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nastyyy
Profile Joined December 2009
United States262 Posts
December 10 2010 07:15 GMT
#21
Black people got swag.
one time
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
December 10 2010 07:16 GMT
#22
On December 10 2010 16:14 pfods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 15:57 Moonling wrote:
On December 10 2010 15:40 MahatmaSC2 wrote:
Where's all the love for metal? I listen to different kinds, from death metal like Cannibal Corpse to thrash metal like Slayer or old Metallica. I also listen to some nu metal bands like KoRn or System of a Down. I love it & the guys that play metal have far more skill than those who just use computer generated noises and talking into a microphone. Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music?


Generally when your at a party people do not like to listen to somebody vomiting into a microphone, and with a band name like Cannibal Corpse. Hip/hop is personable in the sense you can play in public and not get the weirdest lookes in the world, plus girls generally aren't into the whole like death metal, mathcore, stuff. Post-hardcore maybe... like some underoath but You can party to hip/hop is generally a good reason to start off with



Girls who aren't into death metal aren't worth knowing or associating with.


Alone forever?
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
December 10 2010 07:16 GMT
#23
On December 10 2010 15:56 Headshot wrote:
Computer generated noises? I've got two words for you.

The Roots.


this man knows.
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Meth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada396 Posts
December 10 2010 07:16 GMT
#24
90's Hip Hop please, that is all.

Mainstream music just sucks, and I don't know why the masses fucking enjoy it, I think they just more listen to the beat and when that one, dare I say it, "good" hook goes they love it.

Hip Hop should be how it WAS, but it will never stop evolving and I hope it evolves into something better than what it is, or if the underground just floods the streets with their GOSU SONGS. SPEAK SOME TRUTH.

FUCK IT IM BUYING SOME CDS AND SENDING EVERYONE A GOD DAMN HOLIDAY HIP HOP RECORD
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Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
December 10 2010 07:16 GMT
#25
Different times, different music. I can't stand neither hip hop nor rap but well, maybe the next generations music will be better. I'm sure in 5-10 years someone of the current rap generation will ask "why does everyone love xyz music now?" here.

There are still enough metal and rock fans, so all is not lost.
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 07:21:21
December 10 2010 07:17 GMT
#26
Most true hip hop and rap fans dont love mainstream rap of today, and even the most prominent rappers have outright said that hip hop is dying (Nas amongst others).

The reason death metal isent popular and never will be is that people in general want to listen to happy music, or at least music that makes them happy. This is why rapping about actual social concerns (Public Enemy, early Pac etc) is not popular, and its more about bling this, bling that, hot car, hot bitches etc.

Thats not to say all death metal is sad, cruel or miserable but to the non death metal fan it looks like music for people with severe depressions.

Then you take into the fact that death metal dosent lend itself well if you play it in a club, what kind of reaction would people have? They just need music to dance to, something memorable and uplifting, not something about death, sins and destruction.

I saw this (stupid) reality kind of show, where a bunch of stuck up women stand around in a tv studio by this small booth trying to find a date, like 20 of them, and a guy comes out, then they judge the guy on his looks then on his personality when a video package runs about who he is and what he does.

This particular guy was decent looking (even as a straight male i can admit) and they showed that he was a electrician in real life, none of the women minded, he liked to play sports, again none of the women minded.
Once his presentation video showed he was a drummer in a death metal band, more than half the women hit the "buzzer" meaning they wouldnt date him and only around 6 were left.

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Sisko
Profile Joined May 2010
United States121 Posts
December 10 2010 07:19 GMT
#27
People like different things at different times for different reasons. I used to hate hip hop when I was younger but it grows on you. Most hip hop talks about power fantasies and some boring shit like drugs, booze, and hoes. Those, however, are the filler that every genre is bound to have due to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon's_law

For every good hip hop song there will be nine awful ones, and that's true of all music. If you don't listen to a lot of it, and be sure to avoid confusing popular with good, you surely won't like your brief encounters with it.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 07:21:22
December 10 2010 07:20 GMT
#28
Yeah why don't we just listen to classical music instead? Much better imho.

I try not to judge music a whole lot, since no one is really qualified to do that no matter who they are. Judging the motives behind the creation of the music is ok with me though. Pop music is basically all motivated by profit, but we all knew that already anyway. That being said, comparing someone like [insertrandomhiphoprapperson] to the Romantic greats just makes me chuckle on the inside.

Edit:
On December 10 2010 16:19 Sisko wrote:
For every good hip hop song there will be nine awful ones, and that's true of all music. If you don't listen to a lot of it, and be sure to avoid confusing popular with good, you surely won't like your brief encounters with it.
If there is one thing that people take from this thread let it be this.
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pfods
Profile Joined September 2010
United States895 Posts
December 10 2010 07:22 GMT
#29
On December 10 2010 16:16 Fantistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 16:14 pfods wrote:
On December 10 2010 15:57 Moonling wrote:
On December 10 2010 15:40 MahatmaSC2 wrote:
Where's all the love for metal? I listen to different kinds, from death metal like Cannibal Corpse to thrash metal like Slayer or old Metallica. I also listen to some nu metal bands like KoRn or System of a Down. I love it & the guys that play metal have far more skill than those who just use computer generated noises and talking into a microphone. Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music?


Generally when your at a party people do not like to listen to somebody vomiting into a microphone, and with a band name like Cannibal Corpse. Hip/hop is personable in the sense you can play in public and not get the weirdest lookes in the world, plus girls generally aren't into the whole like death metal, mathcore, stuff. Post-hardcore maybe... like some underoath but You can party to hip/hop is generally a good reason to start off with



Girls who aren't into death metal aren't worth knowing or associating with.


Alone forever?


I know more girls into metal then I can count on my hands.
sawedust
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
December 10 2010 07:22 GMT
#30
Musical taste varies among people. There's a lot of things that factor in taste or distaste, such as geographical location, age, culture, etc.

With that being said, I don't mind listening to hip-hop/rap or death metal. They all have their uses for me. If there's a need to be pseudo-gangsta then rap it is, if I'm working out at the gym there's nothing better than metal to put me in the mood.

It's personal preference.
sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
December 10 2010 07:23 GMT
#31
People lost their balls and spine and thusly metal died.
Enlightened in an age of anti-intellectualism and quotidian repetitiveness of asinine assumptive thinking. Best lycan guide evar --> "Fixing solo queue all pick one game at a time." ~KwarK-
MahatmaSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States192 Posts
December 10 2010 07:23 GMT
#32
Some of the people here are confirming what my friend was saying -- he doesn't like metal because you can't sing or dance to it. Is that seriously a reason why people don't like it?

Team ZeNEX fighting!
Scrapiron
Profile Joined August 2010
74 Posts
December 10 2010 07:26 GMT
#33
On December 10 2010 15:40 MahatmaSC2 wrote:
Where's all the love for metal? I listen to different kinds, from death metal like Cannibal Corpse to thrash metal like Slayer or old Metallica. I also listen to some nu metal bands like KoRn or System of a Down. I love it & the guys that play metal have far more skill than those who just use computer generated noises and talking into a microphone. Why did it grow so much more popular than metal, not to mention every other kind of music?

Rap is fucking terrible and they probably have ghost writers as well as people making their beats for them (they are just faces for the music) and metal is the culmination of all that is right in the world.



IN FLAMES WE TRUST
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 07:28:05
December 10 2010 07:27 GMT
#34
Metal lost most of its ground (in America at least) when MTV canceled Headbanger's Ball. At the time the mainstream metal had gotten pretty stale, most new/innovative artists that were getting into metal then were too extreme for popular culture. Hip-hop, alternative, grunge, even industrial and electronica all had fresh, talented artists making more radio/mtv ready stuff than metal did in the mid 90s.
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OriginalTritone
Profile Joined November 2010
United States11 Posts
December 10 2010 07:27 GMT
#35
Tastes are tastes... But to be honest the reason Rap and Hip Hop are so huge is because of their mainstream presence. Record labels dictate what is popular because they control what everyone hears on radio, tv, movies... everywhere. That isn't to say that I think Hip Hop is bad as a genre, but I certainly wouldn't compare it with any great music in history. Hip Hop appeals to simple aesthetics; it's catchy, it's simple, it's predictable and for better or worse people like these things.

I don't share the OP's love for metal. Although there are some standout songs/artists, I really find it to be kind of a headache as a genre. I'm more a fan of progressive rock, blues, jazz, and even some classical music; but I've spent some time developing a taste for complex music--most people haven't.

Sadly, our culture has side-barred some really great music that I'll never even get a chance to hear. And I do think that the commercialization of hip-hop is a sad reflection of our society's susceptibility to mass advertising. Popular music of every genre has been about the same thing since the 40's "take your slice of the American Dream, buy expensive and pointless things, fall into archetypes, judge people, be like me."
That's what I just said.
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
December 10 2010 07:28 GMT
#36
On December 10 2010 16:20 Fontong wrote:
Yeah why don't we just listen to classical music instead? Much better imho.

I try not to judge music a whole lot, since no one is really qualified to do that no matter who they are. Judging the motives behind the creation of the music is ok with me though. Pop music is basically all motivated by profit, but we all knew that already anyway. That being said, comparing someone like [insertrandomhiphoprapperson] to the Romantic greats just makes me chuckle on the inside.

Edit:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 16:19 Sisko wrote:
For every good hip hop song there will be nine awful ones, and that's true of all music. If you don't listen to a lot of it, and be sure to avoid confusing popular with good, you surely won't like your brief encounters with it.
If there is one thing that people take from this thread let it be this.


Agreed completely.

To take this slightly further, it angers me to read some of these responses in this thread that allude to this idea that you shouldn't listen to X genre because the average person doesn't like it, or because you will get weird looks in public, or because you won't get girls, etc. Are these serious contentions? Keep in mind that the general population who are responsible for deciding what is "good" or not, are also statistically not very smart or innovative people, and the majority of them only listen to what they do because it's put on the radio for them.
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 10 2010 07:29 GMT
#37
On December 10 2010 16:20 Fontong wrote:
Yeah why don't we just listen to classical music instead? Much better imho.

yes yes this classical music is the best, sad that its declined from its prominent position D;
Writerptrk
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
December 10 2010 07:30 GMT
#38
On December 10 2010 16:23 MahatmaSC2 wrote:
Some of the people here are confirming what my friend was saying -- he doesn't like metal because you can't sing or dance to it. Is that seriously a reason why people don't like it?


You seriously read every response before your post and that's your takeaway from the thread? Your cherry picking to support your conceptions. Why limit yourself?
MahatmaSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States192 Posts
December 10 2010 07:34 GMT
#39
I can appreciate other music such as jazz, classical, even big band! For the life of me though, I can't seem to appreciate rap. None of it seems to take talent to me, although I know it does. Sort of. It just seems like the average guy can come up with a rap song, but it takes actual thought and innovation to come up with a good song in any other genre.
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Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
December 10 2010 07:35 GMT
#40
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason I don't typically listen to metal is because good metal bands are few and far between. Most could be summed up in two words: double kick (from the eyes of a man who plays drums). Metal bands just never seem to be very creative. I guess that's what happens when you enter a genre that is centered largely around a certain image rather than actual musicianship (same goes for rap/hip-hop).

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