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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 08 2012 23:21 GMT
#2341
On February 09 2012 08:15 r.Evo wrote:
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New Summoner Rewards Coming Soon!

In keeping with this objective, we’re going to begin distributing some rewards to our new players to help them on their way to level 30. Once a new summoner reaches level 3 they will receive 400 Riot Points as a reward for their participation and perseverance up to that point.


Riot so generous.

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/news/new-summoner-rewards-coming-soon


Don't you hit level 2 after the tutorial, and level 3 after one game? If that's perseverance I'm a canonized saint.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
February 08 2012 23:28 GMT
#2342
On February 09 2012 07:01 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 06:43 arnath wrote:
On February 09 2012 06:25 Craton wrote:
Eventually, but there are some games you can't carry and it's often the case that an Udyr jungler can't stop all lanes from losing.

To be fair, if all three of your lanes are losing straight up there's nothing you're ever going to be able to do as a jungler, regardless of what hero you're playing.


It depends on how badly the three lanes are losing though. One death and a slight CS disadvantage means that you lost your lane but the game isn't unwinnable. Now if all three lanes are feeding, yeah, you're probably fucked. But I've had several games where every lane loses yet we still manage to come back and win because we either have a team that can defend well or the opposing team lacks pushing power or poke.


It all comes down to communication I believe and unfortunately it's rare to meet understanding players that don't whine/rage/flame at you for feeding/dying or whatever wrong move you do.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
February 08 2012 23:29 GMT
#2343
It should be level 20 or 30, honestly. Better to have people have a basic understanding of the game before going out to spend their RP. So many people gonna buy 450IP champs with RP now.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 23:32:24
February 08 2012 23:31 GMT
#2344
Cheapest champion is 585, 3 skins are under 400, most xp boosts and 1 Ip boost are under it.
Sounds less like a perseverance away and more like a badly disguised attempt at getting people to buy points.

not counting the 450 ip champs but seriously thats like 5 games.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
February 08 2012 23:37 GMT
#2345
Yeah my immediate reaction was that 400 RP literally isn't enough to buy anything except a cheap skin on a 50% sale.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 23:40:14
February 08 2012 23:37 GMT
#2346
the RP 'package' system is so abusive. I doubt there is any legitimate reason you couldn't just enter the amount of RP you want and pay according to the same curve they currently have. The "we would get screwed on transaction costs" argument is bullshit too, they could just have the same minimum purchase amount they have now.

That and rune pages give me a pretty jaundiced view of their general methods of getting money from us.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 23:46:10
February 08 2012 23:44 GMT
#2347
Oh the joys of playing with a support in ranked who enjoys doing his job and is good at it. This sona did fucking WORK <3 and the team was nice, everyone saying gj whenever someone did something good and no blame game when someone did something bad or we lost a team fight.

Cheers to you MrPlasticJesus!

Side note, the game was surreal because at 1100ish elo EVERYONE was buying wards, rotating oracle buying to clear wards ON BOTH sides and generally had a much greater grasp then what I have ever seen in a game at my elo thus far. Was crazy.
Never Knows Best.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
February 08 2012 23:48 GMT
#2348
On February 09 2012 08:29 Craton wrote:
It should be level 20 or 30, honestly. Better to have people have a basic understanding of the game before going out to spend their RP. So many people gonna buy 450IP champs with RP now.

Quite the thought out business move on their part. 400 isn't much to someone who has been playing very long. Though to the beginner why not spend some extra money to get that awesome 450rp new champ!
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
February 08 2012 23:49 GMT
#2349
is doublelift a retard quote machine? SV says that the cdr on blue buff is worth "thousands of gold" so doublelift counters with "lucidity boots are 750 gold", yes because lucidity boots are viable ;/ you have to compare it to the cdr value on items you can actually get, and in that situation getting 20% is in the region of 2000g

this was in reference to blue buff being op, and much stronger than red buff (in SV's opinion)
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
February 08 2012 23:59 GMT
#2350
On February 09 2012 08:49 turdburgler wrote:
is doublelift a retard quote machine? SV says that the cdr on blue buff is worth "thousands of gold" so doublelift counters with "lucidity boots are 750 gold", yes because lucidity boots are viable ;/ you have to compare it to the cdr value on items you can actually get, and in that situation getting 20% is in the region of 2000g

this was in reference to blue buff being op, and much stronger than red buff (in SV's opinion)

Ohai TL. Why you post so much QQ.

Just a random insert here, but Doublelift used to consider Lucidy viable boots on Blitz. Tbh, when you listen to him and put him in the Blitz/Garen/Poppy-only mindset, a lot of what he says makes more sense. Unfortunately, he's now AD Carry. So yah lol. So much Hyuk.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
February 09 2012 00:05 GMT
#2351
On February 09 2012 08:49 turdburgler wrote:
is doublelift a retard quote machine? SV says that the cdr on blue buff is worth "thousands of gold" so doublelift counters with "lucidity boots are 750 gold", yes because lucidity boots are viable ;/ you have to compare it to the cdr value on items you can actually get, and in that situation getting 20% is in the region of 2000g

not true, double boots build real stronk
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Zelc
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 00:13:08
February 09 2012 00:11 GMT
#2352
On February 09 2012 08:49 turdburgler wrote:
is doublelift a retard quote machine? SV says that the cdr on blue buff is worth "thousands of gold" so doublelift counters with "lucidity boots are 750 gold", yes because lucidity boots are viable ;/ you have to compare it to the cdr value on items you can actually get, and in that situation getting 20% is in the region of 2000g

That can't be right. Glacial Shroud's upgrade only costs 425 gold and gets you 225 mana with 15% CDR. Even if you have no use for mana, it's still only 825 gold for 15% CDR (plus 700 gold for the 45 armor from Chain Vest).

I guess if you have absolutely no use for either mana or armor, it's pretty expensive for the CDR. Then you'd probably get Morello's Evil Tome which does cost 2350 gold, but comes with 75 AP.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
February 09 2012 00:18 GMT
#2353
Ìt may not be worth thousands of gold but to get 20-25% cdr you need to spend thousands of gold somewhat on stats you don't need.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 00:20:13
February 09 2012 00:19 GMT
#2354
Honestly speaking, if we're going to blindly gold value the stats on blue, the big clincher is that 100 mp5 is worth 5.5k gold.

Practically speaking, putting gold value on buffs that don't take item slots is awkward in and of itself.

On February 09 2012 09:18 Slayer91 wrote:
Ìt may not be worth thousands of gold but to get 20-25% cdr you need to spend thousands of gold somewhat on stats you don't need.

Technically you don't, because you could get that CDR from runes/masteries, and the opportunity cost would simply be the runed/masteried stats you give up to get that CDR.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 09 2012 00:19 GMT
#2355
IMO Blue is worth an infinite amount of gold. You cant put a price on never running out of mana.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 00:22:30
February 09 2012 00:21 GMT
#2356
On February 09 2012 09:19 Two_DoWn wrote:
IMO Blue is worth an infinite amount of gold. You cant put a price on never running out of mana.

Well, technically you can, because you can actually buy that much mana/mp5. But again, that takes item slots, and blue doesn't.
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
February 09 2012 00:22 GMT
#2357
Guess who's carrying tsm in ranked 5?
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Oddone's shaco
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 00:23:28
February 09 2012 00:22 GMT
#2358
On February 09 2012 09:19 Two_DoWn wrote:
IMO Blue is worth an infinite amount of gold. You cant put a price on never running out of mana.


Chalice! Been running philo/chalice maokai instead of the glacial shroud shit and it sustains you all game long without ever running out of mana in reasonable circumstances.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 09 2012 00:24 GMT
#2359
On February 09 2012 08:49 turdburgler wrote:
is doublelift a retard quote machine? SV says that the cdr on blue buff is worth "thousands of gold" so doublelift counters with "lucidity boots are 750 gold", yes because lucidity boots are viable ;/ you have to compare it to the cdr value on items you can actually get, and in that situation getting 20% is in the region of 2000g

this was in reference to blue buff being op, and much stronger than red buff (in SV's opinion)

tbh i quit listening to anything doublelift says ages ago
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
February 09 2012 00:37 GMT
#2360
Cooldown reduction costs virtually nothing.

Stinger: 10% CDR, 40% attack speed, 1090 gold
Recurve Bow: 40% attack speed, 1050 gold

10% CDR costs 40 gold. Thus blue buff is only worth 80 gold. Of course, you have to want attack speed.
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