013 02:36 TheYango wrote: Systemic issues I think need to be addressed before individual champ balance: - Mana cost creep - Drafting system in competitive games - Support/jungle itemization There are a couple others that I'm not thinking of right now. Vision | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On October 06 2013 02:39 Numy wrote: Vision and itemization go hand in hand I feel. I semi agree, if jungle and supports had more viable items worth prioritizing it might stem how both roles generally just spam wards and oracles but I still think that even if support/jungle itemization got better vision would still take overt priority. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On October 06 2013 02:37 onlywonderboy wrote: This is probably true. He was overrated because of the magnitude that people talked him up.That said, he's still really good. Vision Mana costs seems like it's a pretty straightforward fix if Riot wanted to do it. (The don't ofc because having to pay attention isn't fun or some such). I'm trying not to read too much into their big vision feedback thread, but it isn't a good hope-generator to hear Riot go on about support/jungle income and totally ignore why that happens. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On October 06 2013 02:31 Ketara wrote: Nah Riven is a "Fighter" to use Riots terminology. I don't mind the Assassin meta so much, but Zed is hamstringing it. Other Assassins like Ahri Kassadin and Fizz get played, but they get played because Zed is banned. They're substitute picks for Zed who is the premier Assassin and no Assassins are better than him. It's like there's this Assassin hierarchy right now. Top tier: Zed Second tier (played if Zed is banned): Ahri, Kassadin, Fizz Third tier (not played): Khazix, Leblanc, Talon, Akali, Katarina That's not really a perfect list, but I think it's indicative of what the issue is. Zed is so strong that he's keeping other Assassin choices from being played, simply because even if they're strong, they're not Zed. Riven, according to Morello iirc, is classified as a "light fighter". Reading between the lines, that is basically their excuse to make an assassin and dress it up as a fighter. Without heavily modifying the standard build, Riven doesn't fit as a "fighter." | ||
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