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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-01-08 01:49:41
January 08 2026 01:15 GMT
#18181
On January 05 2026 05:03 Nebuchad wrote:
We're also talking about people who are only tangentially connected to reality and mainly behave in reaction to their current perceptions. Most of MAGA will continue to support Trump the neocon imperialist invader, even though five minutes ago they were non-interventionists who didn't want to engage in needless wars under Hillary Clinton the war hawk. You could easily get a fascist leader in France from an "inward focused" far right party and three days later they're at war with Belgium because some belgian politician was mean on Twitter.

In any case, if we read "fascist theory" for whatever it's worth, they typically see warfare as a good idea. It helps with the rejuvenation of the nation, forges identity, and so on. Political violence in general plays an important part in getting rid of the weak and weak-willed men that we have because of wokeness and liberalism.


The most important part of Fascism is how much they love to talk about being a peacemaker while planning for war.

Mussolini loved to talk about how Fascism was all about peace, in 1937 while speaking in Berlin he said "To the anxious people all over the world, who are wondering what our meeting in Berlin represents, war or peace, the Fuhrer and I can answer with one firm voice: peace!"

I bet FIFA thought about giving him a Peace Prize too.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43405 Posts
January 08 2026 01:29 GMT
#18182
To add onto what Nebuchad said about fascist theory, they don’t understand or recognize peace as an idea. Peace is weakness, it is death, it’s antithetical, it’s incompatible. Society must always be involved in a struggle against an enemy because the struggle is central to existence. To cease to fight the enemy is to cease to fight for the existence of the fascist state, it is through fighting that it self actualizes.

The fight doesn’t have to be external, the war on Christmas is every bit as valid as the war on terror, but it does have to be ongoing. The enemy is strong enough to present an existential threat, weak enough to have no moral or intellectual value, and durable enough to persist indefinitely.
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Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1362 Posts
January 08 2026 02:43 GMT
#18183
On January 08 2026 07:12 Manit0u wrote:
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Aged like milk

Was this before or after Iran? It is crazy that there are people that trust what Russia has to say.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17575 Posts
19 hours ago
#18184
On January 08 2026 11:43 Billyboy wrote:
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On January 08 2026 07:12 Manit0u wrote:
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Aged like milk

Was this before or after Iran? It is crazy that there are people that trust what Russia has to say.


I think this was quite recent, from when US blockaded Venezuelan coast.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7719 Posts
17 hours ago
#18185
Serbians shooting down exactly one F-117 (which is an early 1980s design) due to a stroke of luck and some good ol' complacency of the US forces and making it the core of their national identity will be forever hilarious to me. Literally nobody else in the world remembers or cares about it.
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Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1022 Posts
9 hours ago
#18186
The Serbian shot down of the F-117 was clever on their part, they had spies at the Italian base where the bombers were taking off, they had spotters along the flight paths that were re-used and the commander was a very smart guy who studied the craft and deployed a bunch of smart techniques to beat the stealth and HARM missiles.

I honestly don't buy the "Venezuelans were surprised and systems weren't online angle", US has been massing ships including a carrier all around Venezuela, seizing ships and sending clear messages to Maduro that he's about to go down.

Venezuela had Pantsir systems flown in specifically because they knew something like this was coming.

The S-300 systems were supposed to be protecting the exact targets that the USA took out, Caracas, military bases etc.

They also had about 5000 Russian Igla portable AA systems.

The US was confident enough that they did the bulk of the attack using low flying helis, this indicates that they gave 0 fucks about whatever AA Venezuela had.

Unless the whole military of Venezuela in charge of AA betrayed their country and decided to not do anything, it's safe to assume that all of these systems were located and neutralized by 5th gen fighters, anti radiation long distance missiles and other assets.

This is consistent with US and Israel losing exactly 0 air-frames when bombing Iran.

The myth of Russian anti air defense is over, if you have the latest technology, F-35 along with the jammers and stand of munitions, there is nothing Russia can do for you to protect you.

Venezuela and Iran are definitive proofs of this.

Anyone buying any of Russian systems is a fool, if I was a non-west aligned country I'd look at Chinese systems which have confirmed shoot downs of modern jets in the India-Pakistan skirmish from last year.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
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