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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

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1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8764 Posts
July 17 2015 16:03 GMT
#13081
On July 17 2015 23:32 SixStrings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 20:38 Acrofales wrote:
On July 17 2015 19:11 Snotling wrote:
On July 17 2015 17:41 GreenHorizons wrote:
Is it paranoid that I never trusted women's condoms or is that a rational precaution? Women's condom meaning a male condom procured by a woman, not an actual female condom.



There is also the size thing. If condoms fail, in a lot of cases its the wrong size, both too big and too small are dangerous. There are also quite a few slightly different shapes.
A couple years back I got a mixed bag with like 40 different condoms from a onlineshop. After trying them all on I just ordered a bigger quantity of the one that fit the best.

You also safe money, because comdoms get very cheap if you buy a 100. And they last long enough that using them all up in time isnt a problem.

You forgot #CondomBrag at the end of that post...


Ever since I put a normal sized condom over my entire leg and reached up to my upper thigh, I refuse to believe that anyone is endowed enough to fill out a condom.

Maybe in anime or other fucked up fiction, or in the animal world, but certainly not even The Mountain has a 50 cm, 20 kg penis.

what?
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-17 17:28:16
July 17 2015 17:25 GMT
#13082
Condoms can stretch a lot.

exhibit a:
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18118 Posts
July 17 2015 17:41 GMT
#13083
On July 18 2015 02:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
Condoms can stretch a lot.

exhibit a:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERCpTrcmWrg

Did that douchebag really throw the wrapper out the window? What a dick.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
July 17 2015 18:58 GMT
#13084
On July 18 2015 02:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
Condoms can stretch a lot.

exhibit a:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERCpTrcmWrg


Jesus, his response is so disproportional, haha.
waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
July 17 2015 21:43 GMT
#13085
On July 17 2015 23:32 SixStrings wrote:
Ever since I put a normal sized condom over my entire leg and reached up to my upper thigh, I refuse to believe that anyone is endowed enough to fill out a condom.

Maybe in anime or other fucked up fiction, or in the animal world, but certainly not even The Mountain has a 50 cm, 20 kg penis.


I dont know what kind of condom you used, but you surely used a lot of force. I can guarantee you that you dont need a 20kg penis to have problems with standard condoms. In fact, a few extra cm diameter and boom, you wont be able to roll it over your penis. Unless you want use massive force, risk breaking your penis(yes, this is possible), risking breaking the rubber at the bottom/having the condom break/get removed during the act. On the plus side though, you get a free cockring by doing that. Congratulations.
Also, if you use a condom thats to short, I am sure it will slip off. A condom is not ment to be a goddamn vacuum sealed bag thats impossible to remove without poking a hole in the tip before and it should comfortable reach down to you shaft... Just because you could, doesnt mean you should!

Including how you presented yourself on different occasions in this thread, I will now comfort you by telling you that the size doesnt matter as long as you fulfill certain minimal citerias, and while having bigger diameter seems to be universally "not bad"/advantageous, lenght can cause some serious problems.

And, to calm you even more down, there are also people who need special small condoms. Those exist too and they also are (for the most part) happy. On a sad sidenote though, if you have a very small erect penis, you get kind of screwed when living in the EU since there are regualtions on the minimal diameter/size of a condom which force you to import some condoms from the US/somwhere outside of the EU.

And once again I have to agree with Snotling. There are quite a lot of women who cant take the pill for some reason, without having some sideefects. In the end, condoms are the least inversive method of birth control. They are easy to use(if you get the right ones), dont make that much of a difference(again, if you get the right ones), they dont get hardcountered by antiobiotics and arent only effective, if you hit the right timing and they save you a lot of minerals. I believe most guys disaprove of them just because of ego reasons/it seems inconvenient to them/whatever.
Aaaand, without using a condom, you cant #CondomBrag!
RIP "The big travis CS degree thread", taken from us too soon | Honourable forum princess, defended by Rebs-approved white knights
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 18 2015 06:20 GMT
#13086
YES Finally the day has come
And I can brag about my regular/ perfectly average size dick most condoms fit perfectly
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-18 06:27:52
July 18 2015 06:24 GMT
#13087
also yeah
majority women can't orgasm from vaginal stimulation alone on a regular basis so size of the dick is pretty much irrelevant. You will just meet less tight chicks

[QUOTE]On July 18 2015 06:43 waffelz wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 17 2015 23:32 SixStrings wrote:
. I believe most guys disaprove of them just because of ego reasons/it seems inconvenient to them/whatever.
Aaaand, without using a condom, you cant #CondomBrag![/QUOTE]
It feels I'm closer to her, and literally cumming inside of a woman is better than to a generic latex thing then tossing my dna to the bin.

But I've always used condoms so I don't even know how that'd feel like
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
July 18 2015 06:59 GMT
#13088
I'm not sure whether to be proud or horrified about #CondomBrag.

Also, anybody remember that shitty alien comedy, The Watch? It was basically a feature length ad for Trojan Magnums. It featured freakishly well-endowed aliens who could only be killed by shooting them + Show Spoiler +
in the dick
. "No way some guys are big enough to need those" "Oh, some guys are big enough" [nodding around the room]

#CondomBrag
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
July 18 2015 08:41 GMT
#13089
Damn, and here I am trying to do everything I can to make mine smaller.
#CondomBrag?
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
July 18 2015 08:47 GMT
#13090
Well that went shit.

Started well, sitting in couch watching GoT. Watch 4 episodes get more cuddly with each episode, at the end of the fourth episode we are making out heavily groping etc. Go downstairs to her bed, nervous + death grip + porn ruined = no hard on.
God damn it you guys.

Three things could have gone wrong, come early, never come and no hard on. Of course I got the worst one.
I did sleep over in her bed though. Going to let her know I'm a virgin (in case she somehow missed it) I think.

On the bright side my first time having sex technically isn't bad since I'm still a virgin.

And so begins the era of no fap/no porn.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
July 18 2015 11:38 GMT
#13091
Don't worry it happens to every single one of us. I think telling her in this case is a good step.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
July 18 2015 12:20 GMT
#13092
On July 18 2015 15:24 LemOn wrote:
also yeah
majority women can't orgasm from vaginal stimulation alone on a regular basis so size of the dick is pretty much irrelevant. You will just meet less tight chicks

It feels I'm closer to her, and literally cumming inside of a woman is better than to a generic latex thing then tossing my dna to the bin.

But I've always used condoms so I don't even know how that'd feel like


I think you mixed things up there. The women who cant orgasm from vaginal stimulation alone is by far not the majority. They are a significant amount, but >50%. If I recall correctly, they where around 20-30%, which is significant but not a majority. Would be pretty weird for the "natural" way of orgasm not to work properly in the majority of cases, dont you think?

But, if you are talking about the amount of women who cant orgasm from vaginal penetration alone, you could be right since this number usually includes includes the women mentionend above + the women who have partners who cant make them orgasm via penetration for different reasons(they are able to orgasm from vaginal penetration thiugh, they just dont with their partner at the time the survey took place).

About the DNA in the bin-thing. If this botheres you its ok. That counts towards the "whatever reason". I never felt that way, but I can understand it. Propably goes the same route as the desire of having your partner swallow during oral sex.
I can tell you for a fact though, that sex with condom vs without condom isnt that big of a different in terms whjat you feel down there. I guess it depends on the thickness of the condom though. The feeling closer thing is definitely true though, but for me it always got countered out by the fact that all of my girlfirends where pretty happy with them not having to take the pill. And a condom has the advantage of making less of a mess since a good part of your cum will not stay inside her vagina for very long. And depending how relaxed you are about your own cum, it doesnt prevent you from going down on her afterwards, so dont be sad about it, it has it advantagtes . #CondomBrag

Last but not least, about the size/lenght thing. A bigger diameter is never bad for the women. Most nerves are in the walls at the entrance of the vagina. With a bigger diameter, you stretch that entrance more, create a bigger surface and therefore let more nerves fire good-feeling-signals. You posibly have to start a bit slower though.
The men itself doesnt benefit much from bigger diameter, other than in the few minutes of the act. After that, her vagina will have stretched and adapted to the size for the course of the act. The whole "weaing out"-thing is besides giving birth stupid talk. As long as a women exercises her abdominal muscels, she should always feel "tight" in the begining, as long as you have a regular sized penis. A women can give you aditional feeling of "tightness" during the act though, by contracting her abdominal muscels. This once again only requires you to have a at least regular sized penis.
As a note to the guys: Do also work out your lower abdominal muscels. It wont make your penis bigger in general, but by flexing the right ones, you can make it a little bit harder/bigger which can causes wonders in the right moment. our girl will recognize it and love it. It also helps with lasting even longer.

At the very last, the lenght, just because I am at it. When comparing peniz size, you usually hear lenght. Lenght however, is one of the least important factors and can even be hindering. As I said earlier, most of the stuff for the women happens at the basis and if I recall correctly, the minimum lenght for a penis to reach certain important spots inside a women was about 7cm I think. Could be wrong, but it definitely wasnt much.
A very long penis can be problematic though, depending on the "deepness" of a women. Side note: the deepnes of a women is only sligthly correlated to her height and opposite to her tightness can only be sligthly improved. A small women can easilie have a deeper vagina then a taller one. While I assume that a longer penis with a matching deep vagina is also better then a regular one, a penis thats to long can be quite painfull.
Even slightly hitting the cervix causes major pain for most women and often even triggers a panicattack (rushing heart beat/pain in the chest, shaky legs, abdominal pain, extreme nervousness). In other words, you either have to be very carefull or are completely unable to go all in.
*knowledgebomb dropped* Any further questions? :D
RIP "The big travis CS degree thread", taken from us too soon | Honourable forum princess, defended by Rebs-approved white knights
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-18 12:48:50
July 18 2015 12:47 GMT
#13093
On July 18 2015 21:20 waffelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 15:24 LemOn wrote:
also yeah
majority women can't orgasm from vaginal stimulation alone on a regular basis so size of the dick is pretty much irrelevant. You will just meet less tight chicks

It feels I'm closer to her, and literally cumming inside of a woman is better than to a generic latex thing then tossing my dna to the bin.

But I've always used condoms so I don't even know how that'd feel like


I think you mixed things up there. The women who cant orgasm from vaginal stimulation alone is by far not the majority. They are a significant amount, but >50%. If I recall correctly, they where around 20-30%, which is significant but not a majority. Would be pretty weird for the "natural" way of orgasm not to work properly in the majority of cases, dont you think?

It's actually a large majority, just simple google helps you out here - weird or not, don't ask me why it's that way, it just is
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
July 18 2015 13:18 GMT
#13094
On July 18 2015 21:47 LemOn wrote:
It's actually a large majority, just simple google helps you out here - weird or not, don't ask me why it's that way, it just is


Mind pointing me to them? So far I only found stuff like "cant regulary orgasm through vaginal stimulation"(which is something completely different) and lots of questionable sources/over dramatisized like declaring the vaginal orgasm a myth etc., while I was getting my Information from a bunch of papers that I got access to through the university I was at that time.

I know that in sexual education, there are a ton of "experts" with no real scientific background or methods as well as a lot of empty words and studys that disregard the most important part - the counter experiements, blindstudies/double blindstudies. The standards of sexual educations are very low, especially when it comes to the female part of it. Not to long ago, the female orgasm as a whole was seriously claimed to be a myth by various "scientists".
RIP "The big travis CS degree thread", taken from us too soon | Honourable forum princess, defended by Rebs-approved white knights
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 19 2015 00:24 GMT
#13095
On July 18 2015 17:47 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Well that went shit.

Started well, sitting in couch watching GoT. Watch 4 episodes get more cuddly with each episode, at the end of the fourth episode we are making out heavily groping etc. Go downstairs to her bed, nervous + death grip + porn ruined = no hard on.
God damn it you guys.

Three things could have gone wrong, come early, never come and no hard on. Of course I got the worst one.
I did sleep over in her bed though. Going to let her know I'm a virgin (in case she somehow missed it) I think.

On the bright side my first time having sex technically isn't bad since I'm still a virgin.

And so begins the era of no fap/no porn.

i used to have that happen to me a lot with my ex, still never understood why. (to this day say it was bc she wouldnt stay off my dick long enough for it to recuperate)

just gotta let her know you were nervous and a virgin so she understands lol
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 19 2015 02:33 GMT
#13096
Lol, never heard of no hard on from porn. I didn't know that was a thing. That might influence me to do no porn.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Luoson
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand153 Posts
July 19 2015 03:00 GMT
#13097
Dam you guys are lucky. Sadly the stories here are just a dream that will die with me
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
July 19 2015 04:23 GMT
#13098
On July 19 2015 12:00 Luoson wrote:
Dam you guys are lucky. Sadly the stories here are just a dream that will die with me

wat
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
July 19 2015 04:38 GMT
#13099
Maybe he's just pessimistic about his chances? I believe pretty much anyone has a chance for happy and stable relationships, if you put enough effort into them.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-19 07:23:44
July 19 2015 07:20 GMT
#13100
On July 18 2015 17:47 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Well that went shit.

Started well, sitting in couch watching GoT. Watch 4 episodes get more cuddly with each episode, at the end of the fourth episode we are making out heavily groping etc. Go downstairs to her bed, nervous + death grip + porn ruined = no hard on.
God damn it you guys.

Three things could have gone wrong, come early, never come and no hard on. Of course I got the worst one.
I did sleep over in her bed though. Going to let her know I'm a virgin (in case she somehow missed it) I think.

On the bright side my first time having sex technically isn't bad since I'm still a virgin.

And so begins the era of no fap/no porn.

Even though I don't watch porn for over 6 weeks now and it definitely helps a ton with enjoying real life girls - especially when I date one exclusively
it's not just porn, you are nervous/over thinking - that's completely natural, just keep trying.

It has happened a lot to me 1st time with girls. Now when it happens I just lie there like nothing's happened, no big deal, tell her to come close to me, talk about stuff again - forget about having sex just focus on chatting while she's naked, just playing with her body and usually it comes back without warning after an hour or two- it's mostly about getting out of your head, but of course needs to happen a few times with proper embarrassment until you're used to it :D

FYI most girls feel self conscious, like it's their fault and start judging themselves (not even hot enough for him to get a boner etc.).
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
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