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PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
December 10 2010 17:51 GMT
#221
i love both. but metal will always > rap
Guilford
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia290 Posts
December 10 2010 17:53 GMT
#222
I personally have never found hip hop/rap attractive. I also dislike lot of mainstream pop too. They does not tick with my mind as much as symphonic metal and classic which i like. It does not have the huge, encompassing atmosphere covering my mind. I like music which stretch my imagination and tickle my mind where I can hear the music and at the same time see the picture engraved by the melody and lyrics.
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stratman
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 17:53:58
December 10 2010 17:53 GMT
#223
To me, metal is just kids from the suburbs being loud and angry. OP called rap 'just talking into a microphone'. IMO that's much better than just screaming into a microphone.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 10 2010 17:55 GMT
#224
On December 11 2010 02:32 Rawenkeke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 18:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote:
ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it.

let me sum up the content of some I heard recently:
1) strained family relationships
2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto
3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships
4) love
5) the future of society (sci-fi themes)

maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump



Kinda sad both of you forgot the most important part; Saying the N word everyother lyric... True but sad.

Easy772
Profile Joined May 2010
374 Posts
December 10 2010 17:56 GMT
#225
Rap was just the "In" thing for the 90's and early-mid 2000's. Rappers have no credibility street or otherwise so most real hip-hop heads have gone underground or local for their music. Most kids nowadays kids are into anything that the music industry puts their stamp on, Pop. Metal and Hard Rock seems to coming back hard with kids today I see lots of new school thrasher type kids where I'm from in the bay area who used to dress the way we did in the late 80's, but still most kids are into that nut-hugger, bright colors, nerd glasses, urban quasi hip-hop look and pop music.
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ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
December 10 2010 18:00 GMT
#226
I used to listen to metal but I just can't do it anymore. It just sounds like angry people trying really hard to be "hard". Maybe I'm just too mellow now or something though I still pop in some of the older Rammstein stuff when I'm pissed. Hip hop can suit a larger variety of moods and its good for just cruising on the highway or lounging around at home.

WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
December 10 2010 18:00 GMT
#227
hip hop/rap is really loud and most of the time is catchy so i think thats why its more popular than the other genres right now, although isnt country music the most popular at least in the us?
alurlol
Profile Joined October 2010
England197 Posts
December 10 2010 18:01 GMT
#228
I have no idea why people even try to compare them, they're both COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I personally enjoy listening to both and plenty of other genres of music, and I don't understand why some people will flat out refuse to try something new because "i don't listen to that genre" wat.

The only bad music out there is the overly auto-tuned one-song "hit" garbage that is being constantly shitted out by the mainstream record companies, where have the likes of Interpol with TotBL gone?

PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 18:06:26
December 10 2010 18:03 GMT
#229
I just got tired of metal, there are no metal bands that can write decent lyrics, you show me one and I'll start listening. I appreciate lyrics way more than anything else in a song, and metal fails horribly at that.

Hiphop is perfect for my lyrical fetish =)

to

"ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it."

Wow, you listen to awful rap then hahah, don't listen to the radio stuff by the way.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
December 10 2010 18:11 GMT
#230
there's a lot of really good music when it comes to metal but the lyrics are usually about going on some viking crusade or some dark weird shit so it's not as touching as a good eminem song which you can relate to or a nice upbeat/funky song which puts you in a good mood. i like metal but it's simply not satisfying enough to listen to it every day/for longer periods. whenveer i listen to it is when i sit alone in front of my computer while drinking some beers and i just feel pissed/emo. i get tired of metal much faster than rap.
Raskit
Profile Joined July 2009
579 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 18:19:49
December 10 2010 18:17 GMT
#231
On December 11 2010 01:49 Dystisis wrote:
In fact, that is one of the reasons why I generally don't care that much for rap. It is almost exclusively in standard 4/4, little syncopation, etc. I am sure someone could dig up an exception or two, I am speaking generalities here.

Assessing hip-hop music by its beats is clearly missing the point and purpose of the genre. The lyrics and voice are 95% of a hip-hop track. The voice is the beat. You may as well criticise the font used by a poet. Maybe go listen to the various instrumental genres derived from or that use a mix of hip-hop, if you want to be a fancy pants an assess track construction.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
December 10 2010 18:18 GMT
#232
On December 11 2010 03:17 Raskit wrote:
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On December 11 2010 01:49 Dystisis wrote:
In fact, that is one of the reasons why I generally don't care that much for rap. It is almost exclusively in standard 4/4, little syncopation, etc. I am sure someone could dig up an exception or two, I am speaking generalities here.

Assessing hip-hop music by its beats is clearly missing the point and purpose of the genre. The lyrics and voice are 95% of a hip-hop track. The voice is the beat. You may as well criticised the font used by a poet. Maybe go listen to the various instrumental genres derived from or that use a mix of hip-hop, if you want to be a fancy pants an assess track construction.


"You may as well criticised the font used by a poet."

This made me laugh hard, thank you.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
son1dow
Profile Joined May 2009
Lithuania322 Posts
December 10 2010 18:18 GMT
#233
On December 11 2010 01:55 Lexpar wrote:
Sub genres? A slight variation of the prescribed metal sound doesn't create a new sub genre. Death Slam Core? Really? No that's just dumb. The Beatles wrote an absurdly wide variety of songs, but they're just rock. Rock is rock, metal is metal. Calling each band a different genre doesn't justify your taste.



How much have you listened to metal, really? These "dumb" variations have very different instruments, very different tones and just sound flat out different, not to mention they're mixed with different genres at all; you sound like you're not qualified to judge that.
Play more Quake.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
December 10 2010 18:21 GMT
#234
there is already a heavy metal thread on TL, it kicks ass

regarding rap, i think the gangster rap days are dying out (thank God!), and now its all about the hyphy shit (ecstacy, party, etc), but I think that will die off as well
jaedong imba
Raskit
Profile Joined July 2009
579 Posts
December 10 2010 18:23 GMT
#235
On December 11 2010 03:18 PanN wrote:
"You may as well criticised the font used by a poet."

This made me laugh hard, thank you.


Not sure, if laughing with or at >_> or my spelling mistake LOL.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
December 10 2010 18:24 GMT
#236
On December 11 2010 03:23 Raskit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2010 03:18 PanN wrote:
"You may as well criticised the font used by a poet."

This made me laugh hard, thank you.


Not sure, if laughing with or at >_> or my spelling mistake LOL.


With man, im not gonna make fun of you for misspelling a word.

<3
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
December 10 2010 18:27 GMT
#237
The thing is. Why do people even like music? Most people only listen to certain types of music because of their past experiences or dreams. Doesn't matter what you say is popular and ask why. It does not make you more "rebellious" to like metal music. It does not make you cooler to like hiphop/rap. Everytime i read one of these threads its just people being overly protective of 1type of music and incredibly close minded.
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 18:39:06
December 10 2010 18:27 GMT
#238
These discussions tend to just end up degenerating into the same cookie cutter arguments and musical ignorance and elitism you always see...

"Music from Europe is better than music in the US" (Or vice versa)
"Mainstream music is crap."
"You just haven't listened to a good example of (insert genre). Go listen to (insert obscure artist who hardly represents the genre)
"Old music is better than the crap they're releasing today."
"Listeners of X are (insert stereotype here)"
"This music takes more skill than that." (Ignoring the fact that the greatest songs are often the simplest)
"I'm more qualified than most others to speak on the issue because I listen to both genres. (Proceed to name a handful of obscure artists from each genre that pop up on your Google search, but you never actually listen to.)

Simply put, the reason hip hop is more popular than metal is because more people prefer to listen to it. More people can relate with the culture, artists and lyrics. It's not about diversity, skill or complexity. It's about being able to reach people in their comfort zone.
Raskit
Profile Joined July 2009
579 Posts
December 10 2010 18:30 GMT
#239
On December 11 2010 03:24 PanN wrote:

With man, im not gonna make fun of you for misspelling a word.

<3

<3 LOL. I didn't see you posted about lyrics above. You know how some people get when you mix the word poet with hip-hop. Thought you were one of 'them'.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
December 10 2010 18:31 GMT
#240
Current rap/hip hop is terrible, just like most genres of music these days. Get off my lawn.
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