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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
Rock music as a whole has died over the past 5 years. There's nothing new or innovative anymore. Hiphop is really the music of this generation, and though you say hip-hop embodies things like vanity and greed, that's pretty ignorant. Good hip-hop music has meaning, so I don't know where a lot of the opinions in this thread are coming from. | ||
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howerpower
United States619 Posts
On December 10 2010 15:40 MahatmaSC2 wrote: Where's all the love for metal? I listen to different kinds, from death metal like Cannibal Corpse to thrash metal like Slayer or old Metallica. I also listen to some nu metal bands like KoRn or System of a Down. I love it & the guys that play metal have far more skill than those who just use computer generated noises and talking into a microphone. Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music? The way you dislike rap is the way I dislike metal. Stop trying to play your guitar fast and write something interesting and melodic. Why don't more kids play math rock? That's just what I play and it's what I'm into, to each his own. but also, I don't get how rap became and has stayed so popular. There are some good artist, but the majority of what most people listen to and what I hear is pretty bad. I have some friends who listen to Kid Cudi and Asher Roth, I don't really know the songs but alot of it is pretty good. | ||
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HellRoxYa
Sweden1614 Posts
On December 10 2010 23:12 sith wrote: To everyone decrying hip hop as a genre: how would you feel if I based my entire judgement of your musical tastes off a few (awful) mainstream artists? You want me to judge all of country music off of Taylor Swift? How about I just assume after I heard a Metallica song on the radio that all of metal is shit. Hell, is Metallica even considered metal? Who cares, it's awful! This is essentially what you're doing. Wholeheartedly agree with this. Anyway, here's the metal I like; And the rap I like; On December 10 2010 23:18 howerpower wrote: The way you dislike rap is the way I dislike metal. Stop trying to play your guitar fast and write something interesting and melodic. Why don't more kids play math rock? That's just what I play and it's what I'm into, to each his own. You should probably check out both Nightwish and Sonata Arctica and come back with the melodic argument. Obviously there's more, a lot more. | ||
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son1dow
Lithuania322 Posts
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Zabimaru
United Kingdom132 Posts
Metal and rock is far from childish and nor has is died. I work in music so I can say my opinion counts for something at least- because this is my job, my life and my passion. Both Hip-hop and rock and metal have great senses going on, with even genres blurring the edges into one another. I see no need to even compare them in the manner some people are in this thread- music can be very localized, with some areas mainly metal and others hip-hop, giving the illusion that one genre is more popular than the other. Music is an art form- therefore an expression. There is no right or wrong, nor is either genre better than the other. Now I’m going to get back to learning Serenity Painted Death and The Count of Tuscany for a gig coming up. Peace and Muisc to all. ^_^ | ||
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HeavenS
Colombia2259 Posts
hip hop is good and i like the more lyrical artists like eminem and kanye, but also other artists and songs that are just good to jam to like lil wayne (which is lyrically sick at times too) and wiz khalifa. here's a good example, i dont know who wouldnt like this song: so to answer your question why does everyone love hiphop now?BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS ^ it might not be the mostt deep poetic shit you've ever heard lol but it entertains and its a damn good song. That sonata artica shit postred above me....i dno thats too touchy feely and sounds like crap. IMO wiz khalifa FTW! *Note: Black and yellow = Pittsburgh | ||
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keeblur
United States826 Posts
Music is relative. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean others don't. I like the color blue, are you going to tell me that blue is inferior to the color you like? Grow up. | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
Good metal is entertaining. Bad hip hop is bad. Bad metal is bad. Thank you. | ||
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howerpower
United States619 Posts
On December 10 2010 23:35 HeavenS wrote: yeap i think its personal taste. i personally think metal is crap. hip hop is good and i like the more lyrical artists like eminem and kanye, but also other artists and songs that are just good to jam to like lil wayne (which is lyrically sick at times too) and wiz khalifa. here's a good example, i dont know who wouldnt like this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw so to answer your question why does everyone love hiphop now?BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS ^ it might not be the mostt deep poetic shit you've ever heard lol but it entertains and its a damn good song. That sonata artica shit postred above me....i dno thats too touchy feely and sounds like crap. IMO wiz khalifa FTW! lord, it's just so so so bad. | ||
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ilmman
364 Posts
i thought we just enjoyed the catchy beats and rhythm cause thats where you feel the music... otherwise i could say i could sing any song with a "mary had a little lamb" tone and it would be top 10 in charts because "lyrics" are so important... | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6632 Posts
Yeah I gotta agree, I like hip hop but I don't like this very much. Here's a couple examples of things I like. | ||
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Herculix
United States946 Posts
On December 10 2010 16:01 PUPATREE wrote: The dumb are mostly intrigued by the drum. one of the best and truest lines ever spoken honestly. wu tang clan ain't nothin to fuck with. edit: obligatory 'why hip hop is good' songs: and just because you made a point to call the beats electronic, prolly one of my favorite hip hop songs ever on a very smooth INSTRUMENTAL beat | ||
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son1dow
Lithuania322 Posts
On December 10 2010 23:37 bonifaceviii wrote: Good hip hop is entertaining. Good metal is entertaining. Bad hip hop is bad. Bad metal is bad. Thank you. I agree on everything apart from this: Good metal is entertaining. I think we take (and I've felt this for a hundred times) metal very differently. Very rarely is metal entertaining to me, what it usually is is "empowering" or flat out overwhelming. Edit: It's kind of why, in my theory, metal is not as popular nowadays - it requires a way different attitude and more attention than most other music, and the heavier, more complex genres definitely require a "taste development" process to be even listenable. Before it just hit mainstream and that was why people tried it out, now they simply don't instead they just hear it for a few times and decide that it's not as entertaining as other music, not grasping that it's not even supposed to be entertaining, in my opinion. I pity those people, metal is like a drug for me :\ | ||
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howerpower
United States619 Posts
On December 11 2010 00:00 jello_biafra wrote: Yeah I gotta agree, I like hip hop but I don't like this very much. Here's a couple examples of things I like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSSVeHBm2V0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofuad5I_hds nice post man, this stuff sounds way better. | ||
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Raskit
579 Posts
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Portugal196 Posts
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EyeballKid
6 Posts
On December 10 2010 15:40 MahatmaSC2 wrote: Where's all the love for metal? I listen to different kinds, from death metal like Cannibal Corpse to thrash metal like Slayer or old Metallica. I also listen to some nu metal bands like KoRn or System of a Down. I love it & the guys that play metal have far more skill than those who just use computer generated noises and talking into a microphone. Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music? You should really educate yourself on what you are talking about if you want to make posts like these. The argument that rap doesn't require any skill to make is really tiresome, and always made by people who don't really know what they are talking about and cite bad rappers as examples (Pop music isn't bad because Katy Perry is bad, either). Rap, like all major genres of music, has musical genius'. Try listening with an open mind to artists like Nas, Wu-Tang Clan and Pharoahe Monch (his flow is extremely skilful). I also think that too much emphasis on technical skill takes away from other aspects of listening to music (DragonForce, for instance, make horrible music). Sometimes less is more. Anyway, I don't really think metal as a genre is suffering. I think Metallica are the 7th best selling band from the US ever or something like that. You would have more to complain about if you were a country or classic soul fan. | ||
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
On December 10 2010 23:29 Zabimaru wrote: The amount of ignorance in this thread is amazing... I am almost speechless by it. Seriously. Metal and rock is far from childish and nor has is died. I work in music so I can say my opinion counts for something at least- because this is my job, my life and my passion. Both Hip-hop and rock and metal have great senses going on, with even genres blurring the edges into one another. I see no need to even compare them in the manner some people are in this thread- music can be very localized, with some areas mainly metal and others hip-hop, giving the illusion that one genre is more popular than the other. Music is an art form- therefore an expression. There is no right or wrong, nor is either genre better than the other. Now I’m going to get back to learning Serenity Painted Death and The Count of Tuscany for a gig coming up. Peace and Muisc to all. ^_^ Serenity Painted Death! You sir win this thread what instrument do you play? Whatever it is gj on playing it at Petrucci/Portnoy/Myung/Rudess level, whichever is applicable lol | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
You cannot go listen to a radio or watch MTV and expect to hear the good stuff, what gets crap in radios and MTV is money and brainwashing IMO. Rap as a genre started good but somewhere aroun 2000 when it first became "big" it started to get twisted. Now the genre is characterized with black guys in ridiculous clothes, with alot of bitches dancin around. Lyrics are always about money, bitches, partying, gangsta shit or something like that filled with cursewords and the n-word. Dead, soulless crap. Sometimes there's these RnB dime in a dozen stars(read. bitches) shaking their booty and singing something stupid to mix things up. Every rapper sounds pretty much the same or worse & the rapping has almost no melody and the music is simply terrible. And people have boxed themselves in so compeletely, it's so repetitive! If you want to hear good music with the raps go listen a few songs of cypress hill. Here is some of the better stuff. Listen to the music ffs! | ||
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Slakter
Sweden1947 Posts
Just listen to this: Such a deep and dark message, sung perfectly with perfect rhymes. Try doing that yourself. | ||
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