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Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
April 23 2012 10:33 GMT
#101
I'm no longer surprised at the ridiculous things people are thrown in jail for in EU countries.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
TaKaSkl
Profile Joined September 2011
United States30 Posts
April 23 2012 10:35 GMT
#102
Isn't this similar to eating sushi? xD
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
April 23 2012 10:36 GMT
#103
Maybe if he was eating some sort of endangered species, but sweet christ, it was a gold fish.

I'm willing to bet that whatever five year old it would have wound up with would have starved it to death anyways.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 23 2012 10:37 GMT
#104
seems a bit excessive
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
nennx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
April 23 2012 10:37 GMT
#105
Alright, so we don't need to punish murder either? Or rape? That's all fine, because most people won't do it, right? Seriously.


We shouldn't need to punish for "animal murder" or "animal rape" unless its towards an animal you don't own yourself. Lets not mix up humans and animals here.
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LilClinkin
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Australia667 Posts
April 23 2012 10:40 GMT
#106
Any one wanting to put this guy in jail is an idiot and a hypocrite.
Dali.
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand689 Posts
April 23 2012 10:40 GMT
#107
On April 23 2012 19:26 SolHeiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 19:21 Dali. wrote:
On April 23 2012 18:35 SolHeiM wrote:
On April 23 2012 18:31 Sapp wrote:
No tortureing and no live eating so it's like salmon on christmas.

@SolHeiN ur a hypocrite.


You missed the fact that I stated that I find torture or animal cruelty for your own amusement disgusting. I have nothing against the consumption of meat products, and I eat meat every day.
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That is absurdly hypocritical.

By eating the meat of non-human animals you presumably find it acceptable to have animals killed for the sole purpose that you can enjoy their meat. You are presumably not starving, nor malnourished and have the freedom to choose other 'non-suffering' forms of nutrition. Your decision to eat meat is a fulfillment of an arbitrary preference: some might say, for your 'amusement'.

Chomping up a fish is probably going to end all sense experience (due to utterly destroying its brain) within the first three bites (~1-2 seconds), yet putting the bolt through a cow's head is likely to do much less overall damage, thus potentially prolonging its conscious experience of suffering.

I see no difference to this and any other form of meat eating, aside from the fact that it presents a condensed and uncensored portrayal of the journey from living animal to dead food.


It's not hypocritical. Killing animals humanely is fine in my eyes. Torture is not. There is a big difference between killing an animal quickly, and running after an animal with a rusty pick-axe, stabbing it every now and then and having it die several hours later form blood loss and exhaustion, even if you ate it afterwards. One of those scenarios is acceptable, because one is not based on torture and cruelty to animals for ones own amusement.

Torture, or inhumane killings of any animals, like say dissolving a fish in acid for example, is disgusting.


If the meat industry qualifies as humane then the actions within this video are humane. A man put a fish in his mouth, chomped it a couple times, then swallowed it. The fish was alive and well, suffered a brief moment of pain, then died. Compare that scenario to the use of "factory farming" eggs by use of battery cages (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_cage) or broilers (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broilers).

I find the case in question to be of no significance when compared to the mentioned practices of large parts of the poultry/egg business. I thus adjust my 'outrage' accordingly.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
April 23 2012 10:41 GMT
#108
If you wanna be an idiot in public, better think about what you're doing.
If eating live things is forbidden, do it silently or don't do it at all.

And yes, i find it disgusting.It's a way of entertaining people which i don't find ethical.You also don't feed living animals to snakes and such.

To his defense however, he should pay a moderate fine. He won't do it again, so there's really no point of putting him into jail or something.Law is simply ridiculous at times, it should change behaviors, not just do something destructive with your life, lots of potential wasted.
Phustus
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada81 Posts
April 23 2012 10:42 GMT
#109
I've seen porn where they put about 300 goldfish into a blender, blended them, put them into stockings and had a girl wear them while being molested by a creepy asian guy. I don't know where I was going with that but the fact that the guy is getting jailed and fined is downright stupid. I guess we have to appease the sensationalists though.
Kamakiri
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden312 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-23 10:44:25
April 23 2012 10:42 GMT
#110
More horrible things should deserve more attention than this bullshit.

To waste time arguing about how you should eat a goldfish, when 1000000 times more horrible things in the world is going on. Why don't we debate however kids that tears the wings of flies should be punished too?

People should just get some perspective please.
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killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
April 23 2012 10:42 GMT
#111
On April 23 2012 18:29 EneMecH wrote:
Unnecessary gratiutious cruelty and violence towards animals is what this is.

@Above: are you really all missing the point that the goldfish drowns in acid while alive?


Have you seen half the way animals kill each other in the wild? Nature is fucken cruel and sick if you actually look at what other animals do to each other.

Why do you think the phrase "Damn nature, you scary", exists?
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
April 23 2012 10:46 GMT
#112
On April 23 2012 18:16 Thylacine wrote:
Louis has eaten alot of disgusting things, including raw pigs eyeballs, blended raw bulls testicle(and a solid one), blended mice and live tarantulas and put it on youtube, but none of those animals we're against the law to eat alive.


Did the guy blend mice alive ? o.o
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RandomPlayer
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation400 Posts
April 23 2012 10:47 GMT
#113
maybe he should be executed? or eaten by tiger the same way?.. sarcasm. sentencing for this is stupid
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
April 23 2012 10:49 GMT
#114
On April 23 2012 19:42 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 18:29 EneMecH wrote:
Unnecessary gratiutious cruelty and violence towards animals is what this is.

@Above: are you really all missing the point that the goldfish drowns in acid while alive?


Have you seen half the way animals kill each other in the wild? Nature is fucken cruel and sick if you actually look at what other animals do to each other.

Why do you think the phrase "Damn nature, you scary", exists?

so you are an animal but only when it suits your purpose. very nice logic there.

if animals do it, it's ok for humans to do it too.
if animals don't do it, well ... fuck them, we're humans. we can do what we want because we're the superior race.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
April 23 2012 10:50 GMT
#115
I have the feeling most animal right acitivists probably live somewhere in a big city and have no clue what nature is and how it works. They need to just look at my cat play guantanamo with some mouse for one hour before finishing her off to see that their ideas of nature are in fact unnatural.
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
April 23 2012 10:51 GMT
#116
On April 23 2012 19:46 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 18:16 Thylacine wrote:
Louis has eaten alot of disgusting things, including raw pigs eyeballs, blended raw bulls testicle(and a solid one), blended mice and live tarantulas and put it on youtube, but none of those animals we're against the law to eat alive.


Did the guy blend mice alive ? o.o


Hahahah, no ofcourse not. Now THAT would be sick. ^^
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
April 23 2012 10:52 GMT
#117
On April 23 2012 19:49 xM(Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 19:42 killa_robot wrote:
On April 23 2012 18:29 EneMecH wrote:
Unnecessary gratiutious cruelty and violence towards animals is what this is.

@Above: are you really all missing the point that the goldfish drowns in acid while alive?


Have you seen half the way animals kill each other in the wild? Nature is fucken cruel and sick if you actually look at what other animals do to each other.

Why do you think the phrase "Damn nature, you scary", exists?

so you are an animal but only when it suits your purpose. very nice logic there.

if animals do it, it's ok for humans to do it too.
if animals don't do it, well ... fuck them, we're humans. we can do what we want because we're the superior race.


.....What?

Explain your point because I have no idea what you're trying to say.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
April 23 2012 10:53 GMT
#118
On April 23 2012 18:45 SolHeiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 18:38 Tobberoth wrote:
On April 23 2012 18:31 SolHeiM wrote:What is the difference between a goldfish and a dog or a cat? They are both animals people keep as pets.

Some people keep ants as pets, should I go to jail for stepping on one? The whole "pet" idea is just downright retarded, some animals aren't worth more than other animals just because people collectively decide they are fun to have in the house.


No, you think some animals are worth less than others. That doesn't make it a fact, only your opinion. If you keep anything as a pet and are intentionally cruel to it, then yes I put you in the same category as the guy who are the live goldfish.

Jailtime for killing insects, accidentally or not is not the same as torturing pets.

Wrong, my very point is that some animals are not worth more than others. It's retarded people who say it's a huge difference between eating a pig and eating a dog, because dogs are pets... which is dumb, because pigs are pets as well, it's a difference idiots make up because they can't handle the fact that pigs are just as much alive as dogs are. Don't make a distinction based on animals being pets or not, they are just animals regardless.
Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
April 23 2012 10:53 GMT
#119
On April 23 2012 19:41 Cattivik wrote:
If you wanna be an idiot in public, better think about what you're doing.
If eating live things is forbidden, do it silently or don't do it at all.

And yes, i find it disgusting.It's a way of entertaining people which i don't find ethical.You also don't feed living animals to snakes and such.

To his defense however, he should pay a moderate fine. He won't do it again, so there's really no point of putting him into jail or something.Law is simply ridiculous at times, it should change behaviors, not just do something destructive with your life, lots of potential wasted.

Err you do feed live animals to snakes... its pretty common. Eating a live goldfish is unnecessary but it is no worse than how we kill fish to eat them. Some people let them suffocate, one quick chop seems more humane to me. Some bash them on the head, still about the same level of humaneness as just biting it. Some put them on ice which some consider the most humane method, death by hyperthermia. Its a pick of quite bad options. There is no nice way to kill something. I don't see why biting the brain and smashing it with a blunt object should be different. Both can be messed up and go wrong. Both willl kill it quick.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
April 23 2012 10:55 GMT
#120
On April 23 2012 19:41 Cattivik wrote:
You also don't feed living animals to snakes and such.

Uh, yes you do. Very much so.
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