EPTJail for eating a live goldfish? - Page 7
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Repomies
Finland73 Posts
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
This is in response to whoever said we don't feed live things to live predators. | ||
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Miyoshino
314 Posts
Can't wait for the video where he eats a life whale. That's gonna upset some more hypocrites. | ||
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Vivax
22343 Posts
On April 23 2012 19:53 Egyptian_Head wrote: Err you do feed live animals to snakes... its pretty common. Eating a live goldfish is unnecessary but it is no worse than how we kill fish to eat them. Some people let them suffocate, one quick chop seems more humane to me. Some bash them on the head, still about the same level of humaneness as just biting it. Some put them on ice which some consider the most humane method, death by hyperthermia. Its a pick of quite bad options. There is no nice way to kill something. I don't see why biting the brain and smashing it with a blunt object should be different. Both can be messed up and go wrong. Both willl kill it quick. You sure are right about the fact that the killing method is quick and painless, and that there is worse that that, but my points are that: - He wants to entertain people with it. - What you actually might find entertaining doesn't put you into the best light. Until here it's a matter of taste, now to a simple example of why he is an idiot. If you are a stoner in a country where weed is illegal, you are morally on the right side for the majority of people... As long as you don't get on anybodys nerves with it. So, smoke your joint at home and you're right and smart. Smoke your joint in front of some cops and you're an idiot going on their nerves.You made a choice.Now deal with it. If this guy wants to go public with something which is illegal where he's living, he now has to deal with it. | ||
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Dali.
New Zealand689 Posts
On April 23 2012 19:50 REDBLUEGREEN wrote: I have the feeling most animal right acitivists probably live somewhere in a big city and have no clue what nature is and how it works. They need to just look at my cat play guantanamo with some mouse for one hour before finishing her off to see that their ideas of nature are in fact unnatural. Let me paint you a picture: To you it is totally acceptable for me to "play Guantanamo" with your cat, clawing, biting and pummeling it until it finally dies, of bloodless or physical trauma because I am a part of nature, and that's what nature does. Have 2,500+ years of ethical thought achieved nothing? | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On April 23 2012 20:00 Cattivik wrote: You sure are right about the fact that the killing method is quick and painless, and that there is worse that that, but my points are that: - He wants to entertain people with it. - What you actually might find entertaining doesn't put you into the best light. Until here it's a matter of taste, now to a simple example of why he is an idiot. If you are a stoner in a country where weed is illegal, you are morally on the right side for the majority of people... As long as you don't get on anybodys nerves with it. So, smoke your joint at home and you're right and smart. Smoke your joint in front of some cops and you're an idiot going on their nerves.You made a choice.Now deal with it. If this guy wants to go public with something which is illegal where he's living, he now has to deal with it. Great analogy. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
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whiterabbit
2675 Posts
On April 23 2012 20:04 gruff wrote: I'm a bit surprised youtube haven't removed the video yet since they seem to have adopted the "we don't want any people to get offended" policy. "This video has been age-restricted based on our Community Guidelines" says Youtube, logging is required and at beginning of video you have big warnning. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
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Spitfire
South Africa442 Posts
2) If goldfish are considered worthy of being protected from cruelty, then all is lost. We should shut down the cruelty that occurs from our major poultry and red meat sources. Should we move along the animal hierarchy and say killing flies/ants is an arrestable offense? No we shouldn't, and if we want to protect goldfish then we should also protect cattle and chickens. sounds good to me. | ||
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On April 23 2012 20:06 whiterabbit wrote: "This video has been age-restricted based on our Community Guidelines" says Youtube, logging is required and at beginning of video you have big warnning. Yes I saw that, that wasn't my point. There's been videos removed by youtube for doing things way less offensive than this. I'm not saying I want it removed but with youtubes policy lately of removing anything that gets people riled up (especially the ones that get press time) I'm a bit surprised they let it stay. | ||
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Khrey
United States38 Posts
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
Also if you think this is wrong why should fishing be allowed? Letting fish suffocate of knock them on the head to kill them isn't exactly more humane. Is it just because it's a "pet" fish? | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
Right after we solve world hunger and wars... | ||
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
So he can't bite off it's head and kill it instantly like he did. But he can lay it down on a table and cut it's head off or let it suffocate to death, then eat it. I really dont see the difference, none of these options sound more humane than the other. I think most people are just offended that it was a goldfish and not a sirloin. | ||
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CluEleSs_UK
United Kingdom583 Posts
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CloudCat
Singapore160 Posts
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
Not really, he's missing the point. No one's saying that violating a law on Youtube is a bright idea. The point being made is that the law that he's breaking is completely stupid in the first place. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On April 23 2012 20:21 CluEleSs_UK wrote: Well, my opinion is probably nothing new to this thread. It's a bit disgusting, pretty stupid and very weird. Is it worth jailtime? no. Is it worth $20k? no. GUYS I don't think he has actually been fined 20k or threatened with jail? Has he been sentenced? I thought it just said the RSPCA was investigating him. So many times people complain about the maximum tariff without realising that it's very possible he won't be sentenced anything like as harshly. | ||
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