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On June 09 2017 05:43 Mafe wrote:
Worth staying up? During the brexit referendum i stayed up until about 1am (aka about two hours from now) and was very surprised there were no reliable forecasts by then. Will it be different this time as the margins will most likely be larger?
If polling has been accurate or even still underrates conservative then this should be over with the exit polls.
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United Kingdom13775 Posts
On June 09 2017 05:43 Mafe wrote:
Worth staying up? During the brexit referendum i stayed up until about 1am (aka about two hours from now) and was very surprised there were no reliable forecasts by then. Will it be different this time as the margins will most likely be larger?
Moot for me since it will be done my early evening for me. But I doubt it will be as massively consequential as the Brexit referendum. This result is much more... proportional, rather than binary yes/no.
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Seriously? itv has a hung parliament......?
RIP sleep.
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The exit polls yes, gonna be interesting if they turn out to be right
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Wow.
Well I was hoping to get some sleep.
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
last year the exit poll didnt have a tory majority either
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Conservative/SNP coalition? 
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Hilarious. Good luck with the Brexit negotiations with a minority government. What a fucking mess.
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Does parliament have a final say now in regard to the brexit négociations ? Or rather their final form.
I briefly looked myself but am on my phone so apologies if it's a trivial question.
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United States42817 Posts
Minority government doesn't impact Brexit negotiations. Only the Lib Dems, SNP and the Northern Irish would vote down a Brexit leave plan. As much as I disagree with the concept that the Brexit referendum represents a clear and unified voice of the British people to leave the optics involved in either Labour or the Conservatives voting against are too poor. Rogue backbenchers in either party might vote against whatever bill the government pushes to leave but the guidance from both Labour and the Conservatives will be to vote for.
Labour can no longer afford to be a pro-EU party. They can have a pro-EU wing but they can't, as a party, oppose leaving the EU in my opinion.
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Canada13389 Posts
What is a hung parliament in UK terms. In Canada it means the parliament is non-viable.
But weve run minorities for whole election cycles and they regularly last 2.5 to 3 years before another election is called.
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United States42817 Posts
On June 09 2017 06:11 Artisreal wrote:
Does parliament have a final say now in regard to the brexit négociations ? Or rather their final form.
I briefly looked myself but am on my phone so apologies if it's a trivial question.
Yes. This was a big constitutional question last year because traditionally foreign policy is a power of the monarch and therefore falls to the Prime Minister through royal prerogative and the Prime Minister refers it to the Foreign Secretary. Treaties can be made and unmade at the will of the cabinet without involving Parliament as a whole. However the British Supreme Court ruled that in this instance it will require a majority vote in the Commons to leave.
We make shit up as we go along mostly.
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United States42817 Posts
On June 09 2017 06:13 ZeromuS wrote:
What is a hung parliament in UK terms. In Canada it means the parliament is non-viable.
But weve run minorities for whole election cycles and they regularly last 2.5 to 3 years before another election is called.
Anything but a winner.
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
u can rule northern ireland out, assuming alliance dont somehow sweep the unionists out of their seats. unless, shock horror, sinn fein actually take their seats
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Wouldn't a minority government carry a risk of a new election before the negotiations concluded?
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Boris Johnson is the new prime minister :D :D
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United States42817 Posts
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Canada13389 Posts
On June 09 2017 06:14 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2017 06:13 ZeromuS wrote:
What is a hung parliament in UK terms. In Canada it means the parliament is non-viable.
But weve run minorities for whole election cycles and they regularly last 2.5 to 3 years before another election is called. Anything but a winner.
Ok well why are people freaking out over this then. Are majorities that common in the UK? Theyre not super common here in Canada.
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United States42817 Posts
Current exit poll suggests
Tory - 314
Labour - 266
SNP - 34
Lib Dem - 14
Problem is SNP won't play with anyone without getting an offer of a second referendum.
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EPT
but im glad someone else understands this. 
