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On December 05 2015 02:59 Cascade wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2015 00:37 Thieving Magpie wrote:On December 04 2015 23:49 Rassy wrote:
Why does the recoil of a weapon always make the weapon go up and never go down?
I have one answer I came up with myself but not sure if its correct. The centre of gravity of the weapon is below the barrel,and then force of the recoil on the upper side of the barrel exerts a torgue.
If this is the reason, then a weapon where the centre of gravity is inside the barrel should not move upwards when firing on automatic right?
And if all this is correct, then if you would hold a weapon upside down then the recoil would make the barrel turn lower? Recoil makes the gun move backwards, not upwards. Its the person holding the gun who moves "up" since he is not pulling the trigger with his crotch. Force pushes the top half of the human body which causes the wielder to angle the gun upwards as his feet form a fulcrum. Yeah, there are a lot of pivot points in recoil. There's the rotation around the centre of mass (com) of the gun as you say, the rotation in the hand of the wielder, the rotation of the wielder around his/her com, and wielders rotation around the contact point with the ground. I assume the first two rotations are the dominating effects for a hand gun, but I am no expert. Anyway, all for rotations will turn the gun up from the recoil, as the momentum of the barrel goes above all the four pivot points (possibly guns com excepted, don't know). To figure out, go to the driving range and shot some gangster style. Does the recoil push the aim up or sideways?
You will not go far doing that in a driving range.
For example, when shooting a 50cal, I didn't notice a damn thing about movement since the rifle was secured to the table. But my body definitely felt the "upward" momentum of the rifle's recoil because my ass was planted on a chair providing the fulcrum. With handguns my wrist was the main fulcrum, the barrel usually pushing backwards until my wrist stopped it, causing a pendulumic arc that would eventually lift my elbow--depending on the caliber. Shotguns definitely had the most upward push, but it was also the one that pushed my body the most with most of the force hitting my shoulder and very little of it going into my fingers and elbows as the gun did not naturally pull up.
For the most part, my fingers never have to prevent a gun a shoot from going up--my body and hands usually prevent it from going back.
But other than first hand experience, I really don't know much.
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Ahaha, driving range! Oops. 
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I'm bored and Blizzard won't let me play Starcraft because an algorithm suddenly decided I'm a hacker.
What should I do with my life? I'm too sleepy to do anything productive, but I want to stay awake until the evening time.
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On December 05 2015 20:27 ZerglingSoup wrote:
I'm bored and Blizzard won't let me play Starcraft because an algorithm suddenly decided I'm a hacker.
What should I do with my life? I'm too sleepy to do anything productive, but I want to stay awake until the evening time.
Write a short description of a book that doesn't exist except superficially in your imagination here.
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On December 05 2015 20:27 ZerglingSoup wrote:
I'm bored and Blizzard won't let me play Starcraft because an algorithm suddenly decided I'm a hacker.
What should I do with my life? I'm too sleepy to do anything productive, but I want to stay awake until the evening time.
Why wouldn't you sleep if you are too sleepy to do anything productive? What's of point of doing not-productive things?
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On December 05 2015 11:27 Epishade wrote:
If I water my tree with chocolate milk, will it grow up big and strong?
yes
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what is worse?:
- emotional cheating (sharing secrets, emotions, hopes, dreams and aspirations, jokes and laughs with someone else(other than our current half), in a somewhat secluded/sheltered/personalized/intimate manner)
- sexual cheating (screwing someone else when in a monogamous relationship; includes all bases)
- does the answer to that depends on ones personality or on ones inability to understands what the other option fully entails?.
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Depends how your couple works, I guess?...
Also depends on the context of the sexual cheating ; ie if it happened with/without alcohol, at a party, at work, only a one-time thing or a regular thing, etc, (basically if it was really premeditated or not)
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nah, those are just excuses(first world problems) you use in order to throw a different light on your otherwise despicable behavior. so no, fuck excuses. i'm mainly looking at/for the reasons, pre- and post- them happenings.
Edit: also, my working hypothesis explicitly stated monogamy so if you're some kind of dude operating on different premises/rules of conduct, i don't care about your semantics.
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On December 09 2015 19:25 OtherWorld wrote:
Depends how your couple works, I guess?...
Also depends on the context of the sexual cheating ; ie if it happened with/without alcohol, at a party, at work, only a one-time thing or a regular thing, etc, (basically if it was really premeditated or not)
How French of you :D
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On December 09 2015 20:12 xM(Z wrote:
nah, those are just excuses(first world problems) you use in order to throw a different light on your otherwise despicable behavior. so no, fuck excuses. i'm mainly looking at/for the reasons, pre- and post- them happenings.
Edit: also, my working hypothesis explicitly stated monogamy so if you're some kind of dude operating on different premises/rules of conduct, i don't care about your semantics.
Err, kinda rough answer, but okay. It was not about semantics, I simply meant that some couples hold mainly because of an emotional bond, while some others don't hold mainly because of that bond. I don't think I can guess which is which with the simple information that it's a monogamous couple.
As for the excuses, well I dunno but to me being under the effect of alcohol or other substances, or having to cope with the constant advances of an indelicate colleague (and possibly hierarchic superior) at work, or having to cope with the constant advances of a sexy boy/girl at a party, are more along the lines of the reasons for it happening rather than excuses.
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On December 09 2015 18:38 xM(Z wrote:
what is worse?:
- emotional cheating (sharing secrets, emotions, hopes, dreams and aspirations, jokes and laughs with someone else(other than our current half), in a somewhat secluded/sheltered/personalized/intimate manner)
- sexual cheating (screwing someone else when in a monogamous relationship; includes all bases)
- does the answer to that depends on ones personality or on ones inability to understands what the other option fully entails?.
Not sure about your alternatives. How is "ones inability to understands what the other option fully entails" not part of "ones personality" ? For the basic question, I'll agree with Velr: probably a cultural thing.
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On December 09 2015 18:38 xM(Z wrote:
what is worse?:
- emotional cheating (sharing secrets, emotions, hopes, dreams and aspirations, jokes and laughs with someone else(other than our current half), in a somewhat secluded/sheltered/personalized/intimate manner)
- sexual cheating (screwing someone else when in a monogamous relationship; includes all bases)
- does the answer to that depends on ones personality or on ones inability to understands what the other option fully entails?.
It really depends I think. It is easy to Come up with situations for both cases that wouldn't be a big deal for some couples, and situations that would be despicable deal breakers.
What does it depend on? Well, culture of course. The level of trust and commitment within the couple. The circumstances and severity of the cheating.
And what do you mean with "worse"? Most ethically unjustified for me, or some consensus group of people? That'd be highly subjective of course.
To be able to find an objective answer to this kind of questions, I like to reformulate these moral questions in terms of actual measurables not depending on ethics. In this case, you could ask which type of cheating is most likely to break up the couple (with a year if you want)?
And to answer that question, you'd have to imagine cases where only one type appear. I imagine most emotional cheating leads to sexual as well most often for example. Maybe not always easy to tell which one was first. I mean... In practice it's often not easy to tell if something counts as emotional cheating or not, and many people would disagree on a lot of cases. In the end I am not even sure if it is really meaningful to separate the two. Both involve violation of the trust in the monogamy as you present it.
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On December 09 2015 20:43 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2015 20:12 xM(Z wrote:
nah, those are just excuses(first world problems) you use in order to throw a different light on your otherwise despicable behavior. so no, fuck excuses. i'm mainly looking at/for the reasons, pre- and post- them happenings.
Edit: also, my working hypothesis explicitly stated monogamy so if you're some kind of dude operating on different premises/rules of conduct, i don't care about your semantics. Err, kinda rough answer, but okay. It was not about semantics, I simply meant that some couples hold mainly because of an emotional bond, while some others don't hold mainly because of that bond. I don't think I can guess which is which with the simple information that it's a monogamous couple. As for the excuses, well I dunno but to me being under the effect of alcohol or other substances, or having to cope with the constant advances of an indelicate colleague (and possibly hierarchic superior) at work, or having to cope with the constant advances of a sexy boy/girl at a party, are more along the lines of the reasons for it happening rather than excuses.
you're still confused. on one hand you acknowledge that temptations exists and that you know in which form and from where they come and on the other hand, you choose to be under the effects/influence of other substances .. to make sure it'll happen.
that's called exemption of ones responsibilities by means of artificially, purposely and knowingly shifting the blame.
you either drink and own up to the consequences or don't drink and have no consequences to amend for.
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On December 09 2015 21:20 Oshuy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2015 18:38 xM(Z wrote:
what is worse?:
- emotional cheating (sharing secrets, emotions, hopes, dreams and aspirations, jokes and laughs with someone else(other than our current half), in a somewhat secluded/sheltered/personalized/intimate manner)
- sexual cheating (screwing someone else when in a monogamous relationship; includes all bases)
- does the answer to that depends on ones personality or on ones inability to understands what the other option fully entails?. Not sure about your alternatives. How is "ones inability to understands what the other option fully entails" not part of "ones personality" ? For the basic question, I'll agree with Velr: probably a cultural thing.
ex(on what something could entail):
when one says to his chosen one that she had an affair he could think of:
- missionary position and forgive her(or, something else easier to forgive)
or
- worthy of an oscar porn scene and never forgive her.
i'd say that shift in perspective with respects to the same confession is based on imagination not personality; it could be close thou.
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On December 09 2015 21:43 Cascade wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2015 18:38 xM(Z wrote:
what is worse?:
- emotional cheating (sharing secrets, emotions, hopes, dreams and aspirations, jokes and laughs with someone else(other than our current half), in a somewhat secluded/sheltered/personalized/intimate manner)
- sexual cheating (screwing someone else when in a monogamous relationship; includes all bases)
- does the answer to that depends on ones personality or on ones inability to understands what the other option fully entails?. It really depends I think. It is easy to Come up with situations for both cases that wouldn't be a big deal for some couples, and situations that would be despicable deal breakers. What does it depend on? Well, culture of course. The level of trust and commitment within the couple. The circumstances and severity of the cheating. And what do you mean with "worse"? Most ethically unjustified for me, or some consensus group of people? That'd be highly subjective of course. To be able to find an objective answer to this kind of questions, I like to reformulate these moral questions in terms of actual measurables not depending on ethics. In this case, you could ask which type of cheating is most likely to break up the couple (with a year if you want)?And to answer that question, you'd have to imagine cases where only one type appear. I imagine most emotional cheating leads to sexual as well most often for example. Maybe not always easy to tell which one was first. I mean... In practice it's often not easy to tell if something counts as emotional cheating or not, and many people would disagree on a lot of cases. In the end I am not even sure if it is really meaningful to separate the two. Both involve violation of the trust in the monogamy as you present it.
well at this point i'm thinking the questions were to personal so people will just dance around instead of giving actual answers. basically, you're not wrong when you try to explain some things or fit some patterns but that's just not an answer for me/to me.
for the bolded part: you're dancing there. there's a clear cut distinction in both those matters and is based on the level of guilt/shame the perpetrator feels. you can then argue that such guilt is subjective and somewhat culture/personality based but don't confuse that with statements like - there are no clear breaking points, it's all a haze etcetc.
there are clear cut lines that are crossed knowingly or knowingly shifting the blame on someone/something else (alcohol, drugs, or whatever).
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On December 09 2015 21:52 xM(Z wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2015 20:43 OtherWorld wrote:On December 09 2015 20:12 xM(Z wrote:
nah, those are just excuses(first world problems) you use in order to throw a different light on your otherwise despicable behavior. so no, fuck excuses. i'm mainly looking at/for the reasons, pre- and post- them happenings.
Edit: also, my working hypothesis explicitly stated monogamy so if you're some kind of dude operating on different premises/rules of conduct, i don't care about your semantics. Err, kinda rough answer, but okay. It was not about semantics, I simply meant that some couples hold mainly because of an emotional bond, while some others don't hold mainly because of that bond. I don't think I can guess which is which with the simple information that it's a monogamous couple. As for the excuses, well I dunno but to me being under the effect of alcohol or other substances, or having to cope with the constant advances of an indelicate colleague (and possibly hierarchic superior) at work, or having to cope with the constant advances of a sexy boy/girl at a party, are more along the lines of the reasons for it happening rather than excuses. you're still confused. on one hand you acknowledge that temptations exists and that you know in which form and from where they come and on the other hand, you choose to be under the effects/influence of other substances .. to make sure it'll happen. that's called exemption of ones responsibilities by means of artificially, purposely and knowingly shifting the blame. you either drink and own up to the consequences or don't drink and have no consequences to amend for.
I don't get it. Yes I mentioned alcohol, but that's not the only thing I mentioned, and I don't really know why you're so focused on this. Thus no, I don't "choose to be under the effects of other substances to make sure it'll happen". I mean yes, that's true, some people will do that, although most of the time they don't consciously think "hey, I'm going to get drunk because if I'm not drunk I won't manage to cheat on my bf/gf", it's a somewhat inconscious decision. But there are tons of other cases : people who cheat because of specific social situations, without any added substances involved, people who cheat simply because they want to experience something different, people who cheat because even though they have a bf/gf, they like knowing that they're attractive to other people, etc. These are not excuses ; these are reasons, and you can make them excuses if you want to.
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On December 09 2015 23:47 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2015 21:52 xM(Z wrote:On December 09 2015 20:43 OtherWorld wrote:On December 09 2015 20:12 xM(Z wrote:
nah, those are just excuses(first world problems) you use in order to throw a different light on your otherwise despicable behavior. so no, fuck excuses. i'm mainly looking at/for the reasons, pre- and post- them happenings.
Edit: also, my working hypothesis explicitly stated monogamy so if you're some kind of dude operating on different premises/rules of conduct, i don't care about your semantics. Err, kinda rough answer, but okay. It was not about semantics, I simply meant that some couples hold mainly because of an emotional bond, while some others don't hold mainly because of that bond. I don't think I can guess which is which with the simple information that it's a monogamous couple. As for the excuses, well I dunno but to me being under the effect of alcohol or other substances, or having to cope with the constant advances of an indelicate colleague (and possibly hierarchic superior) at work, or having to cope with the constant advances of a sexy boy/girl at a party, are more along the lines of the reasons for it happening rather than excuses. you're still confused. on one hand you acknowledge that temptations exists and that you know in which form and from where they come and on the other hand, you choose to be under the effects/influence of other substances .. to make sure it'll happen. that's called exemption of ones responsibilities by means of artificially, purposely and knowingly shifting the blame. you either drink and own up to the consequences or don't drink and have no consequences to amend for. I don't get it. Yes I mentioned alcohol, but that's not the only thing I mentioned, and I don't really know why you're so focused on this. Thus no, I don't "choose to be under the effects of other substances to make sure it'll happen". I mean yes, that's true, some people will do that, although most of the time they don't consciously think "hey, I'm going to get drunk because if I'm not drunk I won't manage to cheat on my bf/gf", it's a somewhat inconscious decision. But there are tons of other cases : people who cheat because of specific social situations, without any added substances involved, people who cheat simply because they want to experience something different, people who cheat because even though they have a bf/gf, they like knowing that they're attractive to other people, etc. These are not excuses ; these are reasons, and you can make them excuses if you want to.
those are semantics.
there's nothing(but yourself) stopping you from knowing that you're attractive to other people even though you don't have a gf ...
i cheat because cheating makes me feel good about my self. seriously, whatthefuck is that; i don't even ...
there's nothing inconscious there. you do it knowingly because ... you like doing it; hurting someone makes you feel good or something. i'm not going to psychobabble you right now but just know - you can't play the ignorance card here. it doesn't work.
ps: + Show Spoiler +just stop cheating dude, lol
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On December 09 2015 23:47 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2015 21:52 xM(Z wrote:On December 09 2015 20:43 OtherWorld wrote:On December 09 2015 20:12 xM(Z wrote:
nah, those are just excuses(first world problems) you use in order to throw a different light on your otherwise despicable behavior. so no, fuck excuses. i'm mainly looking at/for the reasons, pre- and post- them happenings.
Edit: also, my working hypothesis explicitly stated monogamy so if you're some kind of dude operating on different premises/rules of conduct, i don't care about your semantics. Err, kinda rough answer, but okay. It was not about semantics, I simply meant that some couples hold mainly because of an emotional bond, while some others don't hold mainly because of that bond. I don't think I can guess which is which with the simple information that it's a monogamous couple. As for the excuses, well I dunno but to me being under the effect of alcohol or other substances, or having to cope with the constant advances of an indelicate colleague (and possibly hierarchic superior) at work, or having to cope with the constant advances of a sexy boy/girl at a party, are more along the lines of the reasons for it happening rather than excuses. you're still confused. on one hand you acknowledge that temptations exists and that you know in which form and from where they come and on the other hand, you choose to be under the effects/influence of other substances .. to make sure it'll happen. that's called exemption of ones responsibilities by means of artificially, purposely and knowingly shifting the blame. you either drink and own up to the consequences or don't drink and have no consequences to amend for. I don't get it. Yes I mentioned alcohol, but that's not the only thing I mentioned, and I don't really know why you're so focused on this. Thus no, I don't "choose to be under the effects of other substances to make sure it'll happen". I mean yes, that's true, some people will do that, although most of the time they don't consciously think "hey, I'm going to get drunk because if I'm not drunk I won't manage to cheat on my bf/gf", it's a somewhat inconscious decision. But there are tons of other cases : people who cheat because of specific social situations, without any added substances involved, people who cheat simply because they want to experience something different, people who cheat because even though they have a bf/gf, they like knowing that they're attractive to other people, etc. These are not excuses ; these are reasons, and you can make them excuses if you want to.
No, those are excuses. I have yet to ever hear of a justifiable reason to cheat on someone. Are they a bad boyfriend or girlfriend? Are they not treating you right? Then dump their ass first.
You wanna try something new? No one's gonna stop you, but at least have the moral decency to talk to your girlfriend first and not do it behind her back. If you're in an exclusive relationship and you don't want to be in an exclusive relationship anymore, then break up with her. Be honest. You're allowed to want to try other things, new things... but you're also supposed to honor the honesty and communication aspects of your current relationship.
As far as sexual vs. emotional cheating is concerned, I'd personally have a harder time dealing with sexual cheating instead of emotional cheating, but it's different for everyone (and for some people, they don't even consider such a thing as emotional cheating).
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On December 10 2015 03:12 xM(Z wrote:
or say you're a closeted polygamist or something. it's fine; judge-able, but fine. Why should it be judge-able? Monogamy is a lifestyle choice based on how your sexuality is developed. But so is polygamy. They cater to different people. Just because monogamy is the standard, doesn't make everything else automatically an invalid way to live.
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