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Keldrath
Profile Joined July 2010
United States449 Posts
December 10 2010 09:26 GMT
#81
i think its mostly just an american thing. Metal is much more popular in the rest of the world. but here its pretty underground.
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positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
December 10 2010 09:27 GMT
#82
ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 09:36:52
December 10 2010 09:34 GMT
#83
On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote:
ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it.

let me sum up the content of some I heard recently:
1) strained family relationships
2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto
3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships
4) love
5) the future of society (sci-fi themes)

maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump
RIP Aaliyah
TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 09:41:22
December 10 2010 09:39 GMT
#84
metal died a while ago for me, it became this new "death metal" or whatever you kids are calling it, its just punk, but you call it metal, a bunch of pre-mature teens screaming into a microphone making no sense, can barely understand them it's not music. There was a good metal period of music though, but it is gone now.

geuss i should do the

Sum up all the metal songs I have heard lately:


My girl left me
I hate my life
Scream
Scream some more
scream so that the music becomes distorted
some shit about love
more inaudible screaming
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positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
December 10 2010 09:40 GMT
#85
On December 10 2010 18:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote:
ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it.

let me sum up the content of some I heard recently:
1) strained family relationships
2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto
3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships
4) love
5) the future of society (sci-fi themes)

maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump


I am complaining about the mainstream hiphop/rap that I heard on the radio. Stop speaking to people in that condescending tone. You are not that much smarter or better than people.
BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 09:47:46
December 10 2010 09:43 GMT
#86
Mainstream metal and rap are just as bad as each other. Both have good lesser known artists though.

Also a lot of rap is worth listening to just for the beats, who cares if they are talking about dicking fat booty bitches or something when it sounds good? Mainstream doesn't really equate to bad lyrics.

I mean look at Kanye West, his new album/'film' is extremely pretentious but he's probably the most mainstream & overrated rapper right now.
555
Profile Joined September 2010
56 Posts
December 10 2010 09:46 GMT
#87
I know of someone who loves metal. I know nothing about this genera, so I don't know if it is death metal or whatever, but there is a lot of screaming and guitars. I, on the other hand, like modern and mainstream hiphop/rap. I love the computer generated sounds and all that. I also really like autotuned voices, I like robotic beeps, but I'm not into pure techno. The funny thing is I cannot listen to my friends music at all, it honestly hurts my ears, and he equally hates my music saying "where's the guitar?" and stuff. I also have another friend that loves country or folk music and can't stand hiphop or metal. Music is a strange thing.

DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 09:49:21
December 10 2010 09:48 GMT
#88
On December 10 2010 18:40 positron. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 18:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote:
ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it.

let me sum up the content of some I heard recently:
1) strained family relationships
2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto
3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships
4) love
5) the future of society (sci-fi themes)

maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump


I am complaining about the mainstream hiphop/rap that I heard on the radio. Stop speaking to people in that condescending tone. You are not that much smarter or better than people.


And your post was clearly condescending toward hip-hop and its fans. How am I supposed to take from that post that you're only taking a dump on a certain portion of hip-hop?

On December 10 2010 18:43 BasedSwag wrote:
Mainstream metal and rap are just as bad as each other. Both have good lesser known artists though.

Also a lot of rap is worth listening to just for the beats, who cares if they are talking about dicking fat booty bitches or something when it sounds good? Mainstream doesn't really equate to bad lyrics.

I mean look at Kanye West, his new album/'film' is extremely pretentious but he's probably the most mainstream & overrated rapper right now.


MBDTF was one of the best hip-hop albums this year

He isn't overrated as a producer. I don't think he's a great rapper but his production is top notch.

I'm trying to strike down the misconception that hip-hop is inherently shallow and that it's an invalid form of artistic expression. Sorry if I offended you, but your post had no context and I'm sure you can see how easily it can be taken the wrong way.

I never said anything about myself or my intelligence or place in society. Why are you being so defensive and weird about it?
RIP Aaliyah
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
December 10 2010 09:49 GMT
#89
I really find its completely preference based.
Hiphop/rap is probably the most well-liked because it is extremely easy for the ear to understand, and lyrics which directly relate to a fantasical life. That's why I hate it so frickin' bad.
I find enjoyment in listening to 2pac, breaking benjamin AND parkway drive. Its really preference imo, and in a sense what you grew up listening to.
bakedace
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States672 Posts
December 10 2010 09:51 GMT
#90
As a white kid who grew up listening to REAL rock and roll (classic), I listen to and love real hip hop. Alot of rappers are not making real music, so your point of view is misconstrued.

Death Metal takes skill and making hip hop doesnt? that's just down right stupid. Screaming non sense is not music.

UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
December 10 2010 09:52 GMT
#91
On December 10 2010 18:43 BasedSwag wrote:
Mainstream metal and rap are just as bad as each other. Both have good lesser known artists though.

Also a lot of rap is worth listening to just for the beats, who cares if they are talking about dicking fat booty bitches or something when it sounds good? Mainstream doesn't really equate to bad lyrics.

I mean look at Kanye West, his new album/'film' is extremely pretentious but he's probably the most mainstream & overrated rapper right now.


Although kanye is extremely overrated and his antics are quite annoying, his new album is amazing.
i be that pretty motherfucker
BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 09:54:40
December 10 2010 09:54 GMT
#92
On December 10 2010 18:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
MBDTF was one of the best hip-hop albums this year

He isn't overrated as a producer. I don't think he's a great rapper but his production is top notch.


I liked the album and agree with you on that, but I think the concept for the album (especially after viewing the "Runaway" film) was extremely pretentious, and undeniably unlike what most would think about when they talk about mainstream rap/hip-hop.
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
December 10 2010 09:55 GMT
#93
Why does bit matter if its popular? Oh my god, not everyone likes the same music! I still like my music even if others don't the same way I don't like men yet women do. Imo women are pretty great I think more women should like women.
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
December 10 2010 09:55 GMT
#94
On December 10 2010 18:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 18:40 positron. wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote:
ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it.

let me sum up the content of some I heard recently:
1) strained family relationships
2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto
3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships
4) love
5) the future of society (sci-fi themes)

maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump


I am complaining about the mainstream hiphop/rap that I heard on the radio. Stop speaking to people in that condescending tone. You are not that much smarter or better than people.


And your post was clearly condescending toward hip-hop and its fans. How am I supposed to take from that post that you're only taking a dump on a certain portion of hip-hop?



Because I said that the hiphop/rap I have heard recently? Did I say that is all that get produced nowadays? It is not my fault some people just jumping to conclusion.
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 09:57:35
December 10 2010 09:56 GMT
#95
Does it really matter why rap is more popular right now?

I think it just has to do with what albums are being released. There haven't been many good metal albums (or rock for that matter) released lately IMO. I think Disturbed was the last one I actually liked and even so, I didn't think it was that great. Their new style isn't really my thing, but I know I'll like it eventually because all of their albums were like that for me. They had to grow on me.

Now, hip hop, has had quite a lot of new artists come into the picture and a couple of new albums. The new Eminem album is actually pretty damn good. I'm not a huge fan of his, but the album he just came out with is excellent. Nicki Minaj ain't that bad either. I haven't heard her new album, but there are some good songs she's in. Kanye is also coming out with some good songs. Monster and Runaway being two of them.

Like I said before, I think it has to do with more hip hop being released now than metal.

Personally, I've been leaning towards more bass heavy music lately. I'm just not in the mood for any rock/metal. I'll throw in some Bullet for My Valentine or A Day to Remember here or there, but that's been quite rare for the past 2 months.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
December 10 2010 09:57 GMT
#96
On December 10 2010 18:51 bakedace wrote:
Death Metal takes skill and making hip hop doesnt? that's just down right stupid. Screaming non sense is not music.



This is an extremely unhealthy attitude to take toward any genre of music, whether it be metal, hip-hop, or anything else. You can't just dismiss things as "not music". It's not an argument, just a refusal to discuss it.
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Mellotron
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States329 Posts
December 10 2010 09:58 GMT
#97
There is a secret to making popular music. All you have to do is make the listener feel good about themselves. Anyone saying otherwise is kidding themselves and living in fantasyland. If you make the listener feel confident and strong, and that they are part of something bigger and better than themselves, you will give them a strong positive emotional reaction which they will then associate with your song or band. Just like religion, human beings attach themselves to things that are larger and more powerful because it is an instinctual survival tool. But you will not hear many people say this about music and "taste" in general, because it diminishes the human desire to see ourselves as magical mystical unique souls whos opinions and tastes originate purely from the most sincere origins. But sadly, we are biologically programmed, and there is no magic. People will choose their favorite of a million different shades of art, but, in the end and under even semi-adept scrutiny, all of those varieties of taste still have underlying fundamental similarities. Genetics hold culture on a very short leash.

As far as musical skill goes, beatmaking and electronica are so easy to make its literally sickening. Yeah, maybe joe blow cant just sit down at a computer and make great electronica or beats, but any midlevel skilled musician can. The hardest skill in music is songwriting. It is the least in supply, and the most difficult skill to obtain. Many many musicians try their entire lives and still never gain even moderate skill in songwriting. Go read any songwriting forum on the internet and youll see. Most people are completely clueless as how to write well or improve, and instead spend most of their time obsessing over instrumental performance (guitar solos etc) or recording/equipment/producing. Thats because those are skills that are easily obtained through blind repetition, or mastery of electronic equipment. Songwriting is by far the most difficult of all, thats why there are so few strong writers, and so many strong performers and producers. Go down to guitar center on any friday and tell me what you see... dozens of great drummers and great guitar players and djs. And yet? Not any great strong songwriters.

There are alot of people in this thread making claims about music that are merely publicly adopted notions that dont really mean anything, and arent necessarily true. The general public has no idea how little they truly understand music. They simply know what they like, and what they like is based on their ego and their emotional/identity/lifestyle desires. So, thats about it.
Starcraft player since 1999
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 10 2010 09:58 GMT
#98
On December 10 2010 18:55 positron. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 18:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:40 positron. wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote:
ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it.

let me sum up the content of some I heard recently:
1) strained family relationships
2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto
3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships
4) love
5) the future of society (sci-fi themes)

maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump


I am complaining about the mainstream hiphop/rap that I heard on the radio. Stop speaking to people in that condescending tone. You are not that much smarter or better than people.


And your post was clearly condescending toward hip-hop and its fans. How am I supposed to take from that post that you're only taking a dump on a certain portion of hip-hop?



Because I said that the hiphop/rap I have heard recently? Did I say that is all that get produced nowadays? It is not my fault some people just jumping to conclusion.


Doesn't the assumption follow that you chose to listen to that versus more insightful and artistic hip-hop? I'm not attacking you, but there are a lot of people that think ALL RAP is like you described and that's the IDEA I'm attacking and not you personally.
RIP Aaliyah
UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
December 10 2010 09:59 GMT
#99
On December 10 2010 18:55 positron. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 18:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:40 positron. wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote:
ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it.

let me sum up the content of some I heard recently:
1) strained family relationships
2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto
3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships
4) love
5) the future of society (sci-fi themes)

maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump


I am complaining about the mainstream hiphop/rap that I heard on the radio. Stop speaking to people in that condescending tone. You are not that much smarter or better than people.


And your post was clearly condescending toward hip-hop and its fans. How am I supposed to take from that post that you're only taking a dump on a certain portion of hip-hop?



Because I said that the hiphop/rap I have heard recently? Did I say that is all that get produced nowadays? It is not my fault some people just jumping to conclusion.


Your post was basically insinuating that hip hop sucks. DH merely called you out on it.
i be that pretty motherfucker
BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
December 10 2010 10:00 GMT
#100
Music discussions like this are always pretty pointless anyway. People listen to what they like, you can't change that. All you can do is introduce them to more things they like.
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