EPTWhy does everyone love hip hop/rap now? - Page 35
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HansMoleman
United States343 Posts
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Liveon
Netherlands1083 Posts
anyway, I like metal, quite a bit. Different sorts of music take different kinds of skill. I think the music Muse makes is good, since there's a lot of variation and it's very technically. There's also very simple music (Alice in Videoland, Ashbury Heights (they're so awesome)), but the songs can be very addictive and cool to listen to. I don't really think the complexity of music is what you can use to judge them, it's just a matter of opinion. I like Symphonic metal, others like black metal, others like hiphop. I hate popular music and overall music where black people are singing. I also hate music sung in Dutch. But there're other people who like that, I don't know why, but I don't really care either. I let people listen to music I like and if they think it's awesome, that's nice. Most people don't like my style of music, I don't have a clue why, but that's their problem, not mine  Make music, not (flame)war ^^ | ||
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njnick
United States176 Posts
On February 01 2011 17:50 TeWy wrote: There's nothing more pathetic than nerds living in good area and listening to gangster rap. Just saying. So what music I am allowed to listen that gives me cool points then. This is like saying I cannot enjoy religious music because I am an atheist. I hope you learn that people from all walks of life can relate and empathize with people in worse situation than themselves. What about nerdy kids who moved out of the projects and still listen to gangster rap? Are they allowed to listen? Personally, I like song from all genres from, just example: Knaan people like me and Rise Against - Hero Of War | ||
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couches
618 Posts
On February 01 2011 17:50 TeWy wrote: Rich suburban white kids feel like they need to rebel from their parents or their mundane lives. Rap and metal or any extreme genre of music give them those rebellious feelings. A goth kid in 1996 wearing fishnet stockings, a drapey black, cut-up t-shirt and combat boots listening to nin or marylin manson is in the same boat. Doesn't matter if the music is made by, or for black or white people as long as it's rebellious.There's nothing more pathetic than nerds living in good area and listening to gangster rap. Just saying. | ||
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njnick
United States176 Posts
On February 02 2011 00:55 couches wrote: Rich suburban white kids feel like they need to rebel from their parents or their mundane lives. Rap and metal or any extreme genre of music give them those rebellious feelings. A goth kid in 1996 wearing fishnet stockings, a drapey black, cut-up t-shirt and combat boots listening to nin or marylin manson is in the same boat. Doesn't matter if the music is made by, or for black or white people as long as it's rebellious. So you’re saying a well off person only enjoys gangster rap to rebel against their parents. What about people who are well off and started to listen to gangster rap in their thirties. Are they trying to rebel? Also how do these people choose between the “emo” music and the gangster rap music? Considering that the ONLY reason these people listen is too rebel, than they should listen to both right right… | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
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BentoBox
Canada303 Posts
Popular music of all genres have always had bad connotations with the ''purists'' out there. It doesn't matter if you listen to hip-hop/metal/country. I can name a different artist for every genre that appears on TV on the daily and do their best at defaming the image of the genre as a whole. Fuck rap, its all about money and bitches. Fuck metal, its all cacophonies, puking into mics, and artists with unkempt hyegiene. Fuck blues and their banters over the most trivial aspects of their lives. So on and so forth. And then you'll have the posters on the forums agreeing with either party while posting YT links of what they believe better represents a certain genre. We could all just agree that most mainstream music is trash and stop obsessing over such trivial debates. | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
If anything, you should be happy that the bandwagonners aren't listening to your favorite genre of music nor should you be trying to convince them to listen to your favorite genre. One, they enjoy what they want, even if it's absolute cow shit in your view. Second, do you want those people showing up at your concerts? I certainly don't want 14 year old Bieber maniacs showing up at the Flesh Consumed show because someone told them that this metal music is supposed to be good. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On January 28 2011 15:19 wwer wrote: I honestly think i can understand kinda what it felt like when people found out Jimmy Hendrix died. My dad said finding out was like finding out the person who just threw up on your shoes drunk got into a car wreck. everyone knew it was going to happen, but no one wanted it. Hendrix was a special case. and if you want to complain about a popular song ect that takes absolutely no technical skill complain about the beatles. some of those songs take no effort at all. but that doesn't mean they aren't good songs. for instance: the least talented band ever that people have heard of: 3Oh!3. make great music, but they are possibly the worst performers ever. this is what happens when composers perform. | ||
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prodiG
Canada2016 Posts
On February 02 2011 02:10 LoLAdriankat wrote: Taste in music is subjective anyway. There's no right or wrong when it comes to music (the whole classification, not just western music). If anything, you should be happy that the bandwagonners aren't listening to your favorite genre of music nor should you be trying to convince them to listen to your favorite genre. One, they enjoy what they want, even if it's absolute cow shit in your view. Second, do you want those people showing up at your concerts? I certainly don't want 14 year old Bieber maniacs showing up at the Flesh Consumed show because someone told them that this metal music is supposed to be good. I've been kicked out of shows for starting mosh pits when they let minors in. How the fuck was I supposed to know? >: O At any rate, people look for different things in their music. For some people it's just a simple rhythm with a good beat, for some people they like music where there's so much different shit going on your mind melts + Show Spoiler [like this] + | ||
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LunarC
United States1186 Posts
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VeNoM HaZ Skill
United States1528 Posts
On February 02 2011 02:04 BentoBox wrote: What I'm sure has been said many times: Popular music of all genres have always had bad connotations with the ''purists'' out there. It doesn't matter if you listen to hip-hop/metal/country. I can name a different artist for every genre that appears on TV on the daily and do their best at defaming the image of the genre as a whole. Fuck rap, its all about money and bitches. Fuck metal, its all cacophonies, puking into mics, and artists with unkempt hyegiene. Fuck blues and their banters over the most trivial aspects of their lives. So on and so forth. And then you'll have the posters on the forums agreeing with either party while posting YT links of what they believe better represents a certain genre. We could all just agree that most mainstream music is trash and stop obsessing over such trivial debates. No, no, no... Rap is about fucking bitches and getting money... | ||
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InsaniaK
Sweden120 Posts
On December 10 2010 17:01 BenKen wrote: Lots of reasons. a) Metal is only for "rawr so intense!". Maybe I don't feel like kicking someone's ass at the moment. There are very few exceptions to this. For example, I can't put on some metal on a first date or at a party with co-workers. Some girls like metal, but not many. b) Hip Hop fits more situations. There are hip-hop songs to get you pumped up to kick someone's ass, songs to get you laid, songs to get you thinking about life, songs to dance to, songs to celebrate to, songs about getting dumped, songs to talk about how awesome you are etc... Most girls like hip-hop in some form or another. c) It's really not as "high-level" musicianship as it seems, it's just played with a lot of intensity and speed. Nothing wrong with that; I still get in the mood for that on occasion. Lots of country players and christian rock bands are more skilled than most metal guitarists though. d) It used to be next to impossible to sound like Metallica. Now anyone with $200 can get balls-crushing guitar tone. Hell, Nickelback's guitar tone is heavier than the Kill'em all album. Anyone can line up some Marshalls and a drumkit and blast out some metal. On the other hand, most homebrew "beats" people make sounds like shit imo, and that's usually because it's hard to get the gear to sound like Kanye, and yes there is some skill involved in the production. e) It's 30+ years old. Metal is locked into "Heavy guitars + intense vocals + drums + bass" so it's gotten stale after 3 decades. Every iteration of this formula has been done to death by this point. I'm not saying Hip-hop is anything revolutionary right now, but it still occasionally sounds new. Metal hasn't sounded like anything new in a long, long time. Funny thing is, i've listened to shit-tons of metal in the course of my life. I've played in metal bands when I was in high school, and know ever guitar part for the Master of Puppets album by heart. I also know next to nothing about hip-hop compared to your average sorority girl. So you know where my biases are. Still seems obvious to me why one is more popular than the other. I'm not trying to shit on your favorite musical genre though. Who cares what's popular. It's just sounds in the end, listen to what you like. I personally don't listen a lot to metal(more of a hard rock person) but you haven't listened to metal EVER have you? Saying that metal is all "omfgs letz go kill sum pplz RAAAWR" is just ridiculous. Metallica has some really non-intense songs.(One, nothing else matters, unforgiven 1/2/3 and so on) and at c) Yeah, when one genre is extremely small compared to the other there're bound to be bad musicians in the larger. There are a few metal guitar players I don't like a lot but nonetheless I have to agree that it requires HUGE amounts of skill to do what they do.Yngvie Malmsten for example, I don't like his music very much but the speed and accuracy required his extreme. It's like I don't like the early terran cheeses in sc2 but some people perform them perfectly which is extremely hard. | ||
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