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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17295 Posts
February 09 2012 03:50 GMT
#2381
Considering how most AP mids have the burst to instagib someone, blue or not blue doesn't matter much, especially with a jungle gank. The issue with mid in general is the lane being super short and many mages capable of just afk clearing the lane. Hug your warded side if you have to push out a bit to farm and you're pretty much good to go, carefree.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 09 2012 03:53 GMT
#2382
On February 09 2012 12:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
Without blue you pretty much kill off a lot of jungles though. Only way you could convince me to change the buff would be for it to give like 500 flat mana or something like that.


It would also make a huge increase in power for non-mana champs (who are already pretty freaking broken as is).
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 09 2012 03:58 GMT
#2383
On February 09 2012 11:37 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 11:30 gtrsrs wrote:
When did gd turn into cd (craton discussion lolz) seriously 100% of that guys posts are belittling or negnancy status

On blue buff - riot remove pls, it's a stupid mechanic. Double the cdr and remove the mana regen or something, blue buff is retardedly strong

On veigar- pick veigar based on their jungler not their ap. Never take veigster against diving junglers like ww, maokai, nocturne. Take care against Ali, shyv, skarner. Fire away against pirate, udyr, voli, rammus. Also never pick against ryze

On bly08- hey bro even though we would never join your games, Obama and I always admired your perseverance in inviting us all day erry day. Nevah change you're an inspiration

On new runes- y so aspensive? Really want to try spellvamp mundo and senuani jingle, really don't wNt to drop 6k ip on runes. Can we get a 'test mode' where everything is free, to experiment with?

^with regards to blue, that would nerf almost all mana champions. Which would mean we'd see more kennen vlad shyvana abuse than we normally already do. Having a resource actually adds skill. You can't just spam shurikens. All three of the above champions also have some of the best free escapes making them really really hard to gank when they combine that skill with their flash wtf riot D:<


I agree 100% that manalesa champs are a problem and I don't know why there are so many

You know what's worse than manalesa champs tho? Champs that are manalesa and whose skills get BETTER as they spam. Really want to know which riot employee was the one that okay'd the idea of rage and overheat. Probably wen like this: "hey guys so you know how we basically get nonstop complaints about our manaless champs and their free sustain and harass? I think I found the fix! Let's add a 'resource' where as you spam at no cost, your skills get STRONGER. this will totally teach proper resource management and add depth to laning! Once you press q 4 times, your next 4 qs will do 30% MORE DAMAGE, also at no cost! It's the perfect solution!" *shows concept art of renekton and rumble* *trollface.jpg*
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 09 2012 03:59 GMT
#2384
New champ: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/champion-sneak-peek-nautilus-titan-depths

Xypherous released his name last night by accident and all of his moves.
His Q is a hook that can grab onto terrain or champions.
W is a shield that increases damage a la Sion.
E I forget.
R is a line nuke that slows people along the line as it moves and stuns final target or something like that.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
February 09 2012 04:06 GMT
#2385
TSM just went 3-0 in scrims. 2 vs v8 and one vs Dig. CLG NA scrimming CRS now, they're at champ select atm.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
February 09 2012 04:08 GMT
#2386
Calling it now; Nautilus will be considered underpowered on release, then subsequently become top pick/ban in a month or two.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 09 2012 04:11 GMT
#2387
On February 09 2012 13:08 ManyCookies wrote:
Calling it now; Nautilus will be considered underpowered on release, then subsequently become top pick/ban in a month or two.


Please don't make comments about champions being over/underpowered, especially those that haven't even been released it.
It's just an inane opinion that is totally baseless.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 04:19:30
February 09 2012 04:13 GMT
#2388
Calling it now he will have special interaction with Fizz for no particular reason.

In any case it's being characterized as a hookshot. So you miss grabbing a champ and grab the trees behind them pulling yourself forward. It also can't be used to pull yourself through walls since it hits terrain. That seems to be his most interesting feature. I wonder if Rito really is just getting more inspiration from other games ah la the obvious Bioshock and possibly Zelda hookshot. They already said Riven was influenced by fighting games and Marth.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
February 09 2012 04:16 GMT
#2389
LMFAO, DYRUS' FLAMING HAS TAKEN SHAPE IN REAL LIFE.

Anyways, Riot is releasing too many champions, I can't buy em all, just gonna save IP until I see some new champion that is crazy awesome. That's the new plan.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
February 09 2012 04:20 GMT
#2390
"They left me to die"...

Im not ever going to save a Nautilus in game just to fulfill his lore.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 04:22:16
February 09 2012 04:21 GMT
#2391
On February 09 2012 13:11 NeoIllusions wrote:

Please don't make comments about champions being over/underpowered, especially those that haven't even been released it.
It's just an inane opinion that is totally baseless.


I didn't mean that as judgement or passive-agressive commentary on Riot's balancing or whatever. It's the Xypherous effect; his champions (Renekton, Orianna, Riven) tend to come out seemingly underpowered, possibly buffed somewhat, then become stupidly powerful.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 09 2012 04:29 GMT
#2392
It seems like Riot is releasing champs at a fast pace....it seemed like it wasn't as fast before and I don't like the constant champ releases. Put some space in there yo.
Never Knows Best.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
February 09 2012 04:31 GMT
#2393
On February 09 2012 13:29 Slaughter wrote:
It seems like Riot is releasing champs at a fast pace....it seemed like it wasn't as fast before and I don't like the constant champ releases. Put some space in there yo.


Every two weeks has been their pattern for quite a while now...
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 09 2012 04:32 GMT
#2394
lol Slaughter. Riot hasn't changed release tempo since beta. :3

Back to scrims, Chaox has this raging hardon for MF since Kiev. I don't think I've seen him scrim as anyone else...
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 09 2012 04:33 GMT
#2395
On February 09 2012 13:29 Slaughter wrote:
It seems like Riot is releasing champs at a fast pace....it seemed like it wasn't as fast before and I don't like the constant champ releases. Put some space in there yo.


??
it has always been every 2 weeks, they only slowed down some time ago because of big tournaments and other issues that needed attention, but it was always temporary.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 09 2012 04:39 GMT
#2396
On February 09 2012 13:32 NeoIllusions wrote:
lol Slaughter. Riot hasn't changed release tempo since beta. :3

Back to scrims, Chaox has this raging hardon for MF since Kiev. I don't think I've seen him scrim as anyone else...

And I dont quite get it either. Not a huge MF fan here.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17295 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 04:44:39
February 09 2012 04:42 GMT
#2397
Actually the release rate has been quite varied. If we start in October of 2009, there was a 2 month gap between release of champs, then 2 weeks, then another month, then two released at once, then 3 weeks intervals from February to March, then a one week delay, then 2 weeks, then 3 weeks, then 2 weeks, then 3 weeks, then 1 week, then 2 weeks, then 3 weeks, etc. 2 week intervals were most of 2011, but over the summer it was 3 week intervals.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_champions
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 04:47:21
February 09 2012 04:42 GMT
#2398
Very few champs come out underpowered. It's just that people don't really know how to play them, or that the current champ picks don't necessarily bring out the champs full potential. So they get shunned until someone finally picks up the champ and figures them out correctly.
Some champs are sometimes UP on release, but it's rare, and often they get buffed heavily the next patch and make them OP lol (skarner for instance). They want the champ to be strong, and to seem cool, that way it sells.

edit: The whole release schedule is supposed to be every 2 weeks. It's constantly been changed because of different reasons since October:
tournaments, tech issues, the holiday season, and the release of the new servers.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
February 09 2012 04:42 GMT
#2399
MF is the strongest laning ad in the game. Cait may or may not beat MF. Not too sure about that, but MF has really really strong laning.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
February 09 2012 04:45 GMT
#2400
On February 09 2012 13:42 0123456789 wrote:
MF is the strongest laning ad in the game. Cait may or may not beat MF. Not too sure about that, but MF has really really strong laning.


MF is a real big bully in lane. Make it Rain is 2strong and impure shots healing reduction is GG
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