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MahatmaSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States192 Posts
December 10 2010 06:40 GMT
#1
Where's all the love for metal? I listen to different kinds, from death metal like Cannibal Corpse to thrash metal like Slayer or old Metallica. I also listen to some nu metal bands like KoRn or System of a Down. I love it & the guys that play metal have far more skill than those who just use computer generated noises and talking into a microphone. Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music?
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Punic
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States152 Posts
December 10 2010 06:40 GMT
#2
i think this started with the beginning of opinions and the decline of robotic personalities.
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 06:45:57
December 10 2010 06:43 GMT
#3
Having more skill doesn't make me like the music more, incomprehensible growling (death metal) coupled with the bad music makes me not like it.

Metal is split into so many genres so its kinda hard to say its not popular, when Nu-Metal is still pretty big these days.
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Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
December 10 2010 06:47 GMT
#4
I'm not a big fan of American metal. European metal is much better. Rap can be good too. It depends on the artist. Most "popular" rap is complete s*** though.

That's me stating an opinion without actually stating an opinion.
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TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 07:04:00
December 10 2010 06:51 GMT
#5
When did you perceive this shift? Even close to a decade ago Metal didn't have shit on Rap. Where is metal so big? I'm pretty sure it suffered a huge decline as the 90's closed.

You also can't generalize rap/hip hop as "talking into a mic" with computer generated tones. The first issue there would be the computer isn't creating anything. Someone has an idea and makes it happen. Computers are a tool, like guitars. Skill may vary.

I was a big fan of KoRn. I'm down with SOAD. I don't necessarily enjoy rap, but I do like hip hop. Goodie Mob, MF Doom, collaborations with Nujabes, Blue Sky Black Death, Cee Lo Green (we're blurring lines here with RnB etc, but you get the point). Listen to some of those groups and tell me there is no skill involved. Your perceptions are clouded by your preferences. I've suffered the same prejudice, but once you open your mind to music instead of genres, I think you'll find the world of music far more interesting.

Edit: It's also worth pointing out that KoRn collaborated with rap artists, and the bass player Fieldy released his solo work, Fieldy's Dreams, which was a rap album. So even KoRn was influenced by rap, and enjoyed the genre.
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 18:51:56
December 10 2010 06:52 GMT
#6
I'd say the biggest thing for me regarding why I don't like metal is the image the word conjures for me:

A slightly overweight kid with no personality and an unfounded political belief structure of "anarchy mannnnnn." Someone who defines himself with the angsty music he listens to simply because he's not deep enough to find any other meaning in life. I'm not saying everyone who listens to metal is like this. I'm saying everyone I've met who listens to metal is.

Also, why are you bashing on "computer generated noises"? Electronic music takes just as much artistic ability as any other kind, in some areas perhaps even more so. It's pure creativity and technical skill.
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[Fin]Vittu
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada507 Posts
December 10 2010 06:54 GMT
#7
On December 10 2010 15:47 Ludrik wrote:
I'm not a big fan of American metal. European metal is much better. Rap can be good too. It depends on the artist. Most "popular" rap is complete s*** though.

That's me stating an opinion without actually stating an opinion.




hellllllllllllll yeah! i find europe does metal a lot better.

Just to name some bands which are timeless to me are bathory, black sabbath, priest, motorhead, witchfinder general and electric wizard. its just so hard to find something like that in america.
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
December 10 2010 06:56 GMT
#8
Taste in music is one of the most subjective things in the world. It probably became popular because it's easy to dance to.
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Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
December 10 2010 06:56 GMT
#9
Computer generated noises? I've got two words for you.

The Roots.
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Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
December 10 2010 06:57 GMT
#10
On December 10 2010 15:40 MahatmaSC2 wrote:
Where's all the love for metal? I listen to different kinds, from death metal like Cannibal Corpse to thrash metal like Slayer or old Metallica. I also listen to some nu metal bands like KoRn or System of a Down. I love it & the guys that play metal have far more skill than those who just use computer generated noises and talking into a microphone. Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music?


Generally when your at a party people do not like to listen to somebody vomiting into a microphone, and with a band name like Cannibal Corpse. Hip/hop is personable in the sense you can play in public and not get the weirdest lookes in the world, plus girls generally aren't into the whole like death metal, mathcore, stuff. Post-hardcore maybe... like some underoath but You can party to hip/hop is generally a good reason to start off with
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LaLLsc2
Profile Joined September 2010
United States502 Posts
December 10 2010 07:00 GMT
#11
I enjoy both...



and

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PUPATREE
Profile Joined August 2009
340 Posts
December 10 2010 07:01 GMT
#12
The dumb are mostly intrigued by the drum.

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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 10 2010 07:03 GMT
#13
Rock jazz and blues
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Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States694 Posts
December 10 2010 07:07 GMT
#14
Classic rock and metal used to be the only things I listened to during my high school and early college years, but after a while I just grew tired of hearing constant guitar solos. ATM I'm enjoying Trance and Rap a lot more than rock.
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 07:10:37
December 10 2010 07:09 GMT
#15
Don't go hating on music just because metal isn't super popular. Embrace it all. You'd probably freak out listening to my playlist just cause it's got just about everything on there. Starting from roots, punk, metal, classic rock, screamo, alternative, rap, electronic/dubstep, even some pop songs sprinkled in there. I think you might just not like some select guys (Kanye?), but I'm pretty sure he can sing as well as sound like a robot.

Music's all about popular demand, and nowadays girls want sexy songs they can grind/slowgrind to (I guess guys want that too :D) Singing about maggots and killing people doesn't appeal to them, so not as popular, and it's not as radio appropriate. Remember, it's not about being an extremely good musician, it's about making something that inspires emotion (good for me, can romance girls with I'm yours).

btw, system of a down rocks and I'm psyched that they're playing again.

EDIT:

On December 10 2010 16:01 PUPATREE wrote:
The dumb are mostly intrigued by the drum.



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Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
December 10 2010 07:09 GMT
#16
On December 10 2010 15:40 MahatmaSC2 wrote:
Where's all the love for metal? I listen to different kinds, from death metal like Cannibal Corpse to thrash metal like Slayer or old Metallica. I also listen to some nu metal bands like KoRn or System of a Down. I love it & the guys that play metal have far more skill than those who just use computer generated noises and talking into a microphone. Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music?

Well, just think of Hiphop not as music but as a form of money-making. Rappers make money, girls are attracted to money, boys are attracted to girls - bingo, you got yourself a subculture!

Seriously though, some hiphop is actually good. Deep lyrics, nice samples. Yea, many of them can't play an instrument, but instead they think of witty lyrics (German rapper Curse comes to my mind), which is where Cannibal Corpse, for example, is lacking. CC are a group of people with high technical skill, but it's not a pleasing kind of music. Neither is gangsta rap, but that's beside the point.

I too find many of the popular (50 cent, Jay-Z, can't remember too many names because shitty rappers don't really deserve a place in my memory) rappers to be very, well, shitty composers and MANY of the people who listen to that shit are very obnoxious little idiots, but maybe, just maybe, some fine day they will turn out to be productive members of society instead of annoying everyone on the street and public transportation to stroke their pitiful egos.

One can hope.
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
December 10 2010 07:10 GMT
#17
Where I'm from metal died in the early 90's thanks to grunge and rap music. I hear it from time to time, but not from the younger crowd.

As far as everyone being into rap/hiphop nowadays... every generation wants music they can call their own, something that is as different from what their parents listen to as possible. Rap is to this generation what Rock and Roll was in the 50's. Adults find themselves scratching their heads and thinking "how can they listen to this crap?"
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nimrodel
Profile Joined October 2009
9 Posts
December 10 2010 07:13 GMT
#18
because rap embodies the values of ego, greed, and vanity - exactly what everything has been reduced to in our times

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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 10 2010 07:13 GMT
#19
On December 10 2010 16:10 e4e5nf3 wrote:
Where I'm from metal died in the early 90's thanks to grunge and rap music. I hear it from time to time, but not from the younger crowd.

As far as everyone being into rap/hiphop nowadays... every generation wants music they can call their own, something that is as different from what their parents listen to as possible. Rap is to this generation what Rock and Roll was in the 50's. Adults find themselves scratching their heads and thinking "how can they listen to this crap?"

And of course, there are the oddities which can live with the generation gap! I've seen some grannies grooving to this


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pfods
Profile Joined September 2010
United States895 Posts
December 10 2010 07:14 GMT
#20
On December 10 2010 15:57 Moonling wrote:
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On December 10 2010 15:40 MahatmaSC2 wrote:
Where's all the love for metal? I listen to different kinds, from death metal like Cannibal Corpse to thrash metal like Slayer or old Metallica. I also listen to some nu metal bands like KoRn or System of a Down. I love it & the guys that play metal have far more skill than those who just use computer generated noises and talking into a microphone. Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music?


Generally when your at a party people do not like to listen to somebody vomiting into a microphone, and with a band name like Cannibal Corpse. Hip/hop is personable in the sense you can play in public and not get the weirdest lookes in the world, plus girls generally aren't into the whole like death metal, mathcore, stuff. Post-hardcore maybe... like some underoath but You can party to hip/hop is generally a good reason to start off with



Girls who aren't into death metal aren't worth knowing or associating with.
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