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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
On April 23 2012 18:52 Zorgaz wrote: Tons of scientific research has proven that fish have great cognitive skills and are atleast as intelligent as cats/dogs. Nonsense ... | ||
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Cypher_Brood
United States19 Posts
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Cypher_Brood
United States19 Posts
On April 23 2012 18:52 Zorgaz wrote: Source? This is the kind of claim that needs to be backed up. And since you're the one presenting it, it's on you to provide some source material.Tons of scientific research has proven that fish have great cognitive skills and are atleast as intelligent as cats/dogs. And it is proven that fish can feel pain. | ||
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SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
On April 23 2012 18:52 whiterabbit wrote: So Bear Grylls eating live fish is okey because he is trying to "survive" even if he is doing that for amusement of show viewers and this guy can go to jail for eating Goldfish? I am disgusted by people who would send this man to jail for THIS. I, sometimes, really don't want to live on this planet anymore.  I would assure you that Bear Grylls would not consume a goldfish when it's alive. He would kill it first. And he's not doing it for his own amusement, he is making an educational documentary series on survival. He doesn't eat a goldfish alive and then put it on youtube for shits'n'giggles. Bear Grylls would never eat a goldfish anyway. | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
Haha you narrow-minded fool... Why don't you read about it ? Or study fish yourself? Saying nonsense without any reasons or research yourself is weak I just did a study recently where i tested the intelligence of goldfish so not only have i read countless of studies of the subject but i also have personal experience of this. On April 23 2012 18:54 Cypher_Brood wrote: Source? This is the kind of claim that needs to be backed up. And since you're the one presenting it, it's on you to provide some source material. Okay if you guys are to dumb to use google I'll guess I'll do it. -_-' http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/hidden-lives-of-fish.aspx http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2003/sep/04/thisweekssciencequestions http://finatics.hubpages.com/hub/fish-intelligence-the-mastermind-behind-your-aquarium-glass http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_intelligence news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_yorkshire/3189941.stm Try looking into it yourselfs.. | ||
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
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sulliwan
85 Posts
On April 23 2012 18:41 Rickson wrote: I fail to see how eating a goldfish the way he did is any different than eating any other raw fish. For fucks sake people, I really don't understand people who care about what other people eat. It's none of your fucking business at all. I get the activists who want the treatment of animals to be upgraded - some of the shit is repulsive - but what this man has done is absolutely fine. Does he have to kill the fish, gut it, and put it on a frying pan first before eating for it to be OK? You can't see how torture is different from killing? Are you for real? He is causing unnecessary suffering and pain for the goldfish. If he wanted to eat the goldfish there are ways of killing goldfish that are relatively painless for them. | ||
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Sapp
Poland173 Posts
On April 23 2012 18:35 SolHeiM wrote: You missed the fact that I stated that I find torture or animal cruelty for your own amusement disgusting. I have nothing against the consumption of meat products, and I eat meat every day. Whatever happens in the food industry happens, and if a person goes to work in the food industry (whatever that may be) and thinks his job is fucking amazing because he gets to kill animals for a living, then I find that individual disgusting, not the collective "food industry" possey. There is so much fail in this... HOW THEY DARE TO HOUNT FOR THEYR OWN AMUSMENT JAIL THEM!! really man. there was no tortureing on that video. He did nothing over every sunday huner or casual fisherman do in theyr free time. People shuld grow up. | ||
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Dralin
Germany22 Posts
On April 23 2012 19:00 sulliwan wrote: You can't see how torture is different from killing? Are you for real? He is causing unnecessary suffering and pain for the goldfish. If he wanted to eat the goldfish there are ways of killing goldfish that are relatively painless for them. so what about cooking a lobster? is it torture? (as they are thrown into boiling water while still alive) and is that ok because there is no way to get the same flavor ... | ||
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BearStorm
United States795 Posts
On April 23 2012 18:50 SolHeiM wrote: If you go and butcher an animal while it's still alive where your primary reason of butchering the animal is because you think that's a fun thing to do, and you don't give a shit about eating it because hunger is not the reason for killing it, that is what I mean. I mention the torture and cruelty of animals for your own amusement to be disgusting an inhumane. If you kill an animal quickly and do not let it suffer, then that's alright. But if you let an animal die an agonizing death because you think that's fun, then you're a disgusting person. I think you have a good heart and your intentions are good. But I think you missed my point. We as humans do not need to eat meat. In fact it is probably more affordable to practice healthy eating while avoiding meat. However we support industries where cattle are slaughtered so that we can eat meat which is more enjoyable. The life of cattle from living conditions to their inevitable slaughter is cruel. It is probably even more cruel than a goldfish being eaten alive. I have an issue seing how you find the breeding of animals in cruel conditions and eventually slaughtering them isn't killing them for our amusement. There are alternatives that are healthier, but we rather eat meat because it is more "amusing". | ||
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Animeghost
Canada2 Posts
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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
It's just a goldfish. You people act like he eat another human being. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On April 23 2012 19:08 Animeghost wrote: Eating live raw oysters is done all around the world and considered a delicacy. What's the difference. They don't squirm. It's pretty gross, not that he should be punished for it. | ||
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SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
On April 23 2012 19:05 BearStorm wrote: I think you have a good heart and your intentions are good. But I think you missed my point. We as humans do not need to eat meat. In fact it is probably more affordable to practice healthy eating while avoiding meat. However I support industries where cattle are slaughtered so that I can eat meat which is more enjoyable. The life of cattle from living conditions to their inevitable slaughter is cruel. It is probably even more cruel than a goldfish being eaten alive. I have an issue seing how you find breeding of animals in cruel conditions and eventually slaughtering them isn't killing them for our amusement. There are alternatives that are healthier, but we rather eat meat because it is more "amusing". I'm saying I find the torture of animals for your own amusement disgusting. People eat because we need nourishment in order to survive. Killing of animals for food as long as you do it humanely is fine. You're trying to put words in my mouth by trying to manipulate the word "amusement". I would be hard pressed to find anyone who would say that the cruel conditions in quite a few cattle farms, or whatever you call them, are for our amusement the same way a circus is for our amusement. I don't think anyone who went and watched what happened in those places would find that in any way amusing. If they do, then that's a shame. | ||
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Xayoz
Estonia373 Posts
Great. I feel like eating some lobster now. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On April 23 2012 19:10 Leporello wrote: They don't squirm. It's pretty gross, not that he should be punished for it. Live Octopus is a delicacy in Japan and Korea. And believe you me it squirms. | ||
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Uncreative_Troll
98 Posts
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SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
On April 23 2012 19:01 Sapp wrote: There is so much fail in this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qezyQf2ya6A HOW THEY DARE TO HOUNT FOR THEYR OWN AMUSMENT JAIL THEM!! really man. there was no tortureing on that video. He did nothing over every sunday huner or casual fisherman do in theyr free time. People shuld grow up. There was one of those ducks or geese who got shot, and they didn't kill it while it was in the air. That one suffered. And they went out killing those geese for their own amusement. They did if because they thought it was funny. One of those guys even says so in the video. If you go out and hunt or fish where the primary reason behind it is to eat, and you to the best of your ability prevent the animal from suffering while you kill it is a thousand times more commendable than what those people did in the duck/geese hunt video. Absolutely fucking disgusting behavior and is in no way comparable to what the majority of people who hunt and fish for food do. | ||
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nennx
United States310 Posts
if someone does something fucked up to their pets the law really shouldn't be involved in any major form (no jail time) | ||
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Mallidon
Scotland557 Posts
On April 23 2012 19:13 S_SienZ wrote: Live Octopus is a delicacy in Japan and Korea. And believe you me it squirms. Don't they usually cut the brain off or w/e before its served? Not sure if you could class that as 'live'. | ||
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