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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 10 2010 10:01 GMT
#101
maybe it's just me... but i think the hip hop songs are getting worse nowadays.
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Keldrath
Profile Joined July 2010
United States449 Posts
December 10 2010 10:01 GMT
#102
On December 10 2010 18:40 positron. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 18:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote:
ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it.

let me sum up the content of some I heard recently:
1) strained family relationships
2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto
3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships
4) love
5) the future of society (sci-fi themes)

maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump


I am complaining about the mainstream hiphop/rap that I heard on the radio. Stop speaking to people in that condescending tone. You are not that much smarter or better than people.


honestly you wont hear much better from mainstream metal you'll hear on the radio either.

theres a big difference between metallicas And Justice for All... or Megadeths Holy Wars and Disturbeds Down with the Sickness, or Linkin Parks Crawling.
If you want peace... prepare for war.
karlmengsk
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada230 Posts
December 10 2010 10:01 GMT
#103
Could it be that some people actually like both? Naw, can't be.
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BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
December 10 2010 10:03 GMT
#104
On December 10 2010 19:01 Keldrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 18:40 positron. wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote:
ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it.

let me sum up the content of some I heard recently:
1) strained family relationships
2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto
3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships
4) love
5) the future of society (sci-fi themes)

maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump


I am complaining about the mainstream hiphop/rap that I heard on the radio. Stop speaking to people in that condescending tone. You are not that much smarter or better than people.


honestly you wont hear much better from mainstream metal you'll hear on the radio either.

theres a big difference between metallicas And Justice for All... or Megadeths Holy Wars and Disturbeds Down with the Sickness, or Linkin Parks Crawling.


All of those bands are extremely mainstream though.
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
December 10 2010 10:04 GMT
#105
On December 10 2010 15:40 MahatmaSC2 wrote:
Where's all the love for metal? I listen to different kinds, from death metal like Cannibal Corpse to thrash metal like Slayer or old Metallica. I also listen to some nu metal bands like KoRn or System of a Down. I love it & the guys that play metal have far more skill than those who just use computer generated noises and talking into a microphone. Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music?


True rap isn't just computer generated sounds and talking into a microphone. Also, rap didn't grow so much more popular than metal and every other kind of music (if you're talking about lil wayne piece of shit, it did. And I need its reason as well). True rap is unique. Just unique. No stolen rhymes, no stolen words, no stolen name, who you are and what you say belongs to you and you only and only few people can really rap:

2Pac
Nas
Big L
Guru (from Gang Starr)

You see, list doesn't consist of too many people. People like Jay Z, 50 cent, lil wayne are just wannabe rappers and that's it.
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Sulli
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada236 Posts
December 10 2010 10:04 GMT
#106
I might be perceived as having shallow taste in music, but I love mainstream/top 40 type of music. It's cool that some folks cultivate their own tastes by listening to obscure artists, but mainstream artists reached their places because they had something to offer.

It's especially true with mainstream hip hop artists. Artists such as Eminem, Drake, Lil' Wayne, etc. aren't simply products of media hype. They are doing what they are doing because they have gigantic personalities, strong opinions, and the skills to communicate their opinions. The same could be said about pop artists such as Katy Perry. One might say pop's all about mixing up catchy tunes, but you have to be ahead of the trend to even know what's catchy in the first place.

No disrespect to technical music and the talent poured into them. However, I feel that music is first and foremost a medium of communication, and the masses latch onto rappers because they're there experimenting with language, playing with words, and communicating themselves through those words.
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
December 10 2010 10:04 GMT
#107
What I meant to say was that there is a lot of good music there, but a lot more crap these days, especially popular stuff. And I wasn't saying Biber is great, he is better than most that is considered good.

Lorken i kinda agree with you.

lol, I should make this my sig
LOUD NOISES!!!
Keldrath
Profile Joined July 2010
United States449 Posts
December 10 2010 10:05 GMT
#108
On December 10 2010 19:03 BasedSwag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 19:01 Keldrath wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:40 positron. wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote:
ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it.

let me sum up the content of some I heard recently:
1) strained family relationships
2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto
3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships
4) love
5) the future of society (sci-fi themes)

maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump


I am complaining about the mainstream hiphop/rap that I heard on the radio. Stop speaking to people in that condescending tone. You are not that much smarter or better than people.


honestly you wont hear much better from mainstream metal you'll hear on the radio either.

theres a big difference between metallicas And Justice for All... or Megadeths Holy Wars and Disturbeds Down with the Sickness, or Linkin Parks Crawling.


All of those bands are extremely mainstream though.


you can see the biggest difference when you listen to the lyrics.
If you want peace... prepare for war.
TheDna
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany577 Posts
December 10 2010 10:05 GMT
#109
On December 10 2010 17:42 d_so wrote:
what i dont get is why people like eminem now. He was good up till about his third cd, or until he started singing. I don't get why everyone likes him now when all he does is yell and sing.


Totally agree.. He is so horrible now. He used to make good music

Also old hiphop used to be so so so super awesome epmd, beatnutz, biz markie, dj honda etc pp.
I think NAS is 100% right hip hop died when he prognosed it..
The new stuff is just very very horrible. Some exceptions like the one guy from outkast still provides some quality stuff, i also like some of the new Kayne West stuff. But pretty much stopped listening to the new hip hop for the last 5+ years
Falcon_NL
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands236 Posts
December 10 2010 10:07 GMT
#110
Hiphop\rap and all that stuff sucks.

CLASSIC MUSIC FOR THE WIN GUISE!
and its a BLACK HOLE !! OH MY GOD BLACK HOOOOLEEE - Tobi Wan
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6638 Posts
December 10 2010 10:07 GMT
#111
The 'hip hop/rap' that so many people listens to nowadays is just pop music, which has always been listened to. There are people who still listen to real metal and real hip hop.
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positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
December 10 2010 10:09 GMT
#112
On December 10 2010 18:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 18:55 positron. wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:40 positron. wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 10 2010 18:27 positron. wrote:
ok let me sum up the content of all the hip hop/rap songs I have heard recently:
1) partying.
2) alcohol
3) sex
4) booty
There are a few exceptions but that is pretty much it.

let me sum up the content of some I heard recently:
1) strained family relationships
2) the entrapment of life in the ghetto
3) egocentric behavior and its affect on relationships
4) love
5) the future of society (sci-fi themes)

maybe you should open your mind and expand outside the mainstream garbage dump


I am complaining about the mainstream hiphop/rap that I heard on the radio. Stop speaking to people in that condescending tone. You are not that much smarter or better than people.


And your post was clearly condescending toward hip-hop and its fans. How am I supposed to take from that post that you're only taking a dump on a certain portion of hip-hop?



Because I said that the hiphop/rap I have heard recently? Did I say that is all that get produced nowadays? It is not my fault some people just jumping to conclusion.


Doesn't the assumption follow that you chose to listen to that versus more insightful and artistic hip-hop? I'm not attacking you, but there are a lot of people that think ALL RAP is like you described and that's the IDEA I'm attacking and not you personally.


No that assumption does not follow. Not trying to get into semantics here but there is a difference between "listen to" and "hear". They play it on the radio, TV so that is what I caught and heard.
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
December 10 2010 11:52 GMT
#113
If it doesn't have these things, I'm OK with it:
Auto tune


You'd be hard pressed to find any musician that doesn't at least use some amount of auto-tune these days. Using auto-tune speeds up the production process saving artists literally thousands of dollars. Why spend 20 takes getting the song perfect when you could do it 3 times, auto-tune and get the same result? Time is money etc. It's not the most pleasant thought, but that's how the industry is evolving I guess. Just be glad that not everyone is doing it live yet.

There is a secret to making popular music. All you have to do is make the listener feel good about themselves. Anyone saying otherwise is kidding themselves and living in fantasyland.


To be honest I think the secret is just accessibility, ie catchy handles. Pop songs are just more intricate versions of the advertisement dittys you hear on TV/the radio. Their message is delivered through their catchiness, not the other way around.
Issor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
December 10 2010 11:54 GMT
#114
I love death metal (real death metal, not shitty excuses for death metal like cannibal corpse)...

I love black metal (fuck it's so good)

I also love hip-hop and oldschool rap. it's good shit. it's all good shit. stop fighting over which shit is gooder.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7290 Posts
December 10 2010 11:58 GMT
#115
grunting metal sounds bad
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 12:01:57
December 10 2010 11:58 GMT
#116
That's because metal is crap and people have had enough of it.
Now rap music is different kind of crap so they listen to it until they realize it's crap too.
I call it the natural flow of crap in the music world.

On December 10 2010 20:58 Sadist wrote:
grunting metal sounds bad


IMO that sounds like the greatest thing ever:
- "Loktar! Swobu!"
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Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
December 10 2010 12:01 GMT
#117
I am one of those weirdos that listens to NO music at all. >_>
Raskit
Profile Joined July 2009
579 Posts
December 10 2010 12:10 GMT
#118
If you think hip-hop/rap is what you hear on the radio or MTV, you need to go do some research. That kinda crap represents the raping and commercial exploitation of a genre for the past 5-10yrs. If you think all rappers do is "talk into a mic" and rap about money, girls, gunz and drugs, you don't understand what hip-hop is and have the most stereotypical negative viewpoint associated with the genre.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
December 10 2010 12:14 GMT
#119
Because although rap is bad, it's not as bad as metal. And there's some good rap, whereas there's no good metal.

I <3 opinions on the internet
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Liveon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands1083 Posts
December 10 2010 12:16 GMT
#120
Why do people see 'metal' as death metal or black metal? That's nonsense.
I love metal, but I only listen symphonic, folk and power metal. Folk metal will be grunted in, but I think it blends good with the music (bands like eluveitie). I hate black and death metal, it's so boring.

I hate rap and hiphop. It's just boring, not enough variations and no melody. I know that that is very generalising, but it's the only hiphop/rap I've heard. Next to that, I don't like black people who sing, it's not because they're black, it's just that I don't like their voices. (I see rap as 'singing' too though).

Metal is quite popular with certain groups, you just don't here it on the radio since people who listen metal don't listen to the radio because there's no metal on the radio.
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