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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
January 18 2011 22:10 GMT
#521
The only rap music I like is Die Antwoord, and even their stuff is really hit or miss.

Some fantastic songs, some horrid ones.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 22:26:41
January 18 2011 22:18 GMT
#522
Well. The big problem isn't why are people so much into rap and hip-pop. The main issue is why don't people listen to more than rap and hip-pop.
I'm proud of myself for listening and enjoying almost every style of music out there as long it has quality (i.e. it is GOOD music). People have to broad out their horizons. Don't listen only to what MTV spams.

I'll give you a tiny example:
Listen to this and if you by chance don't like or think it isn't quality music then I can say with all my heart that there is no hope for you.

aka Wardo
DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 23:26:56
January 18 2011 22:26 GMT
#523
I will just say that you must be living somewhere I don't wanna be. But maybe you're just one of those "music is dead" guys, who can't see the forest for the trees. I believe rock is still going strong, it's just different today. Arcade Fire and The National be ripping up dem indie bitches.

But sometimes I wish we had even a single rap performer in a radius of 50 kilometers from my city, but all we get is cover bands and prog-rock/metal.
I am a rock guy myself but variety never hurt anyone, and our "scene" looks more like a joke than anything else. Sure, we have a couple of techno enthusiasts, but the most they get is the rare club job and interludes between rock bands, when noone is paying attention anyway.

IMMEDIATE EDIT: Go listen to Jay-Z (just one song is enough). Then check out Jedi Mind Tricks and say that all hip-hop is the same. "Trail of Lies" in particular, because I like that song :D
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
January 18 2011 22:29 GMT
#524
On January 19 2011 07:06 slappy wrote:
i thought people didn't listen to rap anymore unless they were in high school?


Like how only old people listen to classical, texans listen to country, and kids only listen to pop, yeah, you really thought that one out didn't you.

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mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
January 19 2011 00:20 GMT
#525
On January 19 2011 07:18 EdSlyB wrote:
Well. The big problem isn't why are people so much into rap and hip-pop. The main issue is why don't people listen to more than rap and hip-pop.
I'm proud of myself for listening and enjoying almost every style of music out there as long it has quality (i.e. it is GOOD music). People have to broad out their horizons. Don't listen only to what MTV spams.

I'll give you a tiny example:
Listen to this and if you by chance don't like or think it isn't quality music then I can say with all my heart that there is no hope for you.

+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vwZAkfLKK8



I think you're gonna find that, unless someone's actually played in an orchestra, they fail to understand the amount of practice/effort that goes into concert performances. I did all-state, all-county from middle school through high school, on top of youth orchestra for 2 of those years. Every year, that meant beating out tons of my peers for the few spots in those bands/orchestras. Looking back on it now, I'm amazed at the amount of time I put into it - all for the love music.

Seriously the chances of a non-musician truly understanding what goes into it - I just don't think that kind of experience can be replaced.

With no power comes no responsibility?
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
January 19 2011 20:33 GMT
#526
Because the little boys and girls (especially the girls) actually BUY their music unlike angsty angry male teenagers with a need to rebel. Record companies see the numbers, they make more of it.

In all seriousness, I don't get where this impression comes from. Rap gets some air play, but it's usually the kind that people like to groove/dance to. And rarely ever make it that high on top music lists. And if people do like a rap song it's rarely for the rapping (has a catchy beat).
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
January 23 2011 17:31 GMT
#527
Like everything, music shifts in cycles and depending on your area, you're going to see lots of different popular music.

The rap that hits mainstream is generally heavy bass and beats, catchy hooks and that's it. They are merging more into a dance/rap/hip hop type of scenario, and getting those air play hits, club bangers, and such, that's what keeps getting made, much like what Ownos is saying. Record companies go with what works. If they can get away with teenybopper music, mixed with club anthems and the like, that's what they're going to shoot for.

Unlike stuff like this -
- where not a lot of people latch on. Some people want lyrics to consider a song good, some people are content with certain musical characteristics, and some just attach the artists themselves, regardless of what is produced.
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UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
January 23 2011 17:52 GMT
#528
I don't understand why people can't appreciate every genre. My favorite genre is alt and soft rock and my least favorite are metal/pop but i can still appreciate good music in any genre. Like take Kayne West for example, i don't like modern rap or overproduced pop really, but i can appreciate that his work can be genius at times even if he is a delusional wanker. And i dislike music like 50 cent, tinie tempah, usher and AKON but i could listen to all eyez on him all day. Its not genres IMHO its good artists that matter, geniuses like Elton john, Beethoven and Bob Dylan that make good music.
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T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
January 23 2011 18:14 GMT
#529
Lol. OP asks why do people only listen to hip hop NOW and lists current artists he listens to that debuted like 10 years ago. Living in a bubble I guess.
Empress
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada29 Posts
January 23 2011 18:30 GMT
#530
I listen to electro and rock but only listen to trance while playing sc2 XD
I mustn't run away
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
January 23 2011 18:50 GMT
#531
I really don't like either hiphop or rap. To me, both are almost always completely and utterly terrible. No need for people to be skilled at instruments, barely a need to have a good welltrained voice and often little need to be able to make good or deep lyrics.

This also applies to basically all pop music, so don't take it as utter hate against the genre/s, but I really dislike it for many reasons.

There are of course exceptions to the rule though.
Psychopomp
Profile Joined April 2010
United States237 Posts
January 23 2011 19:03 GMT
#532
I'm not exactly into rap, but having more mechanical skill doesn't make you a better artist or musician, and sure as hell doesn't make your art worth more. Art needs soul, not 500 APM.

To say that, for example, you like Led Zeppelin better than The Ramones because you like their style better is fine. To say that you like Led Zeppelin better than The Ramones because Jimmy Page had more technical skill is treating music like a sport.
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
January 23 2011 19:06 GMT
#533
You know the reason I love Mindless Self Indulgence is because they mix so many damn genres into their music and its fun and fast.

People who limit themselves to only one style of music aren't living life. Only music I can't stand is slow sad country/r&b stuff. Can't stand boring depressing stuff lol
uiCk
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1925 Posts
January 23 2011 19:13 GMT
#534
rap died in 01 with emergence of Dre's The Chronic 2001, creating pop rap or whatever you want to call it. imo
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
January 23 2011 19:15 GMT
#535

just...talking into a microphone


My god...

Yeah rap is just talking into a microphone. Exactly the same way that rock is just mashing some guitar strings, and art is just chucking paint at a canvas.
uiCk
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1925 Posts
January 23 2011 19:21 GMT
#536

(song really starts at 33sec)
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Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
January 23 2011 19:23 GMT
#537
Lyrics don't matter to me in music.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
January 23 2011 19:28 GMT
#538
On January 24 2011 03:14 T0fuuu wrote:
Lol. OP asks why do people only listen to hip hop NOW and lists current artists he listens to that debuted like 10 years ago. Living in a bubble I guess.

This is so true it's sad for so many people. If you want to listen to metal, at least support the newer bands. If you don't, you are contributing more to the death of the genre than people who simply don't do the stuff.

I can't count the times I've found some awesome up-and-coming band and showed it to my friends, only to get the response: "Nah, I don't like newer rock.". It is so frustrating, because they never buy a record or goes to a concert except for a 1-in-3-years big classic rock concert. -.-
annYeong(o11)
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada784 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 19:39:09
January 23 2011 19:29 GMT
#539
The problem with inter-genre conflicts is the lack of subtext, you can find something right and something wrong in anything, all that matters is how you, yourself personally view it.

And why does everyone care what everyone else listens to? Just enjoy your genre(s) of choice and let others enjoy their's. There isn't a right answer so they aren't "wrong" and you're not "right".



I'm tell you about one my my new favourite groups that took awhile to win me over, but I'm glad that they did: Das Racist. On the surface, it sounds exactly the same as a lot of rap (for better or for worse, you're call) but the lyricism, the tongue in cheek references to pop culture, and other rap artists. I would reccommend them if you've lost hope in hip hop.

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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
January 23 2011 19:30 GMT
#540
On January 19 2011 07:18 EdSlyB wrote:
Well. The big problem isn't why are people so much into rap and hip-pop. The main issue is why don't people listen to more than rap and hip-pop.
I'm proud of myself for listening and enjoying almost every style of music out there as long it has quality (i.e. it is GOOD music). People have to broad out their horizons. Don't listen only to what MTV spams.

I'll give you a tiny example:
Listen to this and if you by chance don't like or think it isn't quality music then I can say with all my heart that there is no hope for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vwZAkfLKK8


i personally think its a bit strange to think people can be judged just by liking or disliking this song of yours... but i kind of agree that if you cannot realise there is quality in this music and cannot imagine people enjoying this, are probably extremely ignorant.

And btw about the song itself, i think its pretty good and it's funny to see all the really different kinds of ppl in the orchestra :p
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