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Wikileaks reveals global Surveillance system

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sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 01:37:43
August 10 2012 23:58 GMT
#1
Holy shit big news.Assange really fucked up the USA this time if reports are true, this is no Iraq video or some afghanistan video, its serious business especially for people living in the USA. To give it a bit of background because its connected with Anonymous' hacking one of the most famous intelligence forecasting firms, Stratfor. This is a quote from Wikileaks:

From Wikileaks:
On Monday February 27th, 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing The Global Intelligence Files, over five million e-mails from the Texas headquartered "global intelligence" company Stratfor. The e-mails date between July 2004 and late December 2011. They reveal the inner workings of a company that fronts as an intelligence publisher, but provides confidential intelligence services to large corporations, such as Bhopal's Dow Chemical Co., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defence Intelligence Agency. The emails show Stratfor's web of informers, pay-off structure, payment laundering techniques and psychological methods.



So whats so big about these e-mails?

Trapwire:

Quote from Businessinsider.com


Every few seconds, data picked up at surveillance points in major cities and landmarks across the United States are recorded digitally on the spot, then encrypted and instantaneously delivered to a fortified central database center at an undisclosed location to be aggregated with other intelligence. It’s part of a program called TrapWire and it's the brainchild of the Abraxas, a Northern Virginia company staffed with elite from America’s intelligence community.

The employee roster at Arbaxas reads like a who’s who of agents once with the Pentagon, CIA and other government entities according to their public LinkedIn profiles, and the corporation's ties are assumed to go deeper than even documented. The details on Abraxas and, to an even greater extent TrapWire, are scarce, however, and not without reason. For a program touted as a tool to thwart terrorism and monitor activity meant to be under wraps, its understandable that Abraxas would want the program’s public presence to be relatively limited. But thanks to last year’s hack of the Strategic Forecasting intelligence agency, or Stratfor, all of that is quickly changing."

So: those spooky new "circular" dark globe cameras installed in your neighborhood park, town, or city—they aren't just passively monitoring. They're plugged into Trapwire and they are potentially monitoring every single person via facial recognition.



There isn't too much information right now because it just got leaked and how hard it is to access it however..... these are a few sites reporting about it despite them not being too reliable.

Wikileaks Mirror site, much more accesible with full access to leaked e-mails http://mirror2.wikileaks-press.org/gifiles/releasedate/2012-08-09.html

http://rt.com/usa/news/stratfor-trapwire-abraxas-wikileaks-313/
http://www.businessinsider.com/trapwire-everything-you-need-to-know-2012-8


I'll update as more information comes in.


For people asking about how they will analyze all the data:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1

This is a quote from the article by a whistleblower who used to work for the NSA. The Utah Data center is basically made to store/analyze data from all intelligence agencies.

Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.


Poll:

On August 11 2012 09:29 TotalNightmare wrote:
Well I think there is something missing in the OP and for now I will just put the poll here:
Poll: Are you surprised by this?

No, I always suspected it. (448)
 
70%

No and yes - I am not surprised but I never thought of it. (103)
 
16%

No, but I thought it wouldn't be that big. (52)
 
8%

Yes, and I am questioning how something like this could have been unobserved. (16)
 
3%

Yes and I still dont believe that this is actually true and not just hoax. (14)
 
2%

Yes, but I wonder how this could happen. (4)
 
1%

637 total votes

Your vote: Are you surprised by this?

(Vote): No, I always suspected it.
(Vote): No, but I thought it wouldn't be that big.
(Vote): No and yes - I am not surprised but I never thought of it.
(Vote): Yes, but I wonder how this could happen.
(Vote): Yes, and I am questioning how something like this could have been unobserved.
(Vote): Yes and I still dont believe that this is actually true and not just hoax.




Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 01:11:03
August 11 2012 00:02 GMT
#2
well I cant say im suprised at all.. public surveillance is clearly an inevitable integration of technology in society. I might get a little worried when they start nuking people from orbit with laser satelites but untill then they can watch me all day i dont care.
icydergosu
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
528 Posts
August 11 2012 00:02 GMT
#3
I knew it, Person of Interest is for reals.
I am the Punishment of God. If you had not commited great sins, god would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
August 11 2012 00:03 GMT
#4
why dont we all just fuse our minds together and be done with it
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
August 11 2012 00:03 GMT
#5
I'd be flattered if
large corporations, such as Bhopal's Dow Chemical Co., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defence Intelligence Agency
gave a shit about what I do every day.
I looked in the mirror and saw biupilm69t
SergioCQH
Profile Joined October 2010
United States143 Posts
August 11 2012 00:03 GMT
#6
Uh, if true, so what? How is this big news?
Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
August 11 2012 00:03 GMT
#7
So what's the big deal here? Public surveillance?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16118 Posts
August 11 2012 00:04 GMT
#8
On August 11 2012 09:03 SergioCQH wrote:
Uh, if true, so what? How is this big news?


Never read 1984 I assume?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
August 11 2012 00:05 GMT
#9
wow I hope this is not real. It is scary to know the government is keeping an eye on everyone.
SergioCQH
Profile Joined October 2010
United States143 Posts
August 11 2012 00:05 GMT
#10
On August 11 2012 09:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 09:03 SergioCQH wrote:
Uh, if true, so what? How is this big news?


Never read 1984 I assume?


Does reading 1984 make one cool, or just paranoid?
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
August 11 2012 00:05 GMT
#11
Oh boy, here comes lots of 1984 references and Ben Franklin quotes.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 11 2012 00:06 GMT
#12
According to STRATFOR sources, preliminary, unconfirmed information
on an unfolding attack Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul indicates that
militans stormed in force out of a vehicle after one suicide bomber
detonated a vest at the gate. Meanwhile rumors on the unfolding even
indicate at least two VBIEDs may be circling compound waiting to get in

Yes, yes I'll definitely sleep worse at night knowing the government has access to insidious information like..
terrorists plans.
....
Bring on the massive conspiracy theory thread!
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 00:07:37
August 11 2012 00:06 GMT
#13
It's like that movie, "Enemy of the State"

People need to realize how dangerous it is for liberty, when your government has the information and power to single out and spy on anyone. This isn't about spying on terrorists, it's about spying on everyone all the time.
:)
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 11 2012 00:06 GMT
#14
On August 11 2012 09:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 09:03 SergioCQH wrote:
Uh, if true, so what? How is this big news?


Never read 1984 I assume?


1984 was a lot more than watching people.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28738 Posts
August 11 2012 00:06 GMT
#15
If true, how is this not big news? Global surveillance with facial recognition? You're fine with someone knowing where you are and what you're doing at every moment? There's absolutely no way any possible terrorist or other threat justifies this gross invasion of privacy, and that's that.

I don't have time to really investigate this now but based on OP, this is terrible, and the most important leak from wikileaks so far.
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CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
August 11 2012 00:07 GMT
#16
On August 11 2012 09:06 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
According to STRATFOR sources, preliminary, unconfirmed information
on an unfolding attack Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul indicates that
militans stormed in force out of a vehicle after one suicide bomber
detonated a vest at the gate. Meanwhile rumors on the unfolding even
indicate at least two VBIEDs may be circling compound waiting to get in

Yes, yes I'll definitely sleep worse at night knowing the government has access to insidious information like..
terrorists plans.
....
Bring on the massive conspiracy theory thread!

Yes, those dangerous "Terrorist plans". Sleep quite worse, yes, quite worse.
Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
August 11 2012 00:09 GMT
#17
Anything in the name of terrorism. God bless.
Living the liefe
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
August 11 2012 00:10 GMT
#18
I really dont see what the problem is with facial recognition.. Every human being walking the planet is equipped with it.

well I dont think revealing this trapwire organization is spying on us is as much the problem as...say.. the implications of where they could go next with this kind of "social monitoring"

ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 11 2012 00:11 GMT
#19
I like that we're using facial recognition to combat terrorism, which "doesn't have a face."
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
August 11 2012 00:12 GMT
#20
On August 11 2012 09:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 09:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 11 2012 09:03 SergioCQH wrote:
Uh, if true, so what? How is this big news?


Never read 1984 I assume?


1984 was a lot more than watching people.

Brick by brick, piece by piece. If we allow little by little of these things then we'll eventually end up somewhere bad. The horrible thing about this is that it is/was kept from the public and not your ordinary CCTV deal.
For now, let's just sit back and enjoy the next installment from Alex Jones...
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
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