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NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28914 Posts
January 01 2026 23:50 GMT
#18161
Return Jämtland og Härjedalen to its rightful owners.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17861 Posts
January 02 2026 00:13 GMT
#18162
This reminds me of a territorial dispute between Canada and Denmark that was going on for 49 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky_War

49 years of conflict, 0 lives were lost, peaceful resolution was achieved
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17861 Posts
January 02 2026 00:37 GMT
#18163
News from the front:

Ukrainian intelligence released information about their recent operation. Some of you may be familiar with Denis Kapustin - involved with the Russian Volunteer Corps (Russians fighting on the side of Ukraine). Ukrainian intelligence has faked his death to oust an assassination attempt on him. Ukrainian agents who acted as would-be-assassins took $500m from Russian intelligence for this, money that is now being used to arm RVC.

Latest Russian attack on strategic military target was successful. They hit a zoo in Kharkiv, killing most of the birds and wounding some lions. Two tigers are on the loose according to the reports.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44398 Posts
January 02 2026 00:46 GMT
#18164
$500k

$500m should have sounded untrue to you, it’s too big a number.
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Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2605 Posts
January 02 2026 02:06 GMT
#18165
Is the Putin assassination attempt hoax part of a plan to justify mass mobilization? The reason I ask, and kind of guess it is. Is that it was very easy to prove as false to even Trump, externally it does not seem to have much of a benefit to Russia.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17861 Posts
January 02 2026 10:58 GMT
#18166
On January 02 2026 09:46 KwarK wrote:
$500k

$500m should have sounded untrue to you, it’s too big a number.


Yes, was a mistake on my part. Read half a million, wanted to write 500k but million was still stuck in my head. Brainfart.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8281 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-02 13:11:23
January 02 2026 13:07 GMT
#18167
On January 02 2026 11:06 Billyboy wrote:
Is the Putin assassination attempt hoax part of a plan to justify mass mobilization? The reason I ask, and kind of guess it is. Is that it was very easy to prove as false to even Trump, externally it does not seem to have much of a benefit to Russia.


Nah, it's to stop the peace plan US and Ukraine suddenly agreed upon. Russia doesn't want peace, and needed a way out while not ending up seeming like the unreasonable party.

"Yeah we would totally have agreed to peace by now if not for the evil Ukrainians! Who apparently went for a legitimate target in war, which is also the same thing we have tried 10 times already!"
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2605 Posts
January 03 2026 18:40 GMT
#18168
It is kind of strange to think about how ProRussia Trump has been, but then how bad he has been for Russia's allies.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9331 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-03 19:50:37
January 03 2026 19:43 GMT
#18169
I don't think it's strange. Actually I think it fits the Russian mentality that hasn't changed since the 19th century very well.

Venezuela is in the American sphere of influence so Trump can do whatever he wants there and Russia should obviously just fuck off.
Iran is in the grey zone, wants to have its own foreign policy and Russia isn't willing to sacrifice anything to help them, so he's okay with bombing Iran.
Ukraine is in the buffer zone but Russia wants it in its sphere, so he's trying to find a way to rob the country together with Putin in a mutually beneficial way.
Whatever happens in China or North Korea is no longer important as long as they stay away from the American interests.
Belarus is firmly in the Russian sphere so he's okay with making deals with Lukashenko in exchange for lifting sanctions that don't directly benefit America.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17861 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-04 08:03:38
January 04 2026 08:02 GMT
#18170
On January 04 2026 04:43 Sent. wrote:
I don't think it's strange. Actually I think it fits the Russian mentality that hasn't changed since the 19th century very well.

Venezuela is in the American sphere of influence so Trump can do whatever he wants there and Russia should obviously just fuck off.
Iran is in the grey zone, wants to have its own foreign policy and Russia isn't willing to sacrifice anything to help them, so he's okay with bombing Iran.
Ukraine is in the buffer zone but Russia wants it in its sphere, so he's trying to find a way to rob the country together with Putin in a mutually beneficial way.
Whatever happens in China or North Korea is no longer important as long as they stay away from the American interests.
Belarus is firmly in the Russian sphere so he's okay with making deals with Lukashenko in exchange for lifting sanctions that don't directly benefit America.


Well, Moscow has strongly condemned US action in Venezuela so it doesn't seem like they're really buddy-buddy.

When it comes to China and Taiwan for example there's been a lot of conflicting messaging sent by the US. First they cut Taiwan's military support by $400m and now they want to give them $11b in military aid... Maybe Trump admin has realized that their military is only the best because of tech and 90% of their chips are made in Taiwan.

All in all what's happening now all over the globe is actually crazy and it makes me really scared because there's no telling where and when this will end.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12592 Posts
January 04 2026 14:30 GMT
#18171
Oh no we know where it ends. The far right is rising everywhere, the far right requires war to be legitimate. Possibly there is also some calculations that with a few billion less humans we can deal with climate change easier. It ends in war. We've known for a while.
No will to live, no wish to die
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12175 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-04 19:12:11
January 04 2026 19:11 GMT
#18172
On January 04 2026 23:30 Nebuchad wrote:
Oh no we know where it ends. The far right is rising everywhere, the far right requires war to be legitimate. Possibly there is also some calculations that with a few billion less humans we can deal with climate change easier. It ends in war. We've known for a while.


I disagree that they need wars to be legitimate. They need an "external" enemy to deflect towards. Immigrants, jews, muslims, christians, lgbt or women can work decently even within your own country.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18476 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-04 19:59:54
January 04 2026 19:54 GMT
#18173
On January 05 2026 04:11 Yurie wrote:
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On January 04 2026 23:30 Nebuchad wrote:
Oh no we know where it ends. The far right is rising everywhere, the far right requires war to be legitimate. Possibly there is also some calculations that with a few billion less humans we can deal with climate change easier. It ends in war. We've known for a while.


I disagree that they need wars to be legitimate. They need an "external" enemy to deflect towards. Immigrants, jews, muslims, christians, lgbt or women can work decently even within your own country.

There's many different flavors of fascism. Spain under Franco and Portugal under Salazar were not that interested in foreign conquest. Although Estado Novo policy was definitely to retain their colonies at all cost. But Nazism is without any doubt expansionist, as was Italy under Mussolini. And if we count Imperial Japan as a form of fascism, then that too. For modern examples, Putin and Trump's flavors are obviously expansionist. Erdogan and Orban not so much. You could say it's down to national historical imperialist notions, but both Hungary and Turkey were large empires in not too far a past, and an expansionist ideology could absolutely draw on that history in their rhetoric and iconography. But they don't.

European far right seems more inward focused than expansionist. But if the AfD were to rise to power in Germany they may very well consider invading Poland or something equally unthinkable. They are truly insane.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12592 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-04 20:16:58
January 04 2026 20:03 GMT
#18174
We're also talking about people who are only tangentially connected to reality and mainly behave in reaction to their current perceptions. Most of MAGA will continue to support Trump the neocon imperialist invader, even though five minutes ago they were non-interventionists who didn't want to engage in needless wars under Hillary Clinton the war hawk. You could easily get a fascist leader in France from an "inward focused" far right party and three days later they're at war with Belgium because some belgian politician was mean on Twitter.

In any case, if we read "fascist theory" for whatever it's worth, they typically see warfare as a good idea. It helps with the rejuvenation of the nation, forges identity, and so on. Political violence in general plays an important part in getting rid of the weak and weak-willed men that we have because of wokeness and liberalism.
No will to live, no wish to die
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17861 Posts
January 05 2026 18:49 GMT
#18175
It seems zeo moved on to the US politics thread. Maybe because despite all the Russian claims of Pokrovsk being under their complete control there were videos posted of Ukrainian soldiers launching fireworks in the northern parts of the city on new year's eve.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
January 05 2026 20:06 GMT
#18176
On January 06 2026 03:49 Manit0u wrote:
It seems zeo moved on to the US politics thread. Maybe because despite all the Russian claims of Pokrovsk being under their complete control there were videos posted of Ukrainian soldiers launching fireworks in the northern parts of the city on new year's eve.

Don't let this distract you from the Russian Santa Clauses in Myrnograd.

P.S. How are you still coping over Pokrovsk? lol
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8281 Posts
January 05 2026 21:46 GMT
#18177
On January 06 2026 05:06 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2026 03:49 Manit0u wrote:
It seems zeo moved on to the US politics thread. Maybe because despite all the Russian claims of Pokrovsk being under their complete control there were videos posted of Ukrainian soldiers launching fireworks in the northern parts of the city on new year's eve.

Don't let this distract you from the Russian Santa Clauses in Myrnograd.

P.S. How are you still coping over Pokrovsk? lol


Zeo 2 years ago: "LOL POKROVSK!"
Zeo 1 year ago: "How about Pokrovsk eh?!"
Zeo 6 months ago: "No one's talking about Pokrovsk lolol"
Zeo today: "God you guys still on that? Get a life"
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5890 Posts
January 05 2026 22:05 GMT
#18178
Let's not forget that Kupiansk was also on his recent list. ;-)
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10978 Posts
January 06 2026 13:35 GMT
#18179
On January 06 2026 05:06 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2026 03:49 Manit0u wrote:
It seems zeo moved on to the US politics thread. Maybe because despite all the Russian claims of Pokrovsk being under their complete control there were videos posted of Ukrainian soldiers launching fireworks in the northern parts of the city on new year's eve.

Don't let this distract you from the Russian Santa Clauses in Myrnograd.

P.S. How are you still coping over Pokrovsk? lol



Thanks to you we had to talk so much about it, it kinda keeps being on our minds.


Is Myrnograd your new lover?
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17861 Posts
January 07 2026 22:12 GMT
#18180
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