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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 07 2017 18:31 GMT
#6841
So, British friends, how are people reacting to May's quote about human rights and terrorism ? I mean, medias are all over it, but do the people care ?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
June 07 2017 18:36 GMT
#6842
She has been saying the same thing for years.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44291 Posts
June 07 2017 18:43 GMT
#6843
We all knew this about May, it's one of the reasons she's so disliked.
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Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
June 07 2017 19:04 GMT
#6844
People don't care. People don't care about freedom of speech, don't understand encryption, are fine with torture.

And these are university educated professionals working for a consultancy firm which does lots of NHS work. They still don't see how much of a crazy person May is.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44291 Posts
June 07 2017 19:05 GMT
#6845
Enough to make you miss Cameron.
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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-07 19:15:09
June 07 2017 19:05 GMT
#6846
I couldn't bring myself to vote for the likes of May, even if my interests were more aligned with the interests of her party. And I hate voting on personality ...
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-07 21:11:33
June 07 2017 20:56 GMT
#6847
On June 08 2017 03:31 OtherWorld wrote:
So, British friends, how are people reacting to May's quote about human rights and terrorism ? I mean, medias are all over it, but do the people care ?


Apart from the people who are hyped up about Corbyn (who are going to be massively disappointed on Friday) I think most people are just fed up and frustrated with May but are going to vote for her anyway because she isn't Corbyn.

Also this is the Suns election day front page sitting on the fence as usual



bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
June 07 2017 21:34 GMT
#6848
Why would it make you miss Cameron? He was the PM behind the snooper's charter and random arbitrary pornography bans. It should make you miss Labour leaders that weren't so terrible that economically literate people felt like they had only one option. Corbyn/Abbott/McDonnell have left me with no choice. Farron also to blame for his idiotic stance on Brexit which has absolutely nothing to do with liberal or democratic values.

Have to place my hope in Tory backbenchers who actually care about liberal values.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 07 2017 21:39 GMT
#6849
On June 08 2017 06:34 bardtown wrote:
Why would it make you miss Cameron? He was the PM behind the snooper's charter and random arbitrary pornography bans. It should make you miss Labour leaders that weren't so terrible that economically literate people felt like they had only one option. Corbyn/Abbott/McDonnell have left me with no choice. Farron also to blame for his idiotic stance on Brexit which has absolutely nothing to do with liberal or democratic values.

Have to place my hope in Tory backbenchers who actually care about liberal values.


Not many of them left either, Cameron was a much safer bet he didnt tinker too much and had liberal people in his Cabinet. I think there is some hope that this election has shown May to not be as great as MPs first thought and they might get rid of her some time in this parliament maybe after Brexit, then perhaps the conservatives can do a proper leadership contest not a reenactment of Macbeth.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44291 Posts
June 07 2017 21:43 GMT
#6850
Traditionally Europe has been the issue that the Tories use to betray their leaders and May's position there is unassailable. The Conservative party line won't waver from Brexit.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44291 Posts
June 07 2017 21:44 GMT
#6851
On June 08 2017 06:34 bardtown wrote:
Labour leaders that weren't so terrible that economically literate people felt like they had only one option

Does not compute.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
June 07 2017 21:54 GMT
#6852
There are Tory backbenchers who are very passionate about 'ancient civil liberties'. A lot of overlap with the Brexit group.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-07 21:59:56
June 07 2017 21:55 GMT
#6853
On June 08 2017 06:43 KwarK wrote:
Traditionally Europe has been the issue that the Tories use to betray their leaders and May's position there is unassailable. The Conservative party line won't waver from Brexit.


Thats why I said after Brexit, once its sorted get rid of her shes proved the last few months she can't even run a good campaign compared to Jeremy fucking Corbyn. The Conservative party will never end its regicide because it exists purely to win elections and govern.

May has shown what she has and I don't think it will be enough for her to survive until 2022 or whenever the next election will be, who could succeed her though I don't really rate anyone in the conservative cabinet other than Boris, maybe Amber Rudd she is May 2.0 i guess. Bring back David Cameron?


On June 08 2017 06:54 bardtown wrote:
There are Tory backbenchers who are very passionate about 'ancient civil liberties'. A lot of overlap with the Brexit group.


Unfortunately any newer members with these views are being blocked by CCHQ, for any constituency without a candidate already chosen before the election was announced May's team gives a shortlist to each one and blocking any choices they don't like e.g. Dan Hannan (key member of the leave campaign.) Even where I live one of May's ex special advisers has been parachuted in. So all the new seats May gains are going to be her type of conservatives.
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
June 07 2017 22:18 GMT
#6854
On June 08 2017 06:55 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 06:43 KwarK wrote:
Traditionally Europe has been the issue that the Tories use to betray their leaders and May's position there is unassailable. The Conservative party line won't waver from Brexit.


Thats why I said after Brexit, once its sorted get rid of her shes proved the last few months she can't even run a good campaign compared to Jeremy fucking Corbyn. The Conservative party will never end its regicide because it exists purely to win elections and govern.

May has shown what she has and I don't think it will be enough for her to survive until 2022 or whenever the next election will be, who could succeed her though I don't really rate anyone in the conservative cabinet other than Boris, maybe Amber Rudd she is May 2.0 i guess. Bring back David Cameron?


Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 06:54 bardtown wrote:
There are Tory backbenchers who are very passionate about 'ancient civil liberties'. A lot of overlap with the Brexit group.


Unfortunately any newer members with these views are being blocked by CCHQ, for any constituency without a candidate already chosen before the election was announced May's team gives a shortlist to each one and blocking any choices they don't like e.g. Dan Hannan (key member of the leave campaign.) Even where I live one of May's ex special advisers has been parachuted in. So all the new seats May gains are going to be her type of conservatives.

That's grim. She is quite Machiavellian, really.
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-07 23:06:20
June 07 2017 23:02 GMT
#6855
Think I'll vote Labour because I think May's puppeteers will oppress any backbenchers that may (ahaha get it?) temper her shitness. Tory win with not a huge majority might be best of many bad outcomes.

Waiting for people to be disappointed when the NHS gets sold (and worse), the common person is poorer, the UK becomes the 51st of the Ununited States of Trump and there are no extra police to shoot the next nutter that drives a van into a crowd though.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 08 2017 07:27 GMT
#6856
On June 08 2017 05:56 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 03:31 OtherWorld wrote:
So, British friends, how are people reacting to May's quote about human rights and terrorism ? I mean, medias are all over it, but do the people care ?


Apart from the people who are hyped up about Corbyn (who are going to be massively disappointed on Friday) I think most people are just fed up and frustrated with May but are going to vote for her anyway because she isn't Corbyn.

Also this is the Suns election day front page sitting on the fence as usual

https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/872555324624052226

I still don't understand why 'newspapers' like that can exist. Who looks at that and thinks, yeah this is what I want to read and pay for to get informed?

Anyway good luck with the election today, hope you don't end up in a Maytopia
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
June 08 2017 07:57 GMT
#6857
On June 08 2017 16:27 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 05:56 Zaros wrote:
On June 08 2017 03:31 OtherWorld wrote:
So, British friends, how are people reacting to May's quote about human rights and terrorism ? I mean, medias are all over it, but do the people care ?


Apart from the people who are hyped up about Corbyn (who are going to be massively disappointed on Friday) I think most people are just fed up and frustrated with May but are going to vote for her anyway because she isn't Corbyn.

Also this is the Suns election day front page sitting on the fence as usual

https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/872555324624052226

I still don't understand why 'newspapers' like that can exist. Who looks at that and thinks, yeah this is what I want to read and pay for to get informed?

Anyway good luck with the election today, hope you don't end up in a Maytopia


Just put a naked girl on page 3 for years, you'll quickly have a following.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
June 08 2017 08:44 GMT
#6858
On June 08 2017 16:57 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 16:27 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On June 08 2017 05:56 Zaros wrote:
On June 08 2017 03:31 OtherWorld wrote:
So, British friends, how are people reacting to May's quote about human rights and terrorism ? I mean, medias are all over it, but do the people care ?


Apart from the people who are hyped up about Corbyn (who are going to be massively disappointed on Friday) I think most people are just fed up and frustrated with May but are going to vote for her anyway because she isn't Corbyn.

Also this is the Suns election day front page sitting on the fence as usual

https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/872555324624052226

I still don't understand why 'newspapers' like that can exist. Who looks at that and thinks, yeah this is what I want to read and pay for to get informed?

Anyway good luck with the election today, hope you don't end up in a Maytopia


Just put a naked girl on page 3 for years, you'll quickly have a following.

Amateurs, our local version, Bild, ran tits on the front page for years.
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 08 2017 10:26 GMT
#6859
Any update on participation rate?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 08 2017 10:35 GMT
#6860
It will be the usual voting rate of 60something% turn out xD
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