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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9950 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-08 21:59:14
June 08 2017 21:58 GMT
#6921
Hopefully this (whatever it turns out to be) signals the end of Lynton Crosby and his vicious, race-to-the-bottom campaigns. The tories don't have to be negative about everything and people are obviously getting sick of it. I'd love it if the next election had some serious debate. You get better debate on TL than the major political TV debates.
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 08 2017 22:01 GMT
#6922


Conservatives can still have their majority... or fall even lower.
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
June 08 2017 22:07 GMT
#6923
The postal vote thing is a pretty big deal. Significantly Tory, significantly pro-Brexit.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 08 2017 22:23 GMT
#6924
This exit poll is definitely wrong, I think there must be a huge amount of seats that are close and the exit poll has gone the wrong way on most of them
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-08 22:25:59
June 08 2017 22:25 GMT
#6925


I was just starting to get excited about the prospect of a new Tory leader, too. Exit poll off by 9 points so far.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
June 08 2017 22:26 GMT
#6926
On June 09 2017 07:07 bardtown wrote:
The postal vote thing is a pretty big deal. Significantly Tory, significantly pro-Brexit.

I'm slightly suprised. I though that here in germany, the postal vote was more left-leaning than the non-postal vote. But I might be wrong.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 08 2017 22:26 GMT
#6927
On June 09 2017 07:25 bardtown wrote:
https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/872940150078287873

I was just starting to get excited about the prospect of a new Tory leader, too.


There will be a new Tory leader soon don't worry the knives are already out and may has had a shocking campaign
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
June 08 2017 22:28 GMT
#6928
Time to stay awake for a good while yet.
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
June 08 2017 22:30 GMT
#6929
On June 09 2017 07:26 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 07:25 bardtown wrote:
https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/872940150078287873

I was just starting to get excited about the prospect of a new Tory leader, too.


There will be a new Tory leader soon don't worry the knives are already out and may has had a shocking campaign

The campaign was terrible, but if the exit poll is actually 9 points out then she's going to return a reasonable majority anyway. Of course it might not be 9 points out for the rest of the results, but it looks more likely that she will be able to form a government. Can't see them kicking her out mid-Brexit in that case.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-08 22:33:34
June 08 2017 22:32 GMT
#6930
On June 09 2017 07:30 bardtown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 07:26 Zaros wrote:
On June 09 2017 07:25 bardtown wrote:
https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/872940150078287873

I was just starting to get excited about the prospect of a new Tory leader, too.


There will be a new Tory leader soon don't worry the knives are already out and may has had a shocking campaign

The campaign was terrible, but if the exit poll is actually 9 points out then she's going to return a reasonable majority anyway. Of course it might not be 9 points out for the rest of the results, but it looks more likely that she will be able to form a government. Can't see them kicking her out mid-Brexit in that case.


If she gets a majority of roughly the same she will definitely be gone by next week if it's more she will survive until after brexit ithen she will go
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5001 Posts
June 08 2017 22:34 GMT
#6931
If memory serves, British polling is considered pretty bad, right? What about British exist polling? At least over here it's kind of become a meme in certain circles that you shouldn't take them seriously at all.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 08 2017 22:35 GMT
#6932
Looks like the SNP Is going to lose some big names which is good apparently Angus Robertson is 99% to lose according to John Curtis
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 08 2017 22:36 GMT
#6933
On June 09 2017 07:34 Introvert wrote:
If memory serves, British polling is considered pretty bad, right? What about British exist polling? At least over here it's kind of become a meme in certain circles that you shouldn't take them seriously at all.


Last few exit polls have been pretty accurate the normal polls useless though
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5001 Posts
June 08 2017 22:37 GMT
#6934
On June 09 2017 07:36 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 07:34 Introvert wrote:
If memory serves, British polling is considered pretty bad, right? What about British exist polling? At least over here it's kind of become a meme in certain circles that you shouldn't take them seriously at all.


Last few exit polls have been pretty accurate the normal polls useless though


Well that's interesting. thanks
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
June 08 2017 22:37 GMT
#6935
On June 09 2017 07:30 bardtown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2017 07:26 Zaros wrote:
On June 09 2017 07:25 bardtown wrote:
https://twitter.com/maitlis/status/872940150078287873

I was just starting to get excited about the prospect of a new Tory leader, too.


There will be a new Tory leader soon don't worry the knives are already out and may has had a shocking campaign

The campaign was terrible, but if the exit poll is actually 9 points out then she's going to return a reasonable majority anyway. Of course it might not be 9 points out for the rest of the results, but it looks more likely that she will be able to form a government. Can't see them kicking her out mid-Brexit in that case.

Hopefully a humbler May, same Brexit negotiations, and a return to costings and better Tory policies. Corbyn should've been an easy mark, but they've done it to themselves.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
June 08 2017 22:42 GMT
#6936
That this is even as close as this is ridiculous. If these Tory's were in any other job they would be homeless. Can't say it's not interesting though!
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
June 08 2017 22:51 GMT
#6937
Colour me intrigued. Does anyone know what the turn-out has been like? Danish media reports that slightly more have registered than usual (speculating that it is the young), but that is all.
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
June 08 2017 22:53 GMT
#6938
From what I gather so far the turnout has been up ~5%, mostly young voters.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
June 08 2017 23:04 GMT
#6939
Thanks Time to start brewing coffee I guess
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
June 08 2017 23:16 GMT
#6940
This is way too exciting.

Labour statement on the guardian newsstream

If this poll turns out to be anywhere near accurate, it would be an extraordinary result. Labour would have come from a long way back to dash the hopes of a Tory landslide.

There’s never been such a turnaround in a course of a campaign. It looks like the Tories have been punished for taking the British people for granted.

Labour has run a positive and honest campaign – we haven’t engaged in smears or personal attacks.

Labour’s poll standing and Jeremy Corbyn’s standing surged as people were able to hear our message, policies and Jeremy directly.

Labour poured energy and resources into voter registration – and an extra 3 million people registered in the five weeks between the election being called and the deadline.

It looks like their voice has been heard.


Getting more confident about the exit poll results?
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