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Neo, 31.01.12
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 04:47:54
February 09 2012 04:47 GMT
#2401
CLG beats Curse in a scrim while only managing to take 1 tower (mid) the entire game and losing the first 2 dragons (out of 3). Galio/GP/Rumble/Sona ult combo just too good!
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
February 09 2012 04:48 GMT
#2402
On February 09 2012 12:50 Craton wrote:
Considering how most AP mids have the burst to instagib someone, blue or not blue doesn't matter much, especially with a jungle gank. The issue with mid in general is the lane being super short and many mages capable of just afk clearing the lane. Hug your warded side if you have to push out a bit to farm and you're pretty much good to go, carefree.

there are plenty of matchups, a majority really where it's not a 100-0 situation unless somebody does something really bad. Even veigar takes a while to start taking someone with a couple drings down in one combo.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
February 09 2012 04:49 GMT
#2403
On February 09 2012 13:47 beefhamburger wrote:
CLG beats Curse in a scrim while only managing to take 1 tower (mid) the entire game and losing the first 2 dragons (out of 3). Galio/GP/Rumble/Sona ult combo just too good!


Better throw graves in that list, too, he's got two high damage aoe skills that work into that comp.
Remember Violet.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 04:59:10
February 09 2012 04:49 GMT
#2404
Miss fortune's Q resets attack timer. Been struggling to learn how to do it properly.
edit: I guess her E and R (you shouldn't use her R for this) reset attack timer too.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 09 2012 04:50 GMT
#2405
On February 09 2012 13:47 beefhamburger wrote:
CLG beats Curse in a scrim while only managing to take 1 tower (mid) the entire game and losing the first 2 dragons (out of 3). Galio/GP/Rumble/Sona ult combo just too good!

You just decided to ignore the part where Elementz dcd ?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 04:55:38
February 09 2012 04:55 GMT
#2406
On February 09 2012 13:50 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 13:47 beefhamburger wrote:
CLG beats Curse in a scrim while only managing to take 1 tower (mid) the entire game and losing the first 2 dragons (out of 3). Galio/GP/Rumble/Sona ult combo just too good!

You just decided to ignore the part where Elementz dcd ?

Yes, I saw but liking the fights just for the fights is not crime. Seeing chain cc is always fun to watch in the moment.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#2407
Gonna miss the next CLGna vs Crs game. Someone do light recaps while the game goes please.

tyvm
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 09 2012 05:04 GMT
#2408
On February 09 2012 13:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
lol Slaughter. Riot hasn't changed release tempo since beta. :3

Back to scrims, Chaox has this raging hardon for MF since Kiev. I don't think I've seen him scrim as anyone else...


Haha maybe my mind is just latching on to that period that was posted where there was like a 2 month delay. Or im just misremembering again (happens a lot my memory SUCKS ).

Still the new guy seems kinda fun. I wasn't a fan of Viktor or Ziggs but I like Sej and Shy a lot.
Never Knows Best.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 09 2012 05:06 GMT
#2409
Quick question. CLGna has gotten beat by their EU counterparts the last few times I saw/heard of their scrims. Are they just that much better or has ELGna won a few and I really overall shouldn't read too much into what happens in these things.
Never Knows Best.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
February 09 2012 05:12 GMT
#2410
On February 09 2012 14:06 Slaughter wrote:
Quick question. CLGna has gotten beat by their EU counterparts the last few times I saw/heard of their scrims. Are they just that much better or has ELGna won a few and I really overall shouldn't read too much into what happens in these things.

Oh dear, you're being much to reasonable for LoL. CLG.eu beat CLG.na once? Then obviously CLG.eu is superior in every way - and in addition, CLG.na is completely awful and a joke. You don't need any more than one game to know that.

+ Show Spoiler +
More seriously, CLG.na has taken a few games but CLG.eu does seem a lot stronger right now. It's between them and M5 for strongest euro team IMO (though all that means is both have any stability in their lineup at all) and CLG.na just hasn't impressed me in quite a while.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 05:19:42
February 09 2012 05:17 GMT
#2411
Saintvicious and HotshotGG arguing. Again.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 05:20:19
February 09 2012 05:18 GMT
#2412
CLG: Nidalee, Trundle, Sona, Kennen, Cait
Crs: Anivia, Vlad, Janna, Shaco, Kog

Nidalee vs Anivia mid, not sure how that plays out. I missed the first minute or 2 but apparently CLG got an early kill.

Still the farm game at 10 minutes. Crs gets 1st dragon uncontested.

On February 09 2012 14:06 Slaughter wrote:
Quick question. CLGna has gotten beat by their EU counterparts the last few times I saw/heard of their scrims. Are they just that much better or has ELGna won a few and I really overall shouldn't read too much into what happens in these things.

I think CLGNA has some kinks to work out. They love the whole theorycraft business and a lot of the times like to try sub-optimal things in scrims. Personally I'd put EU above NA but not by a huge gap. NA does perform better at tourneys than scrims it seems.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
February 09 2012 05:18 GMT
#2413
The top teams can beat any other team on any given day. Just depends on which team makes the most mistakes. But with that said I think CLGeu and M5 are both slightly better than CLGna or TSM. I still think that those teams are so close that in a bo3 any of the aforementioned teams could beat one another with a very slight advantage going to the two EU teams.

Any of the top 10 teams in NA or EU are all good enough to take games off of one another though.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 09 2012 05:20 GMT
#2414
On February 09 2012 14:12 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 14:06 Slaughter wrote:
Quick question. CLGna has gotten beat by their EU counterparts the last few times I saw/heard of their scrims. Are they just that much better or has ELGna won a few and I really overall shouldn't read too much into what happens in these things.

Oh dear, you're being much to reasonable for LoL. CLG.eu beat CLG.na once? Then obviously CLG.eu is superior in every way - and in addition, CLG.na is completely awful and a joke. You don't need any more than one game to know that.

+ Show Spoiler +
More seriously, CLG.na has taken a few games but CLG.eu does seem a lot stronger right now. It's between them and M5 for strongest euro team IMO (though all that means is both have any stability in their lineup at all) and CLG.na just hasn't impressed me in quite a while.


Well thats what I was asking, the relative strength of them currently. The last few scrims I saw where very recent (including todays) and CLGna has this nasty habit of playing the flame game hard amongst themselves. Secondly I also was wondering about the matches themselves how each team approaches them (like do they take this as serious practice or is it just to play for the fans?)
Never Knows Best.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 05:22:54
February 09 2012 05:21 GMT
#2415
On February 09 2012 14:17 ManyCookies wrote:
Saintvicious and HotshotGG arguing. Again.


HSGG might have been blaming SV a bit harder than he should've been for his own death, but he also raises a really important point.

He specifically and repeatedly told SV not to gank the lane; to just leave, but he still did it anyway. Shit would piss me off too.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
February 09 2012 05:25 GMT
#2416
On February 09 2012 14:20 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 14:12 Treadmill wrote:
On February 09 2012 14:06 Slaughter wrote:
Quick question. CLGna has gotten beat by their EU counterparts the last few times I saw/heard of their scrims. Are they just that much better or has ELGna won a few and I really overall shouldn't read too much into what happens in these things.

Oh dear, you're being much to reasonable for LoL. CLG.eu beat CLG.na once? Then obviously CLG.eu is superior in every way - and in addition, CLG.na is completely awful and a joke. You don't need any more than one game to know that.

+ Show Spoiler +
More seriously, CLG.na has taken a few games but CLG.eu does seem a lot stronger right now. It's between them and M5 for strongest euro team IMO (though all that means is both have any stability in their lineup at all) and CLG.na just hasn't impressed me in quite a while.


Well thats what I was asking, the relative strength of them currently. The last few scrims I saw where very recent (including todays) and CLGna has this nasty habit of playing the flame game hard amongst themselves. Secondly I also was wondering about the matches themselves how each team approaches them (like do they take this as serious practice or is it just to play for the fans?)

Honestly I think in a month or two CLG.eu could be top 3 teams in the world (although I wouldn't really say so right now). They seem like one of the few teams that really has it together.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
February 09 2012 05:25 GMT
#2417
On February 09 2012 14:17 ManyCookies wrote:
Saintvicious and HotshotGG arguing.

I think stuff like this is the reason CLGna seems to have more off games. If someone makes a mistake during a game, it gets in their head more than CLGeu who just say "my bad" or "we'll check the replay later" and move on. Individually I think it's pretty even. SV>Snoopeh, but Froggen>jiji (sorry jiji but you're still slumping a bit)
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 05:33:26
February 09 2012 05:26 GMT
#2418
All the same, the hot potato with blame is pretty detrimental (reminds me of solo queue). The exact reason behind his death was more or less irrelevant at that point. It just seems like a good issue to discuss/argue about after the game, not during it.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 09 2012 05:37 GMT
#2419
On February 09 2012 14:26 ManyCookies wrote:
All the same, the hot potato with blame is pretty detrimental (reminds me of solo queue). The exact reason behind his death was more or less irrelevant at that point. It just seems like a good issue to discuss/argue about after the game, not during it.

They got to become good players each individually because they care so much about winning, but after that the rate at which they improve as individual players is far lower than the rate they'd improve as a team. With better communication they'd win far more games. It's not that they aren't trying either, it's just that their personalities aren't conducive to forming better communication. They need to set some rules like: "no yelling at anyone during a game, point out a flaw, then move on"
"no counter-arguing until later"

Is HSGG team captain? If he is then it's on his shoulders to make the team work.
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
February 09 2012 05:41 GMT
#2420
THAT HOTSHOT SPEAR LITERALLY 1 SHOT ELEMENTZ
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