EPTThere are far worse instances of animal cruelty, and people eat live things all the time, this idiot just put it on youtube.
Jail for eating a live goldfish? - Page 36
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ScaryGhost
49 Posts
There are far worse instances of animal cruelty, and people eat live things all the time, this idiot just put it on youtube. | ||
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
On April 30 2012 05:04 CakeSauc3 wrote: lol, so you're telling me that it's less cruel to kill the goldfish BEFORE you eat it? That doesn't change anything. Whether you kill it first or don't, you still kill the animal. And wait, are you suggesting that the point here is that if you eat something for any reason than for getting nourishment, that's a crime? I eat all the time just because I like to eat. Should I go to jail for that? And yes, this DOES have to do with plants having rights - because suing someone over eating a goldfish should be a serious concern for where our society is headed, as it is just as silly of an idea. This is simply a case of someone trying to get money from someone else for doing something innocent. the manner of death has a huge impact on laws concerning animal rights. thats why when fishermen catch fish they tend to hit the fish in the head very hard which instantly kills it - they don't just open it up while its still alive because its just an asshole thing to do. | ||
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Pyrrhus
60 Posts
On April 30 2012 05:08 Silidons wrote: the manner of death has a huge impact on laws concerning animal rights. thats why when fishermen catch fish they tend to hit the fish in the head very hard which instantly kills it - they don't just open it up while its still alive because its just an asshole thing to do. should we send assholes to jail? seems a bit over the top. also biting the head of a fish is a quick death, as it immediately severs the spinal cord. like the guillotine. crushing the head with teeth is also very quick as it destroys the brain in a second. so he wasnt even being an asshole - just a guy eating a fish. | ||
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Arghmyliver
United States1081 Posts
Yes, nice guys sometimes eat meat. Sorry for evolution yo. | ||
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Detri
United Kingdom683 Posts
On April 30 2012 05:04 CakeSauc3 wrote: lol, so you're telling me that it's less cruel to kill the goldfish BEFORE you eat it? That doesn't change anything. Whether you kill it first or don't, you still kill the animal. And wait, are you suggesting that the point here is that if you eat something for any reason than for getting nourishment, that's a crime? I eat all the time just because I like to eat. Should I go to jail for that? And yes, this DOES have to do with plants having rights - because suing someone over eating a goldfish should be a serious concern for where our society is headed, as it is just as silly of an idea. This is simply a case of someone trying to get money from someone else for doing something innocent. You're clearly just not very intelligent, and I feel less so for having conversed with you. User was warned for this post | ||
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I_PROTOSSED_MY_HW
22 Posts
On April 30 2012 09:10 Detri wrote: You're clearly just not very intelligent, and I feel less so for having conversed with you. Ah, good old ad hominem, the perfect solution when lacking a proper argument. --- I think this entire ordeal is straight out retarded. 1. Fish caught in nets are squeezed together for hours before getting their arteries slit, resulting in exsanguination. This doesn't seem preferable to a quick death by decapitation and/or a bath in highly concentrated acid to me. 2. The 'pet' and 'brain size' arguments are worthless as they are completely arbitrary. People's objections seem to be originating from a notion that unnecessary infliction of physical and mental pain should be kept to a minimum. I therefore suggest that you stick to your own words and create two categories; one for organisms that perceive pain and one for organisms that don't. Arbitrarily putting the limit at cats/dogs/whatever is nonsensical. It would also be wise to assume that anything with a nervous system can perceive pain until proven otherwise, instead of the other way around. 3. A person risks legal repercussions for eating a goldfish. Fuck this gay earth. | ||
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
On April 30 2012 08:38 Arghmyliver wrote: So like - gutting a fish frequently consists of cutting off its head. The head of the fish actually contains the heart - (or as near as you can get while still cutting off the head) which as I recall from my dad teaching me how to gut fish when I was child (none of my family are hunters, they fish at the beach on vacation maybe once a year) still beats for like 5-10 mins at the very least. Basically my point is, there is no way you can kill a fish faster than how this guy did it. I watched his other videos, this is not a psychopath who is killing animals for fun, this is a guy who gets together with his friends and eats gross shit and then posts it on YouTube. You can see the evolution of his channel from just a nobody eating gross shit to a popular YouTube star (gets better camera work and an intro/jingle made by an audience member). This guy seems fairly normal otherwise, probably a really nice guy. Yes, nice guys sometimes eat meat. Sorry for evolution yo. So because he's a nice guy he should be immune towards animal cruelty charges? Ppl are stupid, sometimes they don't think about what they're doing. Don't kill a animal unless you have a purpose for doing it. Doing it for kicks and giggles doesn't count as a purpose. Also, do it in the most humane and respectful way possible. Killing something by chewing on it is not very humane, and it's definately not respectful. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On April 30 2012 05:07 ScaryGhost wrote: You have to remember that people are bored, and freak out over dumb shit. Didn't jackass do something similar? I also remember when PITA started flipping out because Obama killed a fly during an interview (in a most awesome fashion btw). There are far worse instances of animal cruelty, and people eat live things all the time, this idiot just put it on youtube. how did he kill it (obama that is) | ||
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funcmode
Australia720 Posts
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Union
43 Posts
On April 27 2012 09:30 r.Evo wrote: They didn't prove me wrong. Society at large IS in fact still failing when it comes to showing compassion and empathy for other human beings OR animals. The step from "I'm superior to this animal and that's why I can do with it whatever I want to" to "I'm superior to this person I can do with him whatever I want to" is incredibly small. If you are able to accuse hurting an animal with the argument that you're a superior being that argument isn't far from what caused most of the suffering and bloodshed in the history of mankind. The reason for this is because this type of argument exploits the same in both cases: Lack of empathy and lack of compassion. Ugh. Logically Fallacies - Here's the one for you and everyone else arguing that mistreating animals is somehow going to degrade civilization back to the stone-age (also the site that hosts these makes me laugh) Logical Fallacy | ||
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Full
United Kingdom253 Posts
i dont remember what its called, a couple of hundred of people might be subscribed. epicmealtime i think | ||
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Arghmyliver
United States1081 Posts
On April 30 2012 23:55 ninini wrote: So because he's a nice guy he should be immune towards animal cruelty charges? Ppl are stupid, sometimes they don't think about what they're doing. Don't kill a animal unless you have a purpose for doing it. Doing it for kicks and giggles doesn't count as a purpose. Also, do it in the most humane and respectful way possible. Killing something by chewing on it is not very humane, and it's definately not respectful. My points here are not that anyone should be immune to animal cruelty, but rather that in this case - there is little to justify an animal cruelty charge. I would say that mastication is at least as humane as decapitation (considering the size of the human jaw in relation to the goldfish's spine) - and probably more humane than the electric floors they use to kill pigs/sheep. Considering we treat most of the animals we eat for food with holocaust level conditions, somehow it seems to me that at least this fish's death had more purpose than - "Welp, you're fat now, time to be food - BRRRRZZZAP" | ||
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