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N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
December 10 2010 16:30 GMT
#201
Sorry I'm not involved in the craziness that is labeling music to death. Metal is anything that has screaming to me, unless its stupid ass emo shit.

Grindcore, metalcore, deathcore, black metal, mathcore, it really is endless and it's all kinda bullshit to me.

I just like the screaming.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Kenderson
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada280 Posts
December 10 2010 16:35 GMT
#202
I used to hate metal because of the vocals but once I became more tollerant, it became apparent that metal is worth listening to for the guitar/drums alone in many cases. After I listened to it for a while, a funny thing happened. Now I LIKE the vocals. Weird eh? Only some bands though.

Favourites ATM:

All That Remains (their latest album in particular is my favourite album of all time)
August Burns Red
Bullet For My Valentine
Miss May I
"Faced with what is right, to leave it undone shows a lack of courage." -Confucious
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
December 10 2010 16:39 GMT
#203
Of course u have to love hiphop? and dubstep of course and some trance! oh yeah baby
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 10 2010 16:39 GMT
#204
On December 11 2010 01:18 Lexpar wrote:
Man metal makes no sense to me. It's literally everyone playing every note as fast as they cane on their instrument. Every song sounds the same. Modern metal is pretty emotionless. FYI screaming every lyric does not equal emotion. In my mind, most of these guys are losers who took 12 years of music lessons, but since they can't write songs they just write stupid shit about disembowelment and decapitation that any fourth grader could drool out and scream it as loud and fast as possible. Not my pride of lions.

I like old tunes from the 60's and 70's. While the players in some cases aren't as mechanically excellent, the songs are always filled with emotion.

There's definitely bands around right now that use metal aesthetics that don't put all their attention on technique.





They are both bands that are heavily influenced by and heavily influence the drone sub-genre but the songs have unmistakeably metal aesthetics.
Finky27
Profile Joined November 2010
Algeria45 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 16:49:36
December 10 2010 16:43 GMT
#205
Yeah modern music makes me sad
I don't even watch MTV anymore
Don't even get me started on Autotune and them annoying disco music
IMO 90's had the best disco and 80's metal are classics

I personally enjoy any music that is good no matter what genre. I had to admit hip hop/rap does have its few classics that are pleasing to listen to, just that majority sucked.
Metal is probably my favorite. "Normal" people think I like metal because I'm a screwed up emo or some shit but truth is I just like the complexity of metal music, especially thrash metal -- balanced combination of speed and techinicality. Love for metal is bpobably sparked by my interest in electronic guitars and drums, when I'm listening metal I'm either air-guitaring or air-drumming haw haw haw. The harsh vocals are bonus

Same with OP, I like slayer, metallica that kinda band. Remember KoRn was the band that introduced me to metal, good nu-metal band.
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
December 10 2010 16:44 GMT
#206
Well, that's the Internet, everybody is always elitist about the music the listen to.

I in particular love power and symphonic metal because that's just the music that goes with my personality and to be honest i despise certain genres like hip hop and reggaeton (for those that don't know it, it's the latino style urban music) because they represent things with which i don't feel identified at all, but that doesn't make it better or worse music, just different.
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Dystisis
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway713 Posts
December 10 2010 16:49 GMT
#207
On December 10 2010 16:01 PUPATREE wrote:
The dumb are mostly intrigued by the drum.

What the f..? Drums (and rhythm) have a big role in metal as well, in case you did not know. Many metal bands actually rely a lot on using complex rhythmical meters. Melodic and harmonic organization pales in comparison, in my opinion.

In fact, that is one of the reasons why I generally don't care that much for rap. It is almost exclusively in standard 4/4, little syncopation, etc. I am sure someone could dig up an exception or two, I am speaking generalities here.
son1dow
Profile Joined May 2009
Lithuania322 Posts
December 10 2010 16:52 GMT
#208
On December 11 2010 01:19 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
I think you're probably a boring person if all you listen to is metal variances.


Man, metal has so many subgenre's it makes absolutely no sense to make such a statement. And it makes even less sense if you do it after you list metal bands and it's basically a list of "most famous metal bands".
Play more Quake.
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 16:59:54
December 10 2010 16:55 GMT
#209
Sub genres? A slight variation of the prescribed metal sound doesn't create a new sub genre. Death Slam Core? Really? No that's just dumb. The Beatles wrote an absurdly wide variety of songs, but they're just rock. Rock is rock, metal is metal. Calling each band a different genre doesn't justify your taste.

+ Show Spoiler +





Same band. Same genre.

apm66
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada943 Posts
December 10 2010 16:56 GMT
#210
On December 11 2010 01:52 son1dow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 01:19 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
I think you're probably a boring person if all you listen to is metal variances.


Man, metal has so many subgenre's it makes absolutely no sense to make such a statement. And it makes even less sense if you do it after you list metal bands and it's basically a list of "most famous metal bands".


and metal is more vast than anyone could have thought.

mapofmetal.com
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Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States659 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 16:58:31
December 10 2010 16:56 GMT
#211
There is no such thing as a bad genre.
Bad music? Possibly.
But every genre has its fans, and if it has fans it's certainly not bad. Everyone has different tastes, obviously. But just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean it's bad. Obviously.

As for hip hop and rap becoming mainstream, it's just a phase. It'll pass in 20 years tops I'm sure; not that it matters. People listen to what they like, you don't need to listen to it if you don't enjoy it. If you really hate it just ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist.. or turn up the volume of your own music to feel superior. ^_^
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 16:58:52
December 10 2010 16:58 GMT
#212
On December 10 2010 16:35 Swede wrote:
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason I don't typically listen to metal is because good metal bands are few and far between. Most could be summed up in two words: double kick (from the eyes of a man who plays drums). Metal bands just never seem to be very creative. I guess that's what happens when you enter a genre that is centered largely around a certain image rather than actual musicianship (same goes for rap/hip-hop).


Yea.
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.onlinedrummer.com/drummer.php?BeatId=485





So boring. I'd add CoB but they've been letting me down ever since (including) Hate Crew.

I do, however, recommend 'Die Apokalyptischen Reiter', Finntroll... and the ever so awesome Apocalyptica for some of the finest niche metal bands in the world.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8184 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 17:05:36
December 10 2010 17:00 GMT
#213
On December 10 2010 21:41 Panoptic wrote:
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On December 10 2010 21:35 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I don't and nobody does around me.

Classical musicians most of the time consider rap as basically non-music with, on top of that, a very suspect ideological background (individualist egoistic agressive mysogynist subculture is not sexy and absolutely not subversive imo)


Couldn't you say that all kinds of musical subcultures are ideologically suspect? I wouldn't find it far fetched to say that pretty much all bands/musicians can be labelled as somewhat individualistic or egotistical. Pop music with girls running around naked is ideologically suspect. Metal culture is just as, if not more aggressive than hip-hop. Even classical music culture could be labelled negatively as elitist and backwards if you want.

I would agree with you for metal and pop music. They don't worth better than hip hop imo.

Classical music is not elitist in itself. I have a chamber music festival running in one of the most rural region of France where basically nobody has access to culture and people love it. Classical music is too often elitist in the form it takes, but that is not intrinseque to the music; you could say the same about every art which is not marketed mass entertainement and recquires any kind of effort.

Now Boulez or Ligeti are way less backward than Michael Jackson or Britney Spears in terms of music composition (Britney Spears doesn't bring anything at all, her music is 4/4 tonal crap subdominant-dominant-tonic with the simplest structure, while Boulez or Ligeti do).

The only musics today which I find deserve respect are Jazz, Classical music in general, some Rock and local music which have not been perverted by commercial western crap. I find everything else being worthless entertainement.

That's extreme, but that's also the way I am.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
December 10 2010 17:05 GMT
#214
there are hundreds of other genres that deserves more love than they get, than metal. As far as i am concerned metal is shit popular these days
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Tnerb
Profile Joined May 2010
United States141 Posts
December 10 2010 17:21 GMT
#215
Rap is popular because it is what is "cool" and the vast majority of people don't actually think for themselves, instead they look to authority figures to tell them what is or isn't "cool". So if the various media outlets (MTV, ect) tell them that rap is good and that "cool" people like rap then they will automatically decide that they "like" rap.

Proto_Protoss
Profile Joined September 2010
United States495 Posts
December 10 2010 17:23 GMT
#216
Who the hell is everyone?
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in getting up everytime we do." - Confucius
-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
December 10 2010 17:30 GMT
#217
EVERYONE bro.

Fucking ALL of them.
powered by coffee, driven by hate.
Rawenkeke
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 17:32:35
December 10 2010 17:32 GMT
#218
On December 10 2010 18:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote:
ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it.

let me sum up the content of some I heard recently:
1) strained family relationships
2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto
3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships
4) love
5) the future of society (sci-fi themes)

maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump



Kinda sad both of you forgot the most important part; Saying the N word everyother lyric... True but sad.
BcGladiator
Profile Joined July 2010
United States58 Posts
December 10 2010 17:34 GMT
#219
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 10 2010 16:00 LaLLsc2 wrote:
I enjoy both...



and



A man after my own heart, two fucking awesome songs. I don't care about genre, all I care about is what I like and what sounds good to me. I listen to bands like RHCP, and Radiohead, older music like the Cars, Boston, Led Zeppelin (obviously), and popular music / rap like Kid Cudi and Eminem. Obviously I listen to a ton more bands in each of these genres, plus different genres altogether. Point being, I listen to everything that I like (it just so happens that I don't like artists like Lady Gaga haha)
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 17:43:23
December 10 2010 17:42 GMT
#220
On December 11 2010 02:32 Rawenkeke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 18:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote:
ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it.

let me sum up the content of some I heard recently:
1) strained family relationships
2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto
3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships
4) love
5) the future of society (sci-fi themes)

maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump



Kinda sad both of you forgot the most important part; Saying the N word everyother lyric... True but sad.

youre an idiot. theres already so many arguments and examples shown in the past 10 pages of this thread (which you chose to ignore) saying why rap/hip hop isn't as bad as shallow people like you think it is, so Ill just leave it at "youre an idiot"
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