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Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
April 23 2012 09:40 GMT
#41
Just a friendly reminder that humans didn't sit around and eat nothing to rise to the top of the food chain.
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
April 23 2012 09:41 GMT
#42
On April 23 2012 18:35 BearStorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 18:24 SolHeiM wrote:
I am completely behind this. I find eating any animal when it's still alive, or the torture of animals for your own amusement completely disgusting. I don't consider myself particularly oversensitive but I hope this guy gets his just deserts.

Where do you draw the line when it comes to eating things alive? You're allowed to eat a goldfish alive but not a cat or a dog? They are considered pets and you couldn't say "it's just a goldfish, after all" and then say it's not OK to consume a dog when it's alive, because then I say to you, it's just a dog, after all.

I think he should get jail time and get fined for animal cruelty.


Are you a vegetarian? If not you should become one so you can try to maintain the moral highground. By purchasing the common meat you find in the supermarket you are supporting the acts that are involved in making that meat availalbe to you. Just because you are not directly committing the cruel acts that happen in slaughterhouse does not make you any better if you have a healthier/affordable/obtainable alternative to the meat.


I regularly consume meat, and I said I found the torture of animals for your own amusement disgusting behavior. What happens in the food industry is something I can't do anything about, and I look down on the people who torture animals for their own amusement.
Rickson
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
49 Posts
April 23 2012 09:41 GMT
#43
I fail to see how eating a goldfish the way he did is any different than eating any other raw fish.

For fucks sake people, I really don't understand people who care about what other people eat. It's none of your fucking business at all.

I get the activists who want the treatment of animals to be upgraded - some of the shit is repulsive - but what this man has done is absolutely fine. Does he have to kill the fish, gut it, and put it on a frying pan first before eating for it to be OK?

sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
April 23 2012 09:41 GMT
#44
Another reason I love my country. Animal welfare Act 2006.
HotShizz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
France710 Posts
April 23 2012 09:42 GMT
#45
ok. I don't think it makes a big difference alive or dead. Eaten in the wild alive all the time right? Not the biggest deal, but holy crap is that gross. I am sorry he may think he's funny or maybe he makes a lot of money and thinks he's internet famous, but have some fucking dignity man. Other ways to make money than to become that kid in grade school that eats glue because he thinks it makes him popular, but all the other kids are laughing at him not with him. Eww. Just my personal opinion.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 09:43:15
April 23 2012 09:42 GMT
#46
On April 23 2012 18:36 Tanukki wrote:
I guess the problem is how he makes a spectacle out of eating strange animals. Not that I really care. Goldfish are pretty dumb anyways, they will even kill each other and eat their own babies if you once forget to feed them correctly. So I guess if you forget or are unable to feed your pets for some reason, you should go to jail too.


Well, they are still capable of feeling pain. Although I still feel like he's an idiot, the RSPCA is more so, for doing things like attempting to bring Mario to justice over the skinning of tanooki.

Edit: I wrote that entirely without realizing your username.
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hns
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany609 Posts
April 23 2012 09:44 GMT
#47
On April 23 2012 18:41 SolHeiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 18:35 BearStorm wrote:
On April 23 2012 18:24 SolHeiM wrote:
I am completely behind this. I find eating any animal when it's still alive, or the torture of animals for your own amusement completely disgusting. I don't consider myself particularly oversensitive but I hope this guy gets his just deserts.

Where do you draw the line when it comes to eating things alive? You're allowed to eat a goldfish alive but not a cat or a dog? They are considered pets and you couldn't say "it's just a goldfish, after all" and then say it's not OK to consume a dog when it's alive, because then I say to you, it's just a dog, after all.

I think he should get jail time and get fined for animal cruelty.


Are you a vegetarian? If not you should become one so you can try to maintain the moral highground. By purchasing the common meat you find in the supermarket you are supporting the acts that are involved in making that meat availalbe to you. Just because you are not directly committing the cruel acts that happen in slaughterhouse does not make you any better if you have a healthier/affordable/obtainable alternative to the meat.


I regularly consume meat, and I said I found the torture of animals for your own amusement disgusting behavior. What happens in the food industry is something I can't do anything about, and I look down on the people who torture animals for their own amusement.


Agree with you completely. Most people here are obviously not seeing that there is a difference between eating/killing animals because you're hungry and want/need to eat something and purposely doing harm to an animal for the pure "value" (which I personally do not see, but well) of entertainment. He could have eaten his goldfish if he needed to because he was hungry or whatever, there's no problem with that. The problem lies in eating the goldfish and filming it just for the fun of it.
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reDicE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1020 Posts
April 23 2012 09:44 GMT
#48
I don't think he should be punished at all. It was a very quick death, and a fish being caught "humanely" probably suffers more than that fish did.
BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 09:48:13
April 23 2012 09:45 GMT
#49
On April 23 2012 18:35 SolHeiM wrote:
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On April 23 2012 18:31 Sapp wrote:
No tortureing and no live eating so it's like salmon on christmas.

@SolHeiN ur a hypocrite.


You missed the fact that I stated that I find torture or animal cruelty for your own amusement disgusting. I have nothing against the consumption of meat products, and I eat meat every day.

Whatever happens in the food industry happens, and if a person goes to work in the food industry (whatever that may be) and thinks his job is fucking amazing because he gets to kill animals for a living, then I find that individual disgusting, not the collective "food industry" possey.


Define amusement. I am sure an acceptable definition would have to be derived from pleasure. I eat meat instead of healthier/cheaper alternatives because of the pleasure I get from the food. How is that different from eating a goldfish? If you think it's because I am eating it for reasons that are not primarily for nourishment, then should I go to jail if I am full and I eat a meaty snack for my amusement from an animal that suffered? Does the fact that the animal is dead but suffered in the past change things?
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SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
April 23 2012 09:45 GMT
#50
On April 23 2012 18:38 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 18:31 SolHeiM wrote:What is the difference between a goldfish and a dog or a cat? They are both animals people keep as pets.

Some people keep ants as pets, should I go to jail for stepping on one? The whole "pet" idea is just downright retarded, some animals aren't worth more than other animals just because people collectively decide they are fun to have in the house.


No, you think some animals are worth less than others. That doesn't make it a fact, only your opinion. If you keep anything as a pet and are intentionally cruel to it, then yes I put you in the same category as the guy who are the live goldfish.

Jailtime for killing insects, accidentally or not is not the same as torturing pets.
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
April 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#51
The thing is if you come to Thailand or go to Hong Kong or China, you will see a restaurant that serve some stuff that are still alive. For example, shrimp or fish. It is very normal here.
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
April 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#52
On April 23 2012 18:40 Pulselol wrote:
Just a friendly reminder that humans didn't sit around and eat nothing to rise to the top of the food chain.

Yeah because that's exactly what this guy is doing by making these videos, he's trying to survive. derp.
kianboon
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore6 Posts
April 23 2012 09:49 GMT
#53
Everything is possible because he decides to share his video on Youtube.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 23 2012 09:49 GMT
#54
On April 23 2012 18:35 SolHeiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 18:31 Sapp wrote:
No tortureing and no live eating so it's like salmon on christmas.

@SolHeiN ur a hypocrite.


You missed the fact that I stated that I find torture or animal cruelty for your own amusement disgusting. I have nothing against the consumption of meat products, and I eat meat every day.

Whatever happens in the food industry happens, and if a person goes to work in the food industry (whatever that may be) and thinks his job is fucking amazing because he gets to kill animals for a living, then I find that individual disgusting, not the collective "food industry" possey.


"I eat meat every day"

On April 23 2012 18:35 BearStorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 18:24 SolHeiM wrote:
I am completely behind this. I find eating any animal when it's still alive, or the torture of animals for your own amusement completely disgusting. I don't consider myself particularly oversensitive but I hope this guy gets his just deserts.

Where do you draw the line when it comes to eating things alive? You're allowed to eat a goldfish alive but not a cat or a dog? They are considered pets and you couldn't say "it's just a goldfish, after all" and then say it's not OK to consume a dog when it's alive, because then I say to you, it's just a dog, after all.

I think he should get jail time and get fined for animal cruelty.


Are you a vegetarian? If not you should become one so you can try to maintain the moral highground. By purchasing the common meat you find in the supermarket you are supporting the acts that are involved in making that meat availalbe to you. Just because you are not directly committing the cruel acts that happen in slaughterhouse does not make you any better if you have a healthier/affordable/obtainable alternative to the meat.


"U a vegetarian, bro?"

*facepalm*
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Talho
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium592 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 09:56:27
April 23 2012 09:50 GMT
#55
They can sue a whole city in Belgium then, some city in Belgium has this as a yearly tradition


edit : just found where it's done again, the city is called "Geraardsbergen". And it's even accepted by UNICEF as a world heritage, not the fish eating itself ofcourse, it's just a part of "krakelingen". A tradition that gets done every year
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
April 23 2012 09:50 GMT
#56
On April 23 2012 18:45 BearStorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 18:35 SolHeiM wrote:
On April 23 2012 18:31 Sapp wrote:
No tortureing and no live eating so it's like salmon on christmas.

@SolHeiN ur a hypocrite.


You missed the fact that I stated that I find torture or animal cruelty for your own amusement disgusting. I have nothing against the consumption of meat products, and I eat meat every day.

Whatever happens in the food industry happens, and if a person goes to work in the food industry (whatever that may be) and thinks his job is fucking amazing because he gets to kill animals for a living, then I find that individual disgusting, not the collective "food industry" possey.


Define amusement. I am sure an acceptable definition would have to be derived from pleasure. I eat meat instead of healthier/cheaper alternatives because of the pleasure I get from the food. How is that different from eating a goldfish? If you think it's because I am eating it for reasons that are not primarily for nourishment, then should I go to jail if I am full and I eat a meaty snack for my amusement from an animal that suffered.


If you go and butcher an animal while it's still alive where your primary reason of butchering the animal is because you think that's a fun thing to do, and you don't give a shit about eating it because hunger is not the reason for killing it, that is what I mean. I mention the torture and cruelty of animals for your own amusement to be disgusting an inhumane.

If you kill an animal quickly and do not let it suffer, then that's alright. But if you let an animal die an agonizing death because you think that's fun, then you're a disgusting person.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 09:51:51
April 23 2012 09:51 GMT
#57
What the hell. Why would you want to eat a goldfish anyway, a raw one as well thats so stupid. Why does he do what he does btw? Just for "entertainment values"? or is it because he is proving that there is good protein or something in these ceatures/animal bits? I have seen the likes of Bear Grylls eat disgusting things, but he has many a reason, normally he is starving and showing you how to survive in the wild and that "x" has high protein levels or "y" is great mineral source and should be consumed because of it. Not because its "funny".

Anyone clarify why he does this?
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Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 09:54:17
April 23 2012 09:52 GMT
#58
I think what this dude is doing is sick. And the argument, alot of other animals have it worse it stupid really. We humans really treat animals with too little respect.

Tons of scientific research has proven that fish have great cognitive skills and are atleast as intelligent as cats/dogs. And it is proven that fish can feel pain.

This is animal cruelty... I would like to live in a world where animal cruelty is punished.

So yeah, punish the bastard.
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whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
April 23 2012 09:52 GMT
#59
So Bear Grylls eating live fish is okey because he is trying to "survive" even if he is doing that for amusement of show viewers and this guy can go to jail for eating Goldfish? I am disgusted by people who would send this man to jail for THIS. I, sometimes, really don't want to live on this planet anymore.
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BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 09:53:16
April 23 2012 09:52 GMT
#60
On April 23 2012 18:49 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 18:35 BearStorm wrote:
On April 23 2012 18:24 SolHeiM wrote:
I am completely behind this. I find eating any animal when it's still alive, or the torture of animals for your own amusement completely disgusting. I don't consider myself particularly oversensitive but I hope this guy gets his just deserts.

Where do you draw the line when it comes to eating things alive? You're allowed to eat a goldfish alive but not a cat or a dog? They are considered pets and you couldn't say "it's just a goldfish, after all" and then say it's not OK to consume a dog when it's alive, because then I say to you, it's just a dog, after all.

I think he should get jail time and get fined for animal cruelty.


Are you a vegetarian? If not you should become one so you can try to maintain the moral highground. By purchasing the common meat you find in the supermarket you are supporting the acts that are involved in making that meat availalbe to you. Just because you are not directly committing the cruel acts that happen in slaughterhouse does not make you any better if you have a healthier/affordable/obtainable alternative to the meat.


"U a vegetarian, bro?"

*facepalm*


You obviously didn't get it. I am not a vegetarian.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
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