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KwarK
United States44397 Posts
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Ardias
Russian Federation618 Posts
On December 25 2025 21:51 hexhaven wrote: I have so many questions, but let's start with these few. Are potatoes now more expensive or cheaper than they were before? What's the overall trend here? Do Russians really buy potatoes in USD? What are the regional variations? What's the normal monthly income looking like, and how has it changed with potato prices? 1. Depends on definition of "before". I remember that somewhere in 2016-2017 they costed around 22-25 rubles, since when I was working in agricultural bank, and one of our regular clients offered us potatoes at price of 600 rubles per 40-kg sack (15 rubles per 1 kg) I took it as a good deal. Now they are generally around 38-45 rub/kg mark. 2. Trend is kinda on par or even below regular inflation, probably due to constant demand and improving agriculture over the years. Some crises did happen in that market, but then it had always bounced back to normal. 3. Of course not, I just converted the price base on current exchange rate for easier understanding, as vast majority of people here operate in dollars or euros. In the link provided it's 199 rubles per 4,7 kg, so around 42 rubles per 1 kg. 4. You mean in potato prices, their variants or relativity between average/median salary and cost of potatoes? The answer to first is, of course, the more to the south-west of Russia, the cheaper (since this is main agricultural region). However potatoes are potatoes, and they grow in some capacity in most Russian regions, bar the most cold ones, so they are generally accessible to most population. To the second - I'm not a potato sommelier, so won't be able to tell the exact difference. One friend of mine feels that expensive kinds of potatoes are much more tasty than our regular ones, I don't feel that as much. Third one calls for serious market analysis, far beyond my capacity. 5. Again, question better suited for proper market analysis, I however will try to give the data I can. Here in the north salaries are generally higher than in most central/southern regions (20-70%, though it's very broad estimate, and heavily differs from region to region) however food prices, thanks to "logistics in crisis" are not so different from other regions in the European part of Russia. This year I've visited four other cities in Russia (namely Kazan, Yaroslavl, St Petersburg and Moscow) and prices in same retail stores were quite similar, with maybe 10-15% difference at most. The difference is noticeable in the housing prices and travel costs mostly. My own salary, as federal agency employee, is around 1000 USD a month after taxes on yearly average (here and after I'll be listing salaries /prices in USD, though they, of course, are in rubles). My wife, working as either cook, cashier or operator on food factory, gets around 600-700 (depending on place and workload). A lot of my friends are working in energy and production sectors, and their salary, depending on workplace and position, ranges from 800 to 1500 USD a month. Based on Rosstat numbers average salary growth in my region from 2017 to 2024 is on par, and even exceeding the potato cost. Also on subject of "empty shelves outside Moscow and St. Petersburg" this is how empty they are. | ||
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KwarK
United States44397 Posts
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Yurie
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Manit0u
Poland17858 Posts
On December 28 2025 23:07 Yurie wrote: Seems we get another Zelensky meeting with Trump. Wonder if this one is a normal one or it is another Russia favored one. It depends if he gets a call from the Russians beforehand or not. His mood is entirely dependent on who buttered him last. | ||
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2907 Posts
On December 29 2025 04:42 Manit0u wrote: It depends if he gets a call from the Russians beforehand or not. His mood is entirely dependent on who buttered him last. He did so I guess it's going to be bad.  | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17858 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/G75YnPz.jpeg)  Edit: Is it just me or are Zelenskyy's visits to the US just a pointless waste of everyone's time? Trump is living in some alternate reality. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States3401 Posts
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Billyboy
2601 Posts
Imagine thinking this guy is the right one to lead your country. Like politics aside, Trump is proving that the US needs to add some sort of basic competency test to the office of president because they can't trust the populace not to elect a dictionary definition of an idiot. | ||
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KwarK
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Manit0u
Poland17858 Posts
On December 29 2025 11:17 Billyboy wrote: To me him claiming multiple times and continuing to claim that he will reduce drugs prices by 600 or even 700% in spite of his opposition saying he can't, the top banana so far. Because it proves he either can't be corrected or the people around him are equally dumb or too scared to correct him. Which leads to him making these kind of statements. Imagine thinking this guy is the right one to lead your country. Like politics aside, Trump is proving that the US needs to add some sort of basic competency test to the office of president because they can't trust the populace not to elect a dictionary definition of an idiot. I think he just comes up with stuff on the fly or someone tells him something that he likes the sound of and he'll just keep repeating it over and over. Just like in this press conference, very little was actually said about Ukraine but "Russia, Russia, Russia hoax" was mentioned like 3 times, the fact that "If I were the president then the war wouldn't have happened in the first place but the election was stolen", how he "stopped 8 wars within days" (without mentioning 2 or 3 of those are back on again) how "Crooked Hillary and Sleepy Joe were terrible" etc. etc. He's just spewing the same shit over and over again, probably thinking that if you repeat the same thing enough times it'll suddenly become true. I'm not sure he's even capable of forming a coherent sentence that doesn't involve some of those slogans he's been throwing out or have a conversation that he doesn't derail into those. | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1842 Posts
They are now, after the usual slew of bullshit statements from Trump & his daddy (Russia wants Ukraine to succeed being the top billing one of this cycle) russians are now pretending like Ukraine attacked Putin's residence which will make them to go back to war that they were so clearly going to stop this time, for real, they promise. Never mind the fact that russians tried to kill Zelensky at least 10 times so far , Trump and Putin will absolutely use this to double down and fuck Ukraine further... | ||
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Copymizer
Denmark2108 Posts
Russians talk more about peace than victory. The war fatigue seems real. The lack of empathy is appalling to say the least | ||
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Simberto
Germany12058 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland5888 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8281 Posts
On January 02 2026 00:24 maybenexttime wrote: That's because what most of them actually mean is peace through winning the war. Meduza (a Russian opposition news outlet) had a survey among its nominally anti-war readers. Most of them figured losing the war would be worse and wanted Russia to win. Sunken cost is a very real thing. Even if I consider myself a reasonable man (I mean, most people do I suppose), if my country engaged in war, evidence shows I would likely both support it and want victory, even if we objectively are the bad guys. And even if I didn't support the continuation of it, I'd likely at least want something out of it, so it wouldn't feel like all those people died for nothing, even though that's exactly what they are. | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2844 Posts
On January 02 2026 01:31 Excludos wrote: Sunken cost is a very real thing. Even if I consider myself a reasonable man (I mean, most people do I suppose), if my country engaged in war, evidence shows I would likely both support it and want victory, even if we objectively are the bad guys. And even if I didn't support the continuation of it, I'd likely at least want something out of it, so it wouldn't feel like all those people died for nothing, even though that's exactly what they are. I think that holds if you're talking about Norway going to war with Sweden over border disputes or something, and less so if you're talking about Norway going to war with Canada because y'all decided you actually want Prince Edward Island. That said, I suppose the propaganda mills would start churning before either case and change the populace's opinion of its potential enemies. Norway's people would hear why controlling PEI is actually totally justified and actually good for the people that live there, who Canada is mistreating anyhow. Canada would hear about how Norway has always been imperialist nazis etc. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8281 Posts
On January 02 2026 02:58 Fleetfeet wrote: I think that holds if you're talking about Norway going to war with Sweden over border disputes or something, and less so if you're talking about Norway going to war with Canada because y'all decided you actually want Prince Edward Island. That said, I suppose the propaganda mills would start churning before either case and change the populace's opinion of its potential enemies. Norway's people would hear why controlling PEI is actually totally justified and actually good for the people that live there, who Canada is mistreating anyhow. Canada would hear about how Norway has always been imperialist nazis etc. I mean, invading Sweden just sounds like a bonus. In fact I'm advocating for that right now. No propaganda needed. It's our turn to run Scandinavia for once, it's only fair | ||
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Yurie
12175 Posts
On January 02 2026 05:34 Excludos wrote: I mean, invading Sweden just sounds like a bonus. In fact I'm advocating for that right now. No propaganda needed. It's our turn to run Scandinavia for once, it's only fair I think you could perhaps run a PR campaign to get Sweden to join Norway without a war. Standard of living, wealth fund etc. That is the problem for Russia, it isn't even feasible for run that campaign with any chance of success. | ||
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KwarK
United States44397 Posts
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