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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
December 10 2010 07:40 GMT
#41
To me, if you aren't talking about classical, you are still basically splitting hairs.
This is not to say I don't listen enjoy rap and metal myself at times.
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
December 10 2010 07:43 GMT
#42
Once you're down and out and there isn't much you can do about the situation - that's when hiphop comes to you. It doesn't judge you, it just wants to have fun. No matter who you are. Therefor hiphop > whatever else
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Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 07:49:50
December 10 2010 07:47 GMT
#43
On December 10 2010 16:14 pfods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 15:57 Moonling wrote:
On December 10 2010 15:40 MahatmaSC2 wrote:
Where's all the love for metal? I listen to different kinds, from death metal like Cannibal Corpse to thrash metal like Slayer or old Metallica. I also listen to some nu metal bands like KoRn or System of a Down. I love it & the guys that play metal have far more skill than those who just use computer generated noises and talking into a microphone. Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music?


Generally when your at a party people do not like to listen to somebody vomiting into a microphone, and with a band name like Cannibal Corpse. Hip/hop is personable in the sense you can play in public and not get the weirdest lookes in the world, plus girls generally aren't into the whole like death metal, mathcore, stuff. Post-hardcore maybe... like some underoath but You can party to hip/hop is generally a good reason to start off with



Girls who aren't into death metal aren't worth knowing or associating with.


Lol okay buddy, I'm not sure what kind of girls your in to.

Also just because you know girls that listen to metal doesn't mean there attractive in ANY way,

Also, no people don't listen to rap just because you can dance to it yea thats a good reason but also because its main stream its what the "kids" listen to everyone wants to be like everyone else this is so true in high school where conformity and popularity are at its finest
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10801 Posts
December 10 2010 07:48 GMT
#44
I feel like Hip Hop/Rap was M U C H bigger in the early 2000's?
Right now it seems to be all about sing a song writer and easy listening rock.


I love hardrock/punk and so on, but i wouldn't shed a tear if death/black whatever growling thing that calls itself music would never have been invented.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
December 10 2010 07:53 GMT
#45
On December 10 2010 16:48 Velr wrote:
I love hardrock/punk and so on, but i wouldn't shed a tear if death/black whatever growling thing that calls itself music would never have been invented.


this. thank you. all that growling stuff makes me wanna puke. but everyone is entitled to their own opinions and tastes in music, and i'm sure people who like these kind of metal has had some sort of influence early on in their lives that led them to like it
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Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 07:54:54
December 10 2010 07:53 GMT
#46
I would be more worried about the declining quality of music these days, although I dislike rap/hip hop, I can still say it used to be better 10 years ago than it is now. The problem is that it is getting really easy to make your own crappy music and people with not talent whatsoever (not just rap/hip hop) decide they would be ideal people to make their own amazing music. Children these days get impressed by anything, especially if they see a hot guy with women all over him and bright lights, etc. and basing it on nothing to do with what they sound like, or their lyrical content, they decide it is all of a sudden great music. Even Justin Biber makes good music compared to some other stuff, sure, it's kinda gay hearing that voice from a guy, but he has a good voice and somewhat thought up lyrics.

I'm also going to pull a huge douche move here and say Death metal(or anything with unintelligible growling, constant screaming) is to music as a BA in something retarded (language, religion, etc) is to an education.

Also, most of the population is sheep.
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Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
December 10 2010 08:00 GMT
#47
Would be nice if you edited your OP to tell about the title?
Around me rap and hip hop is less loved than ever..



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(First fav band from 5th grade and last one too.)
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BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
December 10 2010 08:01 GMT
#48
Lorken i kinda agree with you. What we're seeing these days is the revitalization of "pop music" into our music culture, but in a more sneaky way. The general crowd likes catchy tunes etc
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BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
December 10 2010 08:01 GMT
#49
On December 10 2010 15:40 MahatmaSC2 wrote: Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music?


Lots of reasons.

a) Metal is only for "rawr so intense!". Maybe I don't feel like kicking someone's ass at the moment. There are very few exceptions to this. For example, I can't put on some metal on a first date or at a party with co-workers. Some girls like metal, but not many.

b) Hip Hop fits more situations. There are hip-hop songs to get you pumped up to kick someone's ass, songs to get you laid, songs to get you thinking about life, songs to dance to, songs to celebrate to, songs about getting dumped, songs to talk about how awesome you are etc... Most girls like hip-hop in some form or another.

c) It's really not as "high-level" musicianship as it seems, it's just played with a lot of intensity and speed. Nothing wrong with that; I still get in the mood for that on occasion. Lots of country players and christian rock bands are more skilled than most metal guitarists though.

d) It used to be next to impossible to sound like Metallica. Now anyone with $200 can get balls-crushing guitar tone. Hell, Nickelback's guitar tone is heavier than the Kill'em all album. Anyone can line up some Marshalls and a drumkit and blast out some metal. On the other hand, most homebrew "beats" people make sounds like shit imo, and that's usually because it's hard to get the gear to sound like Kanye, and yes there is some skill involved in the production.

e) It's 30+ years old. Metal is locked into "Heavy guitars + intense vocals + drums + bass" so it's gotten stale after 3 decades. Every iteration of this formula has been done to death by this point. I'm not saying Hip-hop is anything revolutionary right now, but it still occasionally sounds new. Metal hasn't sounded like anything new in a long, long time.

Funny thing is, i've listened to shit-tons of metal in the course of my life. I've played in metal bands when I was in high school, and know ever guitar part for the Master of Puppets album by heart. I also know next to nothing about hip-hop compared to your average sorority girl. So you know where my biases are. Still seems obvious to me why one is more popular than the other.

I'm not trying to shit on your favorite musical genre though. Who cares what's popular. It's just sounds in the end, listen to what you like.
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guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
December 10 2010 08:02 GMT
#50
so just bieber has good music but death metal is the equivalent to getting a BA in language or religion?

hahaha
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RoarMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada745 Posts
December 10 2010 08:04 GMT
#51
On December 10 2010 16:48 Velr wrote:
I feel like Hip Hop/Rap was M U C H bigger in the early 2000's?
Right now it seems to be all about sing a song writer and easy listening rock.


I love hardrock/punk and so on, but i wouldn't shed a tear if death/black whatever growling thing that calls itself music would never have been invented.

I agree.

I think what we're seeing now is just pop music becoming really big, and by pop music I mean anything really hyped and being sold by the big music labels.

Atleast I feel that way living in Canada.

I think it really depends on where you are and who you're around tbh, there's a large variety of music out there, although the new stuff maybe a lot of pop, dance, hip hop and such people still love some Metallica imo :D
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LaLLsc2
Profile Joined September 2010
United States502 Posts
December 10 2010 08:05 GMT
#52
On December 10 2010 16:01 PUPATREE wrote:
The dumb are mostly intrigued by the drum.


Please elaborate ...
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TheGreatWhiteHope_
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
December 10 2010 08:05 GMT
#53
Because I like listening to music that doesn't make me want to kill myself.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
December 10 2010 08:10 GMT
#54
I like to be able to think while I'm listening to music.
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
December 10 2010 08:12 GMT
#55
I would be more worried about the declining quality of music these days,


Meh. People who think that the quality of music is declining aren't putting the effort in. I could agree that there is LESS good music (percentage-wise), but not that good music has gotten worse (if anything it's gotten better).
guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
December 10 2010 08:13 GMT
#56
interesting study here...

"On balance, however, Walker & Kreiner (2006) found in their study of male and female college students that participants who expressed a preference for intense rebellious music (defined as alternative, rock, and heavy metal) tended to have higher scores on an intelligence test, especially those processes involving abstraction."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCR/is_1_42/ai_n25124428/pg_2/?tag=content;col1
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Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 08:23:30
December 10 2010 08:16 GMT
#57
More people like Pabst Blue Ribbon than good wines. McDonalds gets more traffic than the fine family owned Italian restaurant down the street. Most people like easily digestable music that doesn't take any thinking, patience, or reflection to enjoy. It's pretty simple really. (not saying metal is always in the latter category, as it is often not).

On December 10 2010 17:01 BenKen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 15:40 MahatmaSC2 wrote: Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music?



e) It's 30+ years old. Metal is locked into "Heavy guitars + intense vocals + drums + bass" so it's gotten stale after 3 decades. Every iteration of this formula has been done to death by this point. I'm not saying Hip-hop is anything revolutionary right now, but it still occasionally sounds new. Metal hasn't sounded like anything new in a long, long time.




That's just retarded. Most metal sucks, but I give the genre credit for having way more variety than average. There's just such a vast difference between the metal of 30 years ago and today, a much larger gap than the hip-hop of 30 years ago and today. Even comparing metal bands of the same time period yields, on average, much more variety than practically anything.
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UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
December 10 2010 08:17 GMT
#58
I prefer music that doesn't consist of screaming and worshiping the devil.

Plus listening to hip hop = dancing = girls = fun
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Zhoul
Profile Joined September 2010
5 Posts
December 10 2010 08:19 GMT
#59
I have been listening to mostly metal basicly all my life. Starting out with Black Sabbath into power and thrash metal when I was a bit younger. Then came Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth in my earlie teenage years. Then i discovered Dissection which i pretty much listen to constantly to the day Jon was released from prison, I watched their last live performance before he shot himself.

Of course there was plenty of other bands as well, like Otyg,Graveworm,Watain,Sins for thy beloved and so on. And nowdays the more melodic death metal like Dark Tranquility, Mors Principium Est, Black Dahlia Murder. Also ofcourse The Crown and Catamania.

Really the list just goes on and on..

BUT! Even thought i could prolly go to sleep listening to metal, I just don't like listening to metal when i play competetive gaming for some reason. And since I really don't like pop at all, I tend to listen to rap while playing but not all rap thought. I usually listen to a bit more aggresive rap like Mystikal - Mystikal Fever or such, it has some of the aggression of metal but it fits better as background music when I'm trying to stay calm, some people might like adrenaline but i prefer to stay really really calm while playing.
Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 08:23:57
December 10 2010 08:22 GMT
#60
On December 10 2010 17:13 guN-viCe wrote:
interesting study here...

"On balance, however, Walker & Kreiner (2006) found in their study of male and female college students that participants who expressed a preference for intense rebellious music (defined as alternative, rock, and heavy metal) tended to have higher scores on an intelligence test, especially those processes involving abstraction."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCR/is_1_42/ai_n25124428/pg_2/?tag=content;col1


Intersting study here.....

Heavy Metal Music
"Most research on music use has examined heavy metal music and the people who choose to listen to it. Studies have found that children who listen to heavy metal music are more likely to participate in a number of risky behaviors including drug use, drunk driving, and casual sex. Heavy metal listeners also report more conflicts with authority figures, such as teachers, and are more prone to depressive feelings and suicidal thoughts."

http://www.teenhealthfx.com/answers/Emotional/45520.html

- I'm not saying Metal is bad, just saying the way you tried to prove a point wasn't the best
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