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Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
July 21 2012 11:15 GMT
#681
1v1 considering both are on a relative equal phisical state for their race. Human wins, no doubt, a big fit dog vs a big fit man? no chance to the poor dog, his only chance is to catch the guy unaware, and given how the situation is described, that would be difficult.
Dog rushes and jumps, man, twists, dodges moves slightly enough for the dog to fallto the ground, and from them on man lays on top and pounds.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
July 21 2012 11:20 GMT
#682
No way an average guy would stand any chance. You keep talking about the dog clamping on your arm and not letting go or whatever, but that's not what the dog's going to do. That's what the dog does when he's trained to disable somebody. If he wants to kill somebody, he's going for the stomach or the throat, perhaps immediately after he rips off half of one of your arms. With a german shepherd this fight would not be close.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 21 2012 11:29 GMT
#683
Offer it your arm and lift it from the ground.

Any person who know how to handle dogs and are empowered by adrenalin will not lose, unless attacked by surprise.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
RobbieF
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia28 Posts
July 21 2012 11:30 GMT
#684
Friend of mine was dirt bike riding in the bush when a large wild dog jumped from the side of the road and pulled him from his bike. Dog was dead withing 30 seconds, even after surviving a motorbike accident and the dog did not stand a chance. Ok he was wearing some protective gear but it didn't come into play . He was sore for a few days and had some pretty bad bite marks on him, but it wasn't as if it took him 10 minutes and it was the at all even. The dog just didn't have the height reach or strength of a very angry dude and was just picked up, whilst biting him and slammed into the ground and then did it again and then it was over.
If only I was smart enough to write something clever.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 21 2012 11:31 GMT
#685
On July 21 2012 20:20 Cel.erity wrote:
No way an average guy would stand any chance. You keep talking about the dog clamping on your arm and not letting go or whatever, but that's not what the dog's going to do. That's what the dog does when he's trained to disable somebody. If he wants to kill somebody, he's going for the stomach or the throat, perhaps immediately after he rips off half of one of your arms. With a german shepherd this fight would not be close.

If you offer it your arm, it will go for it. It's in it's nature to go for exposed areas.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
PanzerPony
Profile Joined April 2011
85 Posts
July 21 2012 11:33 GMT
#686
Here's what professionals think about it:

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/HowTo:Win_a_Fight_Against_Your_Dog

Seriously though, my area has a lot of stray dogs, and I have specifically done research on how I can defend myself if attacked. People who train dogs seem to agree that an unarmed (even trained) human has 0 chance against a trained dog. This is because dogs are several times faster that a human, and a trained dog knows where to attack and will immediately throw the human off-balance. If the dog is untrained, it will usually instinctively grab the closest limb which it sees moving. So, if you wrap your arm in some thick fabric, and put it in front of you, the dog will bite on that, and hopefully you'll be able to get on top of the dog and crush it with your knees and elbows.

A lot of ppl in this thread seem to be rether over-confident about their chances vs a dog.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
July 21 2012 11:36 GMT
#687
On July 21 2012 20:33 PanzerPony wrote:
Here's what professionals think about it:

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/HowTo:Win_a_Fight_Against_Your_Dog

Seriously though, my area has a lot of stray dogs, and I have specifically done research on how I can defend myself if attacked. People who train dogs seem to agree that an unarmed (even trained) human has 0 chance against a trained dog. This is because dogs are several times faster that a human, and a trained dog knows where to attack and will immediately throw the human off-balance. If the dog is untrained, it will usually instinctively grab the closest limb which it sees moving. So, if you wrap your arm in some thick fabric, and put it in front of you, the dog will bite on that, and hopefully you'll be able to get on top of the dog and crush it with your knees and elbows.

A lot of ppl in this thread seem to be rether over-confident about their chances vs a dog.

I really doubt that all the training a dog could have would give it any chance vs a massive sweeping kick to the body. Dog has no chance.
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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
July 21 2012 11:39 GMT
#688
On July 21 2012 20:29 Jek wrote:
Offer it your arm and lift it from the ground.

Any person who know how to handle dogs and are empowered by adrenalin will not lose, unless attacked by surprise.


I thought this discussion was about a person who does not know how to handle dogs?
We found Dove in a soapless place.
smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 11:47:14
July 21 2012 11:44 GMT
#689
Twice the body weight and four usable limbs. Use your head people. The only way it can kill you is at the throat or the groin. Putting a fist or a boot in that trajectory is not a difficult thing to do. If you don't hit it, your limb is still in the way, which it would latch onto. Then you simply pin it and place your knee on its throat or something along these lines. The German Shepard would win a percentage of the time. But it would be significantly less than 50. Someone said it would take a 400 pound man of solid muscle. What freaking world are you living in where dogs are eight times more powerful per pound of muscle? I would put my money on a 90 pound girl if I knew she wasn't the type to panic.
There is no cow level
PanzerPony
Profile Joined April 2011
85 Posts
July 21 2012 11:47 GMT
#690
On July 21 2012 20:36 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 20:33 PanzerPony wrote:
Here's what professionals think about it:

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/HowTo:Win_a_Fight_Against_Your_Dog

Seriously though, my area has a lot of stray dogs, and I have specifically done research on how I can defend myself if attacked. People who train dogs seem to agree that an unarmed (even trained) human has 0 chance against a trained dog. This is because dogs are several times faster that a human, and a trained dog knows where to attack and will immediately throw the human off-balance. If the dog is untrained, it will usually instinctively grab the closest limb which it sees moving. So, if you wrap your arm in some thick fabric, and put it in front of you, the dog will bite on that, and hopefully you'll be able to get on top of the dog and crush it with your knees and elbows.

A lot of ppl in this thread seem to be rether over-confident about their chances vs a dog.

I really doubt that all the training a dog could have would give it any chance vs a massive sweeping kick to the body. Dog has no chance.


It won't receive any massive sweeping kicks to its body. Try to deliver a massive sweeping kick to a body of a human - is the guy just going to stand around waiting for your kick to land?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28869 Posts
July 21 2012 11:49 GMT
#691
i don't think people realize how incredibly tough dogs are
a german shepherd is very similar (granted, smaller) to this:



personally, I happen to be both bigger, stronger and better at fighting than the average human, but I would not want to fight a bison. especially the technique of like, "kicking the dog until it dies" or whatever, that's not gonna work, a kick towards a charging dog is not gonna hurt it in a significant way. you will end up wrestling with it and the dog will inflict serious bite wounds.

that being said I still think I'd win, and I think any person tough enough to deal with the pain of meat being torn from his flesh while smart enough to break the dog's legs (only reasonably scrawny part they have), would win.
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WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
July 21 2012 11:51 GMT
#692
I would poke it in the eyes so hard it would bleed. GG
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Killmo
Profile Joined October 2011
China82 Posts
July 21 2012 11:52 GMT
#693
This is insane. Let me put this in perspective for some of you people who think you could win a fight against a dog. I used to have a bloodhound who weight a hair under one hundred pounds. He was the aggressive type when it came to food. He would never try to kill me, but he would chomp the hell out of me whenever I got too close to him while he was pissed off. He and I got in at least seven fights over his life.

Now for the part that is more relevant. I am 6' 4" and was 300 LBs at the time. I lost every single one of the fights. If he had at any point wanted to kill me I would have had less than a 1% chance of stopping him. I have taken some classes and I know how to fight properly. I am by no mean pro, but I am much bigger, stronger, and well versed in fighting than an average person. Even with all of these advantages I was never a match.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
July 21 2012 11:59 GMT
#694
People saying they'd just kick the dog I don't think understand how wolves / an insanely pissed off GS would attack you. It's not like they walk up like a boxer and size you up. They fucking charge and tackle you. You'd have to be one hell of an MMA expert to time a kick to meet this thing:



smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
July 21 2012 11:59 GMT
#695
On July 21 2012 20:47 PanzerPony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 20:36 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 21 2012 20:33 PanzerPony wrote:
Here's what professionals think about it:

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/HowTo:Win_a_Fight_Against_Your_Dog

Seriously though, my area has a lot of stray dogs, and I have specifically done research on how I can defend myself if attacked. People who train dogs seem to agree that an unarmed (even trained) human has 0 chance against a trained dog. This is because dogs are several times faster that a human, and a trained dog knows where to attack and will immediately throw the human off-balance. If the dog is untrained, it will usually instinctively grab the closest limb which it sees moving. So, if you wrap your arm in some thick fabric, and put it in front of you, the dog will bite on that, and hopefully you'll be able to get on top of the dog and crush it with your knees and elbows.

A lot of ppl in this thread seem to be rether over-confident about their chances vs a dog.

I really doubt that all the training a dog could have would give it any chance vs a massive sweeping kick to the body. Dog has no chance.


It won't receive any massive sweeping kicks to its body. Try to deliver a massive sweeping kick to a body of a human - is the guy just going to stand around waiting for your kick to land?


No, he's going to block with one of his four limbs.
There is no cow level
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 12:05:16
July 21 2012 12:04 GMT
#696
Wow I just made a post saying how kicking a dog makes no difference, and every post after that says kick the dog rofl.

On July 21 2012 20:59 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 20:47 PanzerPony wrote:
On July 21 2012 20:36 Scaramanga wrote:
On July 21 2012 20:33 PanzerPony wrote:
Here's what professionals think about it:

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/HowTo:Win_a_Fight_Against_Your_Dog

Seriously though, my area has a lot of stray dogs, and I have specifically done research on how I can defend myself if attacked. People who train dogs seem to agree that an unarmed (even trained) human has 0 chance against a trained dog. This is because dogs are several times faster that a human, and a trained dog knows where to attack and will immediately throw the human off-balance. If the dog is untrained, it will usually instinctively grab the closest limb which it sees moving. So, if you wrap your arm in some thick fabric, and put it in front of you, the dog will bite on that, and hopefully you'll be able to get on top of the dog and crush it with your knees and elbows.

A lot of ppl in this thread seem to be rether over-confident about their chances vs a dog.

I really doubt that all the training a dog could have would give it any chance vs a massive sweeping kick to the body. Dog has no chance.


It won't receive any massive sweeping kicks to its body. Try to deliver a massive sweeping kick to a body of a human - is the guy just going to stand around waiting for your kick to land?


No, he's going to block with one of his four limbs.


You don't block a kick rofl, you parry it at most.
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SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
July 21 2012 12:05 GMT
#697
A dog would win in this situation 999 times out of 1000.

You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise.
derpinator
Profile Joined December 2011
74 Posts
July 21 2012 12:07 GMT
#698
I absolutely love german sheppards and owned one myself. It really depends on the person fighting in the ring if hes able to survive or not, although I couldnt imagen a german sheppard to be so agressive. I personally would just step into the ring and command the animal with my superior charisma and keep it as my pet. I would later train the dog to hunt zerg players.
smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
July 21 2012 12:07 GMT
#699
On July 21 2012 20:59 DannyJ wrote:
People saying they'd just kick the dog I don't think understand how wolves / an insanely pissed off GS would attack you. It's not like they walk up like a boxer and size you up. They fucking charge and tackle you. You'd have to be one hell of an MMA expert to time a kick to meet this thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcdYzCsKVn8



That video isn't relevant, the dogs purpose is to incapacitate the human for apprehension. Without the cops present the human would easily win from the ground. But there's not really any timing involved, you simply need to place a limb in the way of your throat or groin and it simply can't kill you.
There is no cow level
Holy_AT
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria978 Posts
July 21 2012 12:08 GMT
#700
On July 21 2012 20:52 Killmo wrote:
This is insane. Let me put this in perspective for some of you people who think you could win a fight against a dog. I used to have a bloodhound who weight a hair under one hundred pounds. He was the aggressive type when it came to food. He would never try to kill me, but he would chomp the hell out of me whenever I got too close to him while he was pissed off. He and I got in at least seven fights over his life.

Now for the part that is more relevant. I am 6' 4" and was 300 LBs at the time. I lost every single one of the fights. If he had at any point wanted to kill me I would have had less than a 1% chance of stopping him. I have taken some classes and I know how to fight properly. I am by no mean pro, but I am much bigger, stronger, and well versed in fighting than an average person. Even with all of these advantages I was never a match.


So you had a large dog that you could barely handle and who was fighting/attack you ?
Gratulations... thats really an achievment ... I have had 5 or 6 dos in my life time 2 of them I dug personally into the ground in winter when the floor was frozen solid to give them a propper burrial when they died of old age, but you sir seem unfit to handle a dog and you are a danger to yourself and to your surrounding if this what you are writing here is true !
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