EPT[Poll] Dog vs. Human - Page 34
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Souldrinkah
Sweden48 Posts
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Flyingdutchman
Netherlands858 Posts
 , so I'm going to say it depends on the dog/person combination. The handlers in the video would have a good chance against any dog | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:26 Xapti wrote: Just because a dog can survive one or more hits doesn't mean they could withstand continual assault on the same area — it's the same way with humans. The best fighters have good resilience to getting knocked out or winded or getting their ribs broken, but it does still happen when enough hits are landed. Dogs are smaller animals and have weaker bones, so it's certainly viable, I'd say. I did it probably 10 times. Punched it in the head about 10 times, punched it in the nose a few times, punched and knee'd it in the neck plenty of times, even ran up to it and kicked it. The same amount of force on a human would have left him on the ground easy. | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:28 FullNatural wrote: If a dog clamps down on an un protected limb with intent. There is nothing that a human is going to be able to do. I'm sorry. In Police-dog work yeah that's all that needs to happen — dogs are very good at immobilizing and distracting targets. However when a dog bites onto something, it losses it's main attack limb; the human still has at least 1, technically 3, limbs it can use to retaliate with. | ||
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Vivax
22300 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:15 sluggaslamoo wrote: Won't work, I've tried punching a dog on the head, doesn't do shit. It seems like the best way just from reading this thread is to choke it, but that takes some serious balls. And if you watched the vod I posted, the guy tries to grab the dogs neck and it just slips out of it. If that doesn't work I'm pretty much out fo clues. I watched your vid but those dogs all had lots of momentum from the built up speed when they jumped onto their victims. We are talking of a narrow room. Other solutions I can think of would involve your weight.You have to somehow manage to sit on it so it can't escape, then use your free arm to pressure it's throat. Problem is that you have to lean forward to apply pressure with your weight, and that brings your throat closer to his teeth while you are choking it, so it's kinda a high risk solution. | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:30 FullNatural wrote: This dog clamped down on my arm when I had the advantage and he was blind to me. He re directed on my arm before I could even tell what was happening. Imagine what would happen if the dog is being RELEASED on a human with intent to kill as OP states. You were trying to break up a fight. You weren't trying to kill the animal. If you were, your approach would have been totally different. Don't underestimate the combination Human + Adrenaline. | ||
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:30 FullNatural wrote: This dog clamped down on my arm when I had the advantage and he was blind to me. He re directed on my arm before I could even tell what was happening. Imagine what would happen if the dog is being RELEASED on a human with intent to kill as OP states. I know we all like to pretend were MMA fighers. But OP says average male. The average mall is about 5'10 170 pounds and not in life or death fighting type condition. OP states that both dog and human 1v1 in a regular room in a fight to the death with the intent to KILL In your situation,were you going in to BREAK UP FIGHTS OR GOING IN TO KILL? There is a difference.Your situation don't comply with OP situation. Presumeably from your situation, you were caught off guard. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:34 Vivax wrote: If that doesn't work I'm pretty much out fo clues. I watched your vid but those dogs all had lots of momentum from the built up speed when they jumped onto their victims. We are talking of a narrow room. Other solutions I can think of would involve your weight.You have to somehow manage to sit on it so it can't escape, then use your free arm to pressure it's throat. Problem is that you have to lean forward to apply pressure with your weight, and that brings your throat closer to his teeth while you are choking it, so it's kinda a high risk solution. That's where I see the problem. Because your natural instinct is to try and keep your distance while fighting, you are even taught that in a lot of martial arts. Unlike humans though punching and kicking seems to make no difference, and when a dog is launching towards you, good luck roundhouse kicking a dog in mid-air unless you play for Real Madrid. Not to mention that the dog will make hundreds of attempts if it doesn't work the first time. In this case you kinda need to get close and grapple it, however if you slip up that gives the dog free reign to do whatever it wants, its kinda like an all-in. On July 21 2012 19:35 maartendq wrote: You were trying to break up a fight. You weren't trying to kill the animal. If you were, your approach would have been totally different. Don't underestimate the combination Human + Adrenaline. Adrenalin isn't like some magic wonder drug. It might make 10% of difference to your reflexes and strength, and you won't feel pain, but it will completely ruin your composure and accuracy. | ||
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TheMooseHeed
United Kingdom535 Posts
However even if they had clothes the human would get minced. I saw a german shepard yesterday that was half my height (I am 6'3) and had a head almost half the size of my upper torso. I would get fucked up and I am a physically active person and would consider myself above average in terms of physicality. The fight would go like this. He wont fight like a man maintaining his distance he will rush you, take you down with his momentum, tear out your throat. GG no re | ||
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Dephy
Lithuania163 Posts
Also im pretty fucking sure just grabbing any of the dog's limb and snapping it in any direction will instantly incapacitate it. Also no fight in reality would go that way(unless its like in a boxing ring or something, but then human would be totaly ready for it with some strategy, for example running straight up at the dog, pushing him on the ground and then just killing him with punches), since human naturally grabs any shit that lays on the ground(for example rocks or sticks) and pounds it into the opponent. i doubt dog would have much of a chance. Wolfs(dogs included) are specially evoled to tire out there pray with chasing and kill them in packs. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
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Piste
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FullNatural
United States180 Posts
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FullNatural
United States180 Posts
On July 21 2012 19:45 karpo wrote: Saying that a dog biting down on an extremity leaves you still with 3 to attack to the dogs 0 is not valid. A ferocious dog claming down on a limb makes you totally unable to use the other legs/arms to fight properly. what this guy said. | ||
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Holy_AT
Austria978 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imagecache.blastro.com/images/feat/Lastfm_RoyJonesJr..jpg) Who would win ? | ||
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Holy_AT
Austria978 Posts
Well if it was to be a fair fight then the human would have to be naked to be equivelent to the dog. I think its unfair to canel out the human advantage. Our advantage is to use tools to plan and to prepare. Not allowing this is like pulling the teeth from the dog and sending him to the fight. | ||
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sirkyan
211 Posts
On July 21 2012 18:39 kochanfe wrote: As to the man vs pig contest though, I suppose (whether or not the human could get a good angle) an unarmed human would have an extremely difficult time actually finishing the pig off. While it may be true that it's hard to actually finish it, if you've ever seen one of those horrible farm-bad-slaughter/anti-meateating videos put out by activists, a lot of the time the pigs there are kicked in the head (or beat with a stick, which is similar to a well placed kick), and fall over. I'm not saying they die, but a couple of more would take care of it. Anyway, I don't want to think about animal vs human anymore. If a dog attacked me, I would have zero intent in fighting unarmed. If I did, I'd lose and so would most people. I don't think people realize how hard these guys bite. They will literally fuck your limb up really really fast. Yes, you will have adrenaline but adrenaline does little to restore use in a severed muscle and nerves gone. If you're a bit lucky and get the dog on the side and gets a knee right in its wind pipe to crack you have a good chance of surviving before he kills you. But yeah.. | ||
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RoberP
United Kingdom101 Posts
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Holy_AT
Austria978 Posts
Having half your body weight ripping the flesh from your arm what are you talking about ???If you take trained monster dog against untrained weak human its clear who has the upperhand ... The whole test is not fair. Just take the whole dog poulation -> then take only the shepard dogs -> then take only fit healthy shepard dogs -> then shepard dogs who are good at fighting or have actual training in it. Having this selection process you could also single out the best bodied able humans and it would look different ... | ||
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