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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
December 10 2010 14:17 GMT
#161
Hiphop music is more enjoyable. Metal is childish and phase music, at best.

Rock music as a whole has died over the past 5 years. There's nothing new or innovative anymore.

Hiphop is really the music of this generation, and though you say hip-hop embodies things like vanity and greed, that's pretty ignorant. Good hip-hop music has meaning, so I don't know where a lot of the opinions in this thread are coming from.
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howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 14:25:56
December 10 2010 14:18 GMT
#162
On December 10 2010 15:40 MahatmaSC2 wrote:
Where's all the love for metal? I listen to different kinds, from death metal like Cannibal Corpse to thrash metal like Slayer or old Metallica. I also listen to some nu metal bands like KoRn or System of a Down. I love it & the guys that play metal have far more skill than those who just use computer generated noises and talking into a microphone. Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music?


The way you dislike rap is the way I dislike metal.
Stop trying to play your guitar fast and write something interesting and melodic.
Why don't more kids play math rock?

That's just what I play and it's what I'm into, to each his own.











but also, I don't get how rap became and has stayed so popular. There are some good artist, but the majority of what most people listen to and what I hear is pretty bad. I have some friends who listen to Kid Cudi and Asher Roth, I don't really know the songs but alot of it is pretty good.
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 14:27:33
December 10 2010 14:25 GMT
#163
On December 10 2010 23:12 sith wrote:
To everyone decrying hip hop as a genre: how would you feel if I based my entire judgement of your musical tastes off a few (awful) mainstream artists? You want me to judge all of country music off of Taylor Swift? How about I just assume after I heard a Metallica song on the radio that all of metal is shit. Hell, is Metallica even considered metal? Who cares, it's awful! This is essentially what you're doing.


Wholeheartedly agree with this. Anyway, here's the metal I like;


And the rap I like;


On December 10 2010 23:18 howerpower wrote:
The way you dislike rap is the way I dislike metal.
Stop trying to play your guitar fast and write something interesting and melodic.
Why don't more kids play math rock?

That's just what I play and it's what I'm into, to each his own.


You should probably check out both Nightwish and Sonata Arctica and come back with the melodic argument. Obviously there's more, a lot more.
son1dow
Profile Joined May 2009
Lithuania322 Posts
December 10 2010 14:26 GMT
#164
Personally, I prefer metal over anything else because it simply gives me a huge boost of adrenalin, confidence and even arrogance - it's overwhelming and I cannot imagine most other (including all or hip hop\rap if it it's not mixed up with something else) music offering something like that, to anyone. The only way I would compare music is by it's complexity - and I think it's a big part of why I love metal, but then again, I haven't had such a feeling when listening to the more complex classical music; I guess aggressive feelings are just stronger when it comes to music for me. Or not aggressive even, just "powerful" or emotional, hah. So it may very well be that I just can't understand classical music, but I really can't imagine anyone being as overwhelmed when listening to hip hop - for me, all it can be is just a better mood even.
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Zabimaru
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom132 Posts
December 10 2010 14:29 GMT
#165
The amount of ignorance in this thread is amazing... I am almost speechless by it. Seriously.

Metal and rock is far from childish and nor has is died. I work in music so I can say my opinion counts for something at least- because this is my job, my life and my passion. Both Hip-hop and rock and metal have great senses going on, with even genres blurring the edges into one another. I see no need to even compare them in the manner some people are in this thread- music can be very localized, with some areas mainly metal and others hip-hop, giving the illusion that one genre is more popular than the other.

Music is an art form- therefore an expression. There is no right or wrong, nor is either genre better than the other.

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HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 14:45:27
December 10 2010 14:35 GMT
#166
yeap i think its personal taste. i personally think metal is crap.

hip hop is good and i like the more lyrical artists like eminem and kanye, but also other artists and songs that are just good to jam to like lil wayne (which is lyrically sick at times too) and wiz khalifa.
here's a good example, i dont know who wouldnt like this song:

so to answer your question why does everyone love hiphop now?BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS ^

it might not be the mostt deep poetic shit you've ever heard lol but it entertains and its a damn good song. That sonata artica shit postred above me....i dno thats too touchy feely and sounds like crap. IMO
wiz khalifa FTW!


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keeblur
Profile Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
December 10 2010 14:36 GMT
#167
I've said it many times, and it shames me other people can't see it the same way.

Music is relative. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean others don't. I like the color blue, are you going to tell me that blue is inferior to the color you like?

Grow up.
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
December 10 2010 14:37 GMT
#168
Good hip hop is entertaining.

Good metal is entertaining.

Bad hip hop is bad.

Bad metal is bad.

Thank you.
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howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
December 10 2010 14:38 GMT
#169
On December 10 2010 23:35 HeavenS wrote:
yeap i think its personal taste. i personally think metal is crap.

hip hop is good and i like the more lyrical artists like eminem and kanye, but also other artists and songs that are just good to jam to like lil wayne (which is lyrically sick at times too) and wiz khalifa.
here's a good example, i dont know who wouldnt like this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw
so to answer your question why does everyone love hiphop now?BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS ^

it might not be the mostt deep poetic shit you've ever heard lol but it entertains and its a damn good song. That sonata artica shit postred above me....i dno thats too touchy feely and sounds like crap. IMO
wiz khalifa FTW!


lord, it's just so so so bad.
ilmman
Profile Joined September 2010
364 Posts
December 10 2010 14:42 GMT
#170
ppl like music because of the lyrics?

i thought we just enjoyed the catchy beats and rhythm cause thats where you feel the music... otherwise i could say i could sing any song with a "mary had a little lamb" tone and it would be top 10 in charts because "lyrics" are so important...
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
December 10 2010 15:00 GMT
#171
On December 10 2010 23:38 howerpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 23:35 HeavenS wrote:
yeap i think its personal taste. i personally think metal is crap.

hip hop is good and i like the more lyrical artists like eminem and kanye, but also other artists and songs that are just good to jam to like lil wayne (which is lyrically sick at times too) and wiz khalifa.
here's a good example, i dont know who wouldnt like this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw
so to answer your question why does everyone love hiphop now?BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS ^

it might not be the mostt deep poetic shit you've ever heard lol but it entertains and its a damn good song. That sonata artica shit postred above me....i dno thats too touchy feely and sounds like crap. IMO
wiz khalifa FTW!


lord, it's just so so so bad.

Yeah I gotta agree, I like hip hop but I don't like this very much. Here's a couple examples of things I like.


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Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 15:27:52
December 10 2010 15:03 GMT
#172
On December 10 2010 16:01 PUPATREE wrote:
The dumb are mostly intrigued by the drum.


one of the best and truest lines ever spoken honestly. wu tang clan ain't nothin to fuck with.

edit: obligatory 'why hip hop is good' songs:





and just because you made a point to call the beats electronic, prolly one of my favorite hip hop songs ever on a very smooth INSTRUMENTAL beat

son1dow
Profile Joined May 2009
Lithuania322 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 15:16:33
December 10 2010 15:07 GMT
#173
On December 10 2010 23:37 bonifaceviii wrote:
Good hip hop is entertaining.

Good metal is entertaining.

Bad hip hop is bad.

Bad metal is bad.

Thank you.


I agree on everything apart from this:

Good metal is entertaining.



I think we take (and I've felt this for a hundred times) metal very differently. Very rarely is metal entertaining to me, what it usually is is "empowering" or flat out overwhelming.

Edit: It's kind of why, in my theory, metal is not as popular nowadays - it requires a way different attitude and more attention than most other music, and the heavier, more complex genres definitely require a "taste development" process to be even listenable. Before it just hit mainstream and that was why people tried it out, now they simply don't instead they just hear it for a few times and decide that it's not as entertaining as other music, not grasping that it's not even supposed to be entertaining, in my opinion. I pity those people, metal is like a drug for me :\
Play more Quake.
howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
December 10 2010 15:07 GMT
#174
On December 11 2010 00:00 jello_biafra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 23:38 howerpower wrote:
On December 10 2010 23:35 HeavenS wrote:
yeap i think its personal taste. i personally think metal is crap.

hip hop is good and i like the more lyrical artists like eminem and kanye, but also other artists and songs that are just good to jam to like lil wayne (which is lyrically sick at times too) and wiz khalifa.
here's a good example, i dont know who wouldnt like this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw
so to answer your question why does everyone love hiphop now?BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS ^

it might not be the mostt deep poetic shit you've ever heard lol but it entertains and its a damn good song. That sonata artica shit postred above me....i dno thats too touchy feely and sounds like crap. IMO
wiz khalifa FTW!


lord, it's just so so so bad.

Yeah I gotta agree, I like hip hop but I don't like this very much. Here's a couple examples of things I like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSSVeHBm2V0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofuad5I_hds


nice post man, this stuff sounds way better.
Raskit
Profile Joined July 2009
579 Posts
December 10 2010 15:18 GMT
#175
A slice of Hip-Hop
+ Show Spoiler +














Clickety
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal196 Posts
December 10 2010 15:25 GMT
#176
A slice of Metal
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=236Lquwq22A







EyeballKid
Profile Joined May 2010
6 Posts
December 10 2010 15:26 GMT
#177
On December 10 2010 15:40 MahatmaSC2 wrote:
Where's all the love for metal? I listen to different kinds, from death metal like Cannibal Corpse to thrash metal like Slayer or old Metallica. I also listen to some nu metal bands like KoRn or System of a Down. I love it & the guys that play metal have far more skill than those who just use computer generated noises and talking into a microphone. Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music?


You should really educate yourself on what you are talking about if you want to make posts like these. The argument that rap doesn't require any skill to make is really tiresome, and always made by people who don't really know what they are talking about and cite bad rappers as examples (Pop music isn't bad because Katy Perry is bad, either). Rap, like all major genres of music, has musical genius'. Try listening with an open mind to artists like Nas, Wu-Tang Clan and Pharoahe Monch (his flow is extremely skilful).

I also think that too much emphasis on technical skill takes away from other aspects of listening to music (DragonForce, for instance, make horrible music). Sometimes less is more.

Anyway, I don't really think metal as a genre is suffering. I think Metallica are the 7th best selling band from the US ever or something like that. You would have more to complain about if you were a country or classic soul fan.
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
December 10 2010 15:27 GMT
#178
On December 10 2010 23:29 Zabimaru wrote:
The amount of ignorance in this thread is amazing... I am almost speechless by it. Seriously.

Metal and rock is far from childish and nor has is died. I work in music so I can say my opinion counts for something at least- because this is my job, my life and my passion. Both Hip-hop and rock and metal have great senses going on, with even genres blurring the edges into one another. I see no need to even compare them in the manner some people are in this thread- music can be very localized, with some areas mainly metal and others hip-hop, giving the illusion that one genre is more popular than the other.

Music is an art form- therefore an expression. There is no right or wrong, nor is either genre better than the other.

Now I’m going to get back to learning Serenity Painted Death and The Count of Tuscany for a gig coming up.
Peace and Muisc to all. ^_^


Serenity Painted Death! You sir win this thread
what instrument do you play? Whatever it is gj on playing it at Petrucci/Portnoy/Myung/Rudess level, whichever is applicable lol
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 15:31:47
December 10 2010 15:30 GMT
#179
Okay, there is good rap just like there is good music in every genre of music.
You cannot go listen to a radio or watch MTV and expect to hear the good stuff, what gets crap in radios and MTV is money and brainwashing IMO.
Rap as a genre started good but somewhere aroun 2000 when it first became "big" it started to get twisted. Now the genre is characterized with black guys in ridiculous clothes, with alot of bitches dancin around. Lyrics are always about money, bitches, partying, gangsta shit or something like that filled with cursewords and the n-word.
Dead, soulless crap. Sometimes there's these RnB dime in a dozen stars(read. bitches) shaking their booty and singing something stupid to mix things up. Every rapper sounds pretty much the same or worse & the rapping has almost no melody and the music is simply terrible. And people have boxed themselves in so compeletely, it's so repetitive!
If you want to hear good music with the raps go listen a few songs of cypress hill.

Here is some of the better stuff. Listen to the music ffs!

https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
December 10 2010 15:30 GMT
#180
Giving away a message that sounds good with little skill should be even better. But saying Hip hop takes no skill is retarded. Try writing a piece and try singing a piece and you´ll see why.

Just listen to this:



Such a deep and dark message, sung perfectly with perfect rhymes. Try doing that yourself.
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